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RE: Is BDSM the Nerds and Geeks Club? - 12/27/2009 11:18:38 PM

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aaawww Nerds and geeks can be lovable too. Seriously, I hope bdsm attracts some of them. I love a Man Who has brains and knows how to use them. As for me, I like things like psychology, animal communication and comparative religion. I don't know what that makes me.....strange maybe?

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RE: Is BDSM the Nerds and Geeks Club? - 12/28/2009 1:08:59 AM

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So anyway, is there a disproportionate number of smart mcsmarts around here (let's be honest, and stroke more fun things than egos)?

As far as I can tell, there is a fair distribution here, with some smart folks and some dimwits.

I will refrain from the usual, lengthy rant on your commentary about spelling. It does illustrate that a smart person need not be well reflected about the practical difficulties faced by dyslexic or non-native posters. The rest is in the archives, should you care to read it. It might ameliorate the impression to do so.

Most of the time, I'm classified as one of the reasonably smart folks ...

... the rest of the time I am just classifiable.

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RE: Is BDSM the Nerds and Geeks Club? - 12/28/2009 1:35:45 AM

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Is BDSM the Nerds and Geeks Club?

some might want this to be so, so we look special and different.
But no..we are not. We are a nice mixture of all kind of people.

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RE: Is BDSM the Nerds and Geeks Club? - 12/28/2009 3:43:26 AM

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A lot of us are into comics, sci fi, and Renaissance fairs. That is pretty geeky.

a lot of us are into ass fucking and that's pretty greeky too

You're growing on me.

As for the OP, I think it's a mistake to equate "nerd" and "geek" with intelligence. Although those terms are frequently used to describe people who've developed some specialized knowledge of an unusual subject. The unusual subject matter is commonly viewed as not easily accessible, either because it's intellectually challenging or because it carries no interest to most people. One needn't be a genius to memorize a bunch of sports stats, or to know a lot about entomology. In the area of bdsm, many practitioners will have given a great deal of thought to the precise nature of their desired dynamic, and that level of detail may come across as more intelligent than the average vanilla couple describing their relationship. It doesn't make the bdsm person more intelligent, just more knowledgeable in one particular area.

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RE: Is BDSM the Nerds and Geeks Club? - 12/28/2009 6:47:32 AM

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I definitely wouldn't say BDSM types have a higher average IQ, but it does seem to me, purely based on personal experience and no attempt to quantify, that quite a few people round here either don't particularly like hanging out in mainstream society or have various social issues that mean they can't hang out in mainstream society. And if you aren't going to the parties with the cool kids, you're more likely to be sitting around playing WoW and reading a book. Or maybe I only talk to geeks like me.

I'm in the chess club and I'm not ashamed of it!

Same here! Gotta love it!

I actually went to a lot of parties when I was younger (late teens-mid 20s) but they were mostly raves and breakcore shows and goth clubs and stuff. I was very popular *in that circle* but I was never a Lincoln Park Trixie.

Tried dating a couple of the Chads though. Not a good fit.

Anyway my best friend and I would always joke whenever we went to 'normal' house parties we would always sit together in a small room or in a corner (we called it the 'reject table' like we called our table in HS) and within an hour we'd have a crowd around us.

The right type of "social reject" tends to be a trendsetting individualist. Since the 50's, the stuff the "weirdos" did was seen on fashion models within a year and middle America within five years. But they were still laughed at for being weirdos when they first did it.

At least that's what I've seen. I'm old and boring now though, I really need to get out more but it's hard to get in the swing of things after moving to a new country.

But I can play WoW all day *and then* dance all night.

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RE: Is BDSM the Nerds and Geeks Club? - 12/28/2009 10:05:18 PM

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Let me define a geek for you...

"And it shall come to pass that what men made shall be shattered, and the Shadow shall lie across the pattern of the Age, and the Dark One shall once more lay his hand upon the world of man. Women shall weep and men quail as the nations of the earth are rent like rotting cloth. Neither shall anything stand, nor abide. Yet one shall be born to face the shadow. Born as he was born before and shall be born again, time without end. The Dragon shall be reborn, and there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth at his rebirth. In sackcloth and ashes shall he clothe the people, and like the unfettered dawn he shall blind us and burn us, yet his blood shall give us the Light. Let tears flow, O ye people of the world. Weep for your salvation."

That's from memory, one of many passages from a variety of books, games, movies, music, etc...

If you know which book in the series it is from, then you're a certifiable nerd.

Just picking the name of the series it's from only qualifies you as a geek.

