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cloudboy -> Karl Rove and the Sanctity of Marriage (12/30/2009 7:28:51 AM)


Rove: Champion of "traditional" divorce

The same-sex marriage opponent takes advantage of the profoundly untraditional "no-fault" law to split from wife
Glenn Greenwald

Dec. 29, 2009 |

(updated below)

Karl Rove is an outspoken opponent of same-sex marriage, citing "5,000 years of understanding the institution of marriage" as his justification. He also famously engineered multiple referenda to incorporate a ban on same-sex marriage into various states' constitutions in 2004 in order to ensure that so-called ""Christian conservatives" and "value voters" who believe in "traditional marriage laws" would turn out and help re-elect George W. Bush. Yet, like so many of his like-minded pious comrades, Rove seems far better at preaching the virtues of "traditional marriage" to others and exploiting them for political gain than he does adhering to those principles in his own life:

Karl Rove granted divorce in Texas

Karl Rove, former senior adviser to President George W. Bush, has been granted a divorce in Texas after 24 years of marriage, a family spokesperson said. Dana Perino, the spokesperson, said: “Karl Rove and his wife, Darby, were granted a divorce last week. The couple came to the decision mutually and amicably, and they maintain a close relationship and a strong friendship" . . . A family friend told POLITICO: "After 24 years of marriage, many of which were spent under incredible stress and strain during the White House years, the Roves came to a mutual decision that they would end the marriage."

Rove obtained his divorce under Texas' "no-fault" divorce law, one of the most permissive in the nation. That law basically allows any married couple to simply end their marriage because they feel like it. Texas, needless to say, is one of the states which has constitutionally barred same-sex marriages, and has a Governor who explicitly cites Christian dogma as the reason to support that provision, yet the overwhelming majority of Texan citizens make sure that there's nothing in the law making their own marriages binding or permanent -- i.e., traditional. They're willing to limit other people's marriage choices on moral grounds, but not their own, and thus have a law that lets them divorce whenever the mood strikes. That's the very permissive, untraditional and un-Christian law that Rove just exploited in order to obtain his divorce.

There's debate and dispute among various Christian theologians and sects over whether divorce and re-marriage are permissible and, if so, under what circumstances. But what is clear is that the attribute of permanence is every bit as much of a part of "traditional marriage" as the need for a man and a women -- hence, the vow before God of "till death do us part" and "that which God has brought together, let no man put asunder." The concept of "no-fault" divorce is certainly repugnant to most Christian and traditional understandings of marriage. Yet those like Rove who have devoted endless efforts to barring gay citizens from marrying on the ground that our laws must enshrine Christian concepts of "traditional marriage" continuously take advantage of laws that enable them to end their own marriages on a whim, and even enter new marriages with their so-called "second, third and fourth wives," which only seems to intensify their "traditional marriage" preaching.

I've long thought that the solution to the cheap, cost-free moralizing that leads very upstanding people like Karl Rove to want to ban same-sex marriages (which they don't want to enter into themselves, and thus cost them nothing) is to have those same "principles" apply consistently to all marriage laws. If Karl Rove, Newt Gingrich, Rush Limbaugh and their friends and followers actually were required by law to stay married to their wives -- the way that "traditional marriage" was generally supposed to work -- the movement to have our secular laws conform to "traditional marriage" principles would almost certainly die a quick, quiet and well-deserved death.

UPDATE: Actually, this is Rove's second divorce. His first wife was "Valerie Wainright, a wealthy Houston woman from the Bush social circle, but the marriage could not withstand his consuming preoccupation with politics." They divorced after three years of marriage. So the one that was just terminated was Rove's second "traditional marriage" to end without death doing them part. His next traditional marriage will be to his third wife.

Did I mention that Rove believes it's vital that our secular laws enforce precepts of "traditional marriages" and bar everything else?

-- Glenn Greenwald





rulemylife -> RE: Karl Rove and the Sanctity of Marriage (12/30/2009 7:57:06 AM)

Still many more "family values" hypocrites out there.


FOXNews.com - Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich Acknowledges ...


Gingrich, who frequently campaigned on family values issues, divorced his second wife, Marianne, in 2000 after his attorneys acknowledged Gingrich's relationship with his current wife, Callista Bisek, a former congressional aide more than 20 years younger than he is.

His first marriage, to his former high school geometry teacher, Jackie Battley, ended in divorce in 1981. Although Gingrich has said he doesn't remember it, Battley has said Gingrich discussed divorce terms with her while she was recuperating in the hospital from cancer surgery.


Under God: Gingrich's Move to the (Religious) Right


Gingrich's latest venture into the conservative evangelical world came when he spoke/preached at Lou Engle's "Rediscovering God in America" conference last Friday, hosted by Rock Church in Virginia Beach and broadcast on GodTV. "The first thing we need in America is spiritual," Gingrich told the congregation. "The first job we have as Americans is to reach out to everybody in the country who is not yet saved, and to help them understand the spiritual basis of a creator-endowed society."




Wolf2Bear -> RE: Karl Rove and the Sanctity of Marriage (12/30/2009 7:57:16 AM)

Wow....it is true that we are all equal yet some are more equal than others.




rulemylife -> RE: Karl Rove and the Sanctity of Marriage (12/30/2009 8:02:15 AM)

Sen. John Ensign: The GOP's Latest Family Values Hypocrite



With the news that Republican Sen. John Ensign has admitted that he had an extramarital affair with one of his campaign staffers, it is time to add his name to list of Republicans who don’t practice what they preach in terms of family values.


.............The problem, politically speaking, isn’t the affair. It is the hypocrisy of supposedly being concerned about morals and family values while having an affair. Ensign now joins a long list of so called values Republicans that includes Sen. David Vitter, Larry Craig, and former Speaker of the House Newt Gingrich who have all had sex scandals. Sex scandals are not a good thing for a political party that prides itself on being a defender of the American family.




LadyEllen -> RE: Karl Rove and the Sanctity of Marriage (12/30/2009 8:45:05 AM)

Whats the problem? I shouldnt wonder that God told them personally it was OK, so the complaint seems to be that God doesnt talk to some people and thats hardly any wonder considering how ungodly they are.

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rockspider -> RE: Karl Rove and the Sanctity of Marriage (12/30/2009 5:08:04 PM)

After a lifelong series of observartions i can firmly state: The worst bastards i have meet in my life always seem to be the ones who absolutely must sit in the first 3 rows of pews in the church on sunday[sm=pigsfly.gif]




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