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bibiswitch -> male subs/slaves (12/28/2009 6:17:33 AM)

hello

I often read about male subs/slaves that get a hardon when a woman humiliates them, insults them, is aggressive to them, etc

does this hardon means that you truly enjoy this? or it is just a sign of your body that tells you 'you are attacked, you must defend and fight'? it is a subconscious aggression that is expressed through erection?

maybe this hardon is because you normally supress your sexual insticts against normal women and you just need a reason to express your sexuality? and your humiliation from a woman simply gives a reason to your mind (subconsciously) that it is now ok to... ahm... rape her? since she attacks you, you have a valid reason to rape her

what do you think about that?

I mean, ok, one could accept that you enjoy serving your love object, a woman (all vanilla people do it)
one could also accept to sacrifice something from yourself to feel yourself how much you like that woman (vanilla people do it too)

but having a hardon by being humiliated is too contradicting to be explained by simply 'a pleasant stimulation causes erection'

for women who enjoy humiliation, it is more understandable, since she needs to feel dirty, surrendered, etc in order to put aside her sexual inhibitions and her pussy gets wet because her mind thinks that now that her master knows she is a slut, she will fuck her, etc etc

but a hardon of a male is not the same as a pussy's wetting, the one is a call for action while the other is surrendering

or you don't have a hardon?

what do you really think and feel at that moment?

I am interested in male sub/slave experience, since it is clear the woman's perspective for me



Lockit -> RE: male subs/slaves (12/28/2009 7:59:34 AM)

Your profile is hidden and that is okay... but when you add that your posts are filled with misconceptions and are almost accusing people of being unhealthy minded to do what they do... STOP SIGN.

We have answered your questions and explained things, but you have certain things stuck in your head and will not consider what we say. So what are you actually getting from this? Are in you having a personal struggle? Coming to inflame? Doing research?

You ask a lot of questions... and someone confused or new asking things is good! But in your situation... you leave so much room to question your motives. So answer a few questions yourself. Why are you here? What do you want? What's with all the questions and basic accusations/implications?



breatheasone -> RE: male subs/slaves (12/28/2009 8:02:23 AM)

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but a hardon of a male is not the same as a pussy's wetting, the one is a call for action while the other is surrendering

Since when is a wet pussy not a call for action?[8|]



Lockit -> RE: male subs/slaves (12/28/2009 8:08:18 AM)

The more I re-read what you posted bibiswitch... I actually start becoming angry and that is a rare thing for me to feel here.

There is no excuse or justification of rape... if you think that a dominant woman is attacking and that justifies rape... you are sick! No... you do not understand women... it is not clear to you!

For me at least... you have some explaining to do or I am putting you in a catagory real fast.



CarrieO -> RE: male subs/slaves (12/28/2009 8:10:51 AM)

I'm with Lockit on this one.  OP, ever since THIS thread, I've had a hard time taking you serious.  You have no profile, so to speak, and your posts come across as crass and inflammatory. 

My question to you is why? 



HandSolo -> RE: male subs/slaves (12/28/2009 8:12:44 AM)

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ORIGINAL: bibiswitch


but having a hardon by being humiliated is too contradicting to be explained by simply 'a pleasant stimulation causes erection'

for women who enjoy humiliation, it is more understandable, since she needs to feel dirty, surrendered, etc in order to put aside her sexual inhibitions and her pussy gets wet because her mind thinks that now that her master knows she is a slut, she will fuck her, etc etc

but a hardon of a male is not the same as a pussy's wetting, the one is a call for action while the other is surrendering




There is no point in asking a  question if you already have decided on an answer. This is how bad research and dogmatic rifts are developed and maintained.



WyldHrt -> RE: male subs/slaves (12/28/2009 8:50:25 AM)

quote:

I am interested in male sub/slave experience, since it is clear the woman's perspective for me
[8|] I doubt it.



Underumam -> RE: male subs/slaves (12/28/2009 8:54:18 AM)

I get hard sometimes just by undressing in front of Her. To even insinuate that this means I'm primed to commit such a heinous act as rape is disgusting!

WHO THE FUCK DO YOU THINK YOU ARE OP?



VampiresLair -> RE: male subs/slaves (12/28/2009 9:22:31 AM)

I haven't groaned this much in a long time.  I just love, love, love threads like this.