Spotting the errors in the passage marks you as irredeemable.

Opening a thread for geek games, anyone?

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RE: Is BDSM the Nerds and Geeks Club? - 12/28/2009 10:27:04 PM

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Let me define a geek for you...

There's geeky and there's geeky. If I manage to find the time and enough space that I won't fry all the stuff in my house that has electrical circuits, I plan on building a tesla coil. I could easily define a "geek spectrum" ranging from "what's a tesla coil!?" to "that's senseless" to "wow, cool!". It takes all kinds to make a world.

(Of course, I'm an outlying statistic. I read that book recently since the new one just came out so I can identify your quote. C'est la vie.)

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RE: Is BDSM the Nerds and Geeks Club? - 12/29/2009 3:58:16 PM

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It has been my experience, that those who do BDSM, often are above average intelligence and maturity. Its not to say there's a few screwballs in the mix. I've met medical doctors, engineers, scientists, liberians, law enforcement, and such. These people have to be educated in their professions. To become that educated, does mean a far bit 'geekie-ness'. Not everyone will ever possess the writing skills of The Bard (know who that is without looking it up?), but then, not every geek knows how fast the Enterprise from the newest Trek movie can go. But, lets just remeber, that Vulcans are wimper then Narn and Wookies!

To understand the concepts in BDSM, is not the sort of stuff that is taught to kids in school. Just talking sex education in some schools is a challenge. So, something like BDSM is taboo. So, the inquziative(spelling?) want to know why they think as a Dom or sub, and so, have to educate themselves on the subject(s). Being educated, as Einstein once said, is not knowing everything, BUT, knowing how to find that information out!

However, its not to say, every geek, nerd, and socially inept person, does BDSM. But I do see many very educated and studied individuals that do BDSM.

Yes, my spelling sucks. My geekness is not in english literature, its in financial and business theory. But, I am a geek gamer. And for a time, was playing WoW in a Fem Dom guild.

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RE: Is BDSM the Nerds and Geeks Club? - 12/29/2009 4:44:33 PM

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I'm reminded of the theater crowd in high school many years ago...a bunch of kinksters, and a bit geeky/nerdy too, but nevertheless the most fun bunch I ever had the pleasure of hanging out with!

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RE: Is BDSM the Nerds and Geeks Club? - 12/29/2009 5:37:17 PM

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I tend to keep company with nerdy, geeky, or freaky people, so my stats are likely skewed.

Ditto! *S*

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RE: Is BDSM the Nerds and Geeks Club? - 12/29/2009 5:59:34 PM

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I do have the parts for a tesla coil, and know how to build one. A sulphur plasma light source, superradiant nitrogen pumped dye laser or the like would be higher on my list, though. In any case, my list of hobbies can accomodate most of the various definitions of "geek." I was really just noting that most geeks I know carry around loads of useless trivia, quotes and so forth.

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RE: Is BDSM the Nerds and Geeks Club? - 12/29/2009 6:44:18 PM

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ORIGINAL: InvisibleBlack
There's geeky and there's geeky. If I manage to find the time and enough space that I won't fry all the stuff in my house that has electrical circuits, I plan on building a tesla coil...

Did you see the Australian guy using a huge Tesla coil for his Christmas light decoration? 500,000 volts of glorious geeky goodness. (Pic at http://www.telegraph.co.uk/topics/christmas/6769638/The-best-worst-weirdest-and-tallest-Christmas-trees-in-the-world.html?image=10)

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RE: Is BDSM the Nerds and Geeks Club? - 12/29/2009 6:49:26 PM

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Baby, there ain't nuthin' like geek love!!!

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RE: Is BDSM the Nerds and Geeks Club? - 12/29/2009 8:13:11 PM

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There's geeky and there's geeky. If I manage to find the time and enough space that I won't fry all the stuff in my house that has electrical circuits, I plan on building a tesla coil...

Did you see the Australian guy using a huge Tesla coil for his Christmas light decoration? 500,000 volts of glorious geeky goodness.

That's pretty impressive. I recall there was a guy in Australia a couple of years ago (might be the same guy!) who built one on top of his car and was driving it around.

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RE: Is BDSM the Nerds and Geeks Club? - 12/30/2009 2:36:39 AM

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ORIGINAL: HisSweetElysium

I'm cross posting this from another website where I got flamed for my response on the issue, and am curious about others responses. The OP's premise was "I think that BDSM attracts the advanced intellectuals"

My response is sure, there are smart people into BDSM, but there are also borderline mentally challenged folks too, as evidenced by the incoherent writing, lack of common courtesy and general lack of effort exemplified by profiles full of spelling and grammatical mistakes. That is not to say that spelling or grammar make someone intelligent (though I have my own thoughts on that) but the lack of effort on a profile to me, in this day and age where if you are online, it's pretty safe to assume you have access to spell check, is a sign of intellectual laziness.

