xssve -> RE: Misogyny and BDSM (12/31/2009 11:03:07 AM)
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ORIGINAL: xssve If you're trying to impress me with rationalizations, ad hominem is a poor beginning. Relax. I kind of like you. I just call 'em as I see 'em. And my scrip isn't up to date. quote:
I'm simply suggesting you bear in mind the difference between fact and fiction - I've heard enough Goreans espousing the Gorean equivalent of Scientology to know it exists - if it suits you and you're having fun, knock yourself out, but when it comes to proselytizing, I'm afraid you're pissing up a rope. I'm not proselytizing. I'm attempting to address some notions that are frequently projected onto people on this board who identify as Gorean, seeing as the Gorean subculture on this board has generally moved past most of the notions which tend to be projected onto them. Those who haven't, have generally gotten off the train at an earlier stop, and I won't pretend I have any idea what they're into or up to. quote:
Just trying to save you some time, as a courtesy. Noted and appreciated. If we can agree that I couldn't care less about conversions, but do care about some modicum of accuracy with regard to the present subculture here (it's a moving target, to its credit), then we can both save time. I won't pretend not to like it, nor pretend to lack serious issues with it of my own. But more Goreans isn't a goal of mine nowadays. An accurate impression helps build bridges, which helps bring in new ideas, which helps update beliefs and converge on something better. Bringing in new people is superfluous; it's ideas and work that's needed now. Health, al-Aswad. P.S.: We've never had a shortage of kooks in the kitchen, but the turnover of those is pretty high. As an algorithmic information parsing technique, I tend to compare arguments, which are invariably based on some sort of paradigm model/construct, to the the most up to date objective consensus paradigm construct for symmetry, objective defined as the most robust consensus model w/regards to the empirical data. If I perceive substantial asymmetry, I will tend to be suspicious of the paradigm model's predictive value, although often such models create distortions that appear to confirm them as predictive as the paradigm is internalized - self fulfilling prophecies, like Christians and Armegeddon. Typically however, this effect has some natural limitation it will eventually be unable to overcome. Let us hope that this is so w/regard to the Armageddon model - the natural limit there is we all call bullshit and find something more fun to do. It helps if you have an objective paradigm to work from, and it also helps you to make assessments regarding what is baby and what is bathwater.
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