I'll keep it simple, just like I did on the last stupid post I read from the OP:


[image]http://mimg.ugo.com/200910/11727/facepalm.jpg[/image]

DVsFox



servilething -> RE: male subs/slaves (12/28/2009 10:10:51 AM)

I get very aroused sexually in the sense I have a mental state that is pure sex, but without getting hard. I think it has to do with submission being more submissive the less selfish it is, and having an erection and wanting to cum would be selfish, and about me, while remaining passive is about serving them. I also think erections are highly independent of anyone and just happen whenever they want to, for reasons of their own, or none at all. In submission I would be hard if it was required but otherwise soft. If I was to be dominant I would probably be a walking hard-on. It may be that submission suits me because it suppresses my sexual desires as they would normally be, and instead puts me in a state of mind that allows me strong erotic feelings focused on someone else, and what turns them on. It could be a matter of vicarious sexual satisfaction.I think it is, because some of the best and most intense orgasms I have had weren't mine, but were from someone else and resonated through me.



Lucylastic -> RE: male subs/slaves (12/28/2009 10:27:25 AM)

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ORIGINAL: bibiswitch

hello

I often read about male subs/slaves that get a hardon when a woman humiliates them, insults them, is aggressive to them, etc
Some men can get a hard on when the wind blows in the right direction. Especially if the wind blows around a female
does this hardon means that you truly enjoy this?
If he didnt like it, he wouldnt want to be around it for long
or it is just a sign of your body that tells you 'you are attacked, you must defend and fight'? Ive never seen a dick get into a fighting stance, Ive never seen an erection want to fight... they are kinda doomed ...., willy whacking aside, what good is an erection in a fight??? apart from as a target?
it is a subconscious aggression that is expressed through erection?
maybe this hardon is because you normally supress your sexual insticts against normal women and you just need a reason to express your sexuality? why would he supress his normal sexual instincts?
and your humiliation from a woman simply gives a reason to your mind (subconsciously) that it is now ok to... ahm... rape her? since she attacks you, you have a valid reason to rape her.
My gawd you have never had a male submissive have you. I doubt you have ever even spoken to one in depth

what do you think about that? Mod 11 will castigate me long before you ever get to find out what I think about that

I mean, ok, one could accept that you enjoy serving your love object, a woman (all vanilla people do it)
one could also accept to sacrifice something from yourself to feel yourself how much you like that woman (vanilla people do it too) so submissive men are vanilla??

but having a hardon by being humiliated is too contradicting to be explained by simply 'a pleasant stimulation causes erection'

for women who enjoy humiliation, it is more understandable(why),
since she needs to feel dirty, surrendered, etc in order to put aside her sexual inhibitions (says who)
and her pussy gets wet because her mind thinks that now that her master knows she is a slut, she will fuck her, etc etc ( My pussy gets wet for a whole lot of different reasons than that)

but a hardon of a male is not the same as a pussy's wetting, the one is a call for action while the other is surrendering
It is? Im surrendering??? every time I get wet???OMG noooo That is the funniest bunch of BS I have ever heard

or you don't have a hardon?
what do you really think and feel at that moment?

I am interested in male sub/slave experience, since it is clear the woman's perspective for me
I dont think you are thinking of anyones perspective but your own



bibiswitch -> RE: male subs/slaves (12/28/2009 11:37:50 AM)

it is sad and hilarious that some get mad when someone asks questions...

simply DON'T ANSWER

if someone is offended by the word rape (wtf, it is a just word, stop whinning), you may use the word 'fuck'? how about that? , but, hey, your trauma, your sickness or fears or even your fantasies you are ashamed of (hehe) is not my fault!

really some people need to go to elementary school to learn to comprehend...

I reveal my information to those I choose, what is your problem? is it mandatory to have a profil available to "you"? really, ignore me and... get a life!

HandSolo, I doubt you have the answer to the paradox of masochism that occupies so many scientists... and I didn't gave an answer, it has a question mark, I just mentioned some scientific thoughts about this, if you want to blame someone, just blame some scientists then

really, don't answer with stupid posts, if you don't like this subject, IGNORE IT, you have too much free time, right? LOL

Lucylastic you are really that dumb? I only read your 'answer' "so submissive men are vanilla??" how the fuck did you come up with that? LOL. I couldn't waste any more second to read your rest stupidities *giggles*

I ask men's opinions, women come up, will that idiocy end? I don't want to read about opinions, I want to read about experiences

from psychanalytic perspective, there is an extensive scientific debate, with incestuous love, anger, suicide, narcissism, and too many words that you don't want to read? go get your whippings and leave this thread for those that want to express their true inner self, I am interested to those males who have true conscience about their submissiveness



Lockit -> RE: male subs/slaves (12/28/2009 11:40:04 AM)

ROFL... yeah right buddy! You answered all the questions I had... filed in correct catagory.



slavekal -> RE: male subs/slaves (12/28/2009 11:42:24 AM)

I get hard because it turns me on to be humiliated by a dominant woman.  It's no more complicated than that.