So anyway, is there a disproportionate number of smart mcsmarts around here (let's be honest, and stroke more fun things than egos)?

People play to their strengths.
If you are well educated, and/or confident expressing yourself, and/or more clear about your emotional make up, you are more likely to post on a board like this. Add to this the factor of confidence with IT and using these boards, then the dicsussion will tend more to the nerdy at times.

Another reason BDSM appears to attract intellectuals is that more educated/intellignet peple tend to have social situations that provide more free time and may also have the resources to access online bulletins more easily. Consequently we see more of such people.
My view is that the tendency towards BDSM is far more widespread accross society but that its expression is dependent on things like self awareness, access to groups (including on line) and access to resources (including time) to indulge the interest.

This the apparent stats are distorted; as they are for all bulletin boards or indeed meetings. If you attend a group or meeting on any issue, most people are inclined to listen rather than contribute.
Finally, poor spelling or even poor grammar is not directly a sign of poor intelligence. Most of my errors are due to laziness and impatience; trying to type as i think.

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RE: Is BDSM the Nerds and Geeks Club? - 12/30/2009 3:13:19 PM

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I think BDSM attracts geeks. But geeks aren't necessarily uber-intellectuals. They just get obsessed about certain topics. They dedicate their lives to one specific niche of the counter culture and run with it. Like trekkers who speak Klingon and dress in full regalia for their wedding. There might be some "cool" BDSMers out there but I'm willing to bet that deep down they are just geeks in leather ;-). I think fetishism and geekism are very much linked.

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RE: Is BDSM the Nerds and Geeks Club? - 12/30/2009 3:34:28 PM

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I wrote a paper on Tesla for my final in basic audio systems. Marconi got credit for inventing the radio but only by violating a number of Tesla's patents. I also used to work here. Old guys would bring motors and what not up to the test bench while I was working and say "Is there any one who can test this for me?" And I would say "yes" and they would say "can you go get him for me?" and I would say "He is me." Fun times.

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ORIGINAL: Drifa

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ORIGINAL: InvisibleBlack
There's geeky and there's geeky. If I manage to find the time and enough space that I won't fry all the stuff in my house that has electrical circuits, I plan on building a tesla coil...

Did you see the Australian guy using a huge Tesla coil for his Christmas light decoration? 500,000 volts of glorious geeky goodness.

That's pretty impressive. I recall there was a guy in Australia a couple of years ago (might be the same guy!) who built one on top of his car and was driving it around.

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RE: Is BDSM the Nerds and Geeks Club? - 12/30/2009 4:19:45 PM

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To the OP ... No I don't think BDSM attracts more intelligent people, I think the subset of people with home internet access to get into online BDSM is correlated with socioeconomic status and higher levels of educational attainment.

If you want to know the truth I think in general I think "dominants" are just people of average temperament with a history of failed relationships with normal people or are using submissives to some advantage monetary or otherwise. Submissives on the other hand are generally sex (male) or love (women) addicts who have been weakened by their addictions to a point of elevating the existential status of those with the perceived ability to quench their addiction. So basically those who are weakened by addiction are taken advantage of by people with normal temperaments but ulterior motives = BDSM.

In my own experience I have come to the conclusion that the dominant female image sells but is just a male fantasy (or has been culturally programmed). For F/m D/s what this means is that collectively we are weaker as the thriving BDSM community reflects more sex addiction weakened men than empowered women. JMHO of course and I would love to proven wrong. It hasn't happened yet though.

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RE: Is BDSM the Nerds and Geeks Club? - 12/30/2009 4:28:14 PM

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Submissives on the other hand are generally sex (male) or love (women) addicts who have been weakened by their addictions to a point of elevating the existential status of those with the perceived ability to quench their addiction.

So how do you explain lesbians who practice TPE? Or D/s in which there is neither sex nor love?

There's a huge range of people that fall under the very broad rubric that is BDSM. I believe your vision is too narrow.

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RE: Is BDSM the Nerds and Geeks Club? - 12/30/2009 6:24:40 PM

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I would like to think that embracing the lifestyle involves a higher level of self-awareness that may come through intellect and life experience... but it also lead to dorks with no social skills prey on the naive

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