HandSolo -> RE: male subs/slaves (12/28/2009 11:42:45 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: bibiswitch


HandSolo, I doubt you have the answer to the paradox of masochism that occupies so many scientists... and I didn't gave an answer, it has a question mark, I just mentioned some scientific thoughts about this, if you want to blame someone, just blame some scientists then

really, don't answer with stupid posts, if you don't like this subject, IGNORE IT, you have too much free time, right? LOL


Good. Remain ignorant. Not my problem. By the way, I know science. My career is in science. Making unsupported assertions that fit a pre-determined conclusion is not science.



bibiswitch -> RE: male subs/slaves (12/28/2009 11:48:03 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: servilething

I get very aroused sexually in the sense I have a mental state that is pure sex, but without getting hard. I think it has to do with submission being more submissive the less selfish it is, and having an erection and wanting to cum would be selfish, and about me, while remaining passive is about serving them. I also think erections are highly independent of anyone and just happen whenever they want to, for reasons of their own, or none at all. In submission I would be hard if it was required but otherwise soft. If I was to be dominant I would probably be a walking hard-on. It may be that submission suits me because it suppresses my sexual desires as they would normally be, and instead puts me in a state of mind that allows me strong erotic feelings focused on someone else, and what turns them on. It could be a matter of vicarious sexual satisfaction.I think it is, because some of the best and most intense orgasms I have had weren't mine, but were from someone else and resonated through me.



damn, among silly posts, I missed your valuable post!

you consider yourself too selfish in real life, outside bedroom? is this what others believe about you, or it is just your opinion about yourself?
do you think that you would harm a woman with your selfishness?

can you explain, you say erections happen whenever they want to, but next you say that you would be hard if required, what you mean by that? you can have an erection on demand? or you suppress your erection and let it loose when required?

why do you need submissiveness to suppress your sexual desires? maybe you feel they could be uncontrollable? and lead to something bad?

the way you experienced your orgasm, reminds me transference

I really appreciate your response, it gives me another point of view to understand submissiveness



mnottertail -> RE: male subs/slaves (12/28/2009 11:49:45 AM)

Bibi,

If you are going to attempt the fraud of appearing as intelligent, learn to fuckin' spell, to take someone to task one should be perfectly punctilious in one's spelling and phrasing.

And no one gives the glimmer of a fuck about what sort of answers you want or are acceptable to you on this thread, regardless of your starting it, or enjoining it. You are not the threadmaster, you are just another nobody in a vast nothingness. Learn to appreciate the perspective.

Ron



bibiswitch -> RE: male subs/slaves (12/28/2009 11:50:10 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: slavekal


to me is complicated, isn't it paradoxical to you? I mean, it is ok to get hard from the admiration of a dominant woman, from the caresses of a dominant woman, etc, but from... humiliation? isn't it strange? come on!




bibiswitch -> RE: male subs/slaves (12/28/2009 11:52:43 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: HandSolo

quote:

ORIGINAL: bibiswitch


HandSolo, I doubt you have the answer to the paradox of masochism that occupies so many scientists... and I didn't gave an answer, it has a question mark, I just mentioned some scientific thoughts about this, if you want to blame someone, just blame some scientists then

really, don't answer with stupid posts, if you don't like this subject, IGNORE IT, you have too much free time, right? LOL


Good. Remain ignorant. Not my problem. By the way, I know science. My career is in science. Making unsupported assertions that fit a pre-determined conclusion is not science.




HandSolo, you *know* science? if that is not ignorant, it is arrogant for sure! anyway, can you contribute to the topic? I told you there is no pre-determined conclusion, what you want more? just describe your feelings, your thoughts



bibiswitch -> RE: male subs/slaves (12/28/2009 11:59:35 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: mnottertail

Bibi,

If you are going to attempt the fraud of appearing as intelligent, learn to fuckin' spell, to take someone to task one should be perfectly punctilious in one's spelling and phrasing.

And no one gives the glimmer of a fuck about what sort of answers you want or are acceptable to you on this thread, regardless of your starting it, or enjoining it. You are not the threadmaster, you are just another nobody in a vast nothingness. Learn to appreciate the perspective.

Ron


wtf? you must be really lowlife to feel threatened by the intelligence from a forum post



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