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RE: Deceptive Politically Correct Statements - 6/9/2010 9:51:55 AM

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He always has the same pattern:

*Makes up position that is inherently false.
*Refutes it with made up false statements as if evidence.

That's why I usually just pick a few pieces. You could write a dissertation refuting every bit of it.

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RE: Deceptive Politically Correct Statements - 6/9/2010 11:42:43 AM

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Thanks for the history lesson numbnutts. You can say anything you want, and use facts to support any argument, but the fact is that Germany had to divide half their military to defend the western front thanks to us.

So your position is that germany had only one hundred divisions?
You obviously have not done your homework...did the dog eat it?

Even if Russia had been able to defeat the Germans without our intervention,

They were doing a pretty good job of defeating the germans before the u.s. was even in the war.

then they would have taken over all of Europe, and plunged the world into a communist nightmare.

I do not doubt that russia most likely would have taken over all of europe had not the anglo/american forces been there.
But...
Europe is not the whole world.

Whether you like it or not. America is the world's policeman,

Nothing in the constitution says any such thing

and the only country standing between a free world or a prison planet.

Have you taken the time to read the patriot act?

Why shouldn't we any way? We have hundreds of thousands of people in this country who were born to be warriors.

They do not seem to be doing a very good job of "warrioring" in the sand box.
Perhaps they could use your help?

This is their calling. Isn't it better to have that blood put to good use saving the world for democracy,

Haven't you lectured us that "democracy" is mob rule and that the u.s. is a republic. Please make up your mind.

rather than letting other countries use that calling to imprison an entire planet.

Just how would they do that?

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RE: Deceptive Politically Correct Statements - 6/9/2010 11:57:06 AM

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Of course there's going to be a large Islamic outcry in England when England has allowed millions of Islamic immigrants into their country. In fact, eventually England will be taken over by Muslims if they wait to long to put a stop to it. Which should be a huge red flag to us. So far we haven't even been able to stop Illegal Immigration although 60% do agree with Arizona's new law, which would seem to imply that even more agree that the federal government should be fulfilling their Constitutional responsibilities to protect us from invasion.

You do know your country was founded by immigrants, right?

Do you know England has had a Muslim populations going back over 300 years ?

Do you know over half the Muslims in Britain are as British as me, IE born here ?

You are invited here to use our free NHS for an Enema, preferably between the ears. Maybe then you could actually think straight.

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RE: Deceptive Politically Correct Statements - 6/9/2010 4:55:32 PM

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Well I'm not here to win a popularity contest, so if a liberal hates me, then I'll count that as another success.

You are not passing any history test either

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RE: Deceptive Politically Correct Statements - 6/18/2010 1:04:31 PM

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I'm not here to argue, as any good debater knows you can come up with selective facts to support any position. I'm also not here to enlighten brain defective liberals. There's no hope for those people. I'm only here to give an opposing view point for the people on the fence, who have been brainwashed for the past 30 years by a politically correct, unconstitutional federal government.

By the way, this nation was founded by Immigrants, but most of America is overwhelmingly made up of natural born citizens now including myself. I am not a Immigrant. This gives us the right to say when enough is enough.

If we can't stop Illegal Immigration now, then we sure as hell won't be able to stop Legal Immigration when the time comes, and we double damn sure as hell won't be able to convince people to accept population control when it is do or die.

Sounds like to me liberals can't see 50 years into the future, which explains why they spend more money than they take in, both in government and at home. That's an obvious brain defect right there.

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RE: Deceptive Politically Correct Statements - 6/18/2010 1:16:18 PM

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The Deception:
Deficits don't matter (Jesse Jackson)

The Truth:
Well I guess they don't matter if you think your group doesn't pay taxes any way and aren't the one who have to pay it back.

In reality though, they do matter when you have a national debt to begin with, and the interest, and accumulative deficits keep adding up. In the near future we will soon be paying half a trillion dollars in interest each year on the national debt. Without even applying any reduction to the overall debt. If you divide that up among 50 states, that is $10 billion annually that each state could have for their own infrastructure, projects, and social programs. In fact, the very people liberals despise the most, the wealthy here and in other countries, are the ones you are helping to enrich by not controlling your spending.

Basically, what they are doing is getting you in deeper and deeper by keeping the Illusion going. Each citizen now owes over $38k on the national debt, children included. So that means half of us would have to sell our homes just to cover the people who don't even own homes in order to get out of this mess. If that's not an illusionary economy, then I don't know what is.

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RE: Deceptive Politically Correct Statements - 6/18/2010 2:51:53 PM

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Deficits don't matter (Jesse Jackson)

No. Dick Cheney: "Ronald Reagan proved deficits don't matter."

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RE: Deceptive Politically Correct Statements - 6/18/2010 2:58:24 PM

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I'm not here to argue, as any good debater knows you can come up with selective facts to support any position. I'm also not here to enlighten brain defective liberals. There's no hope for those people. I'm only here to give an opposing view point for the people on the fence, who have been brainwashed for the past 30 years by a politically correct, unconstitutional federal government.

By the way, this nation was founded by Immigrants, but most of America is overwhelmingly made up of natural born citizens now including myself. I am not a Immigrant. This gives us the right to say when enough is enough.

If we can't stop Illegal Immigration now, then we sure as hell won't be able to stop Legal Immigration when the time comes, and we double damn sure as hell won't be able to convince people to accept population control when it is do or die.

Sounds like to me liberals can't see 50 years into the future, which explains why they spend more money than they take in, both in government and at home. That's an obvious brain defect right there.

You vapid asswipe.

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RE: Deceptive Politically Correct Statements - 6/18/2010 2:59:21 PM

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Morticia! Is that French?

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RE: Deceptive Politically Correct Statements - 6/18/2010 6:15:02 PM

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I'm not here to argue, as any good debater knows you can come up with selective facts to support any position.

You mean the facts that you have not been able to comprehend? Show me where I have made a false statement? Show me some data that refutes what I have said or admit that you are an ignorant blowhard who has no clue what he is talking about

I'm also not here to enlighten brain defective liberals.

So far you have only shown the board that you are ignorant of history,economics,political science and basic english grammar.

There's no hope for those people. I'm only here to give an opposing view point for the people on the fence, who have been brainwashed for the past 30 years by a politically correct, unconstitutional federal government.

What exactly is unconstitutional about the federal government for the past thirty years?

By the way, this nation was founded by Immigrants, but most of America is overwhelmingly made up of natural born citizens now including myself. I am not a Immigrant. This gives us the right to say when enough is enough.

Where is that in the constitution?

If we can't stop Illegal Immigration now, then we sure as hell won't be able to stop Legal Immigration when the time comes, and we double damn sure as hell won't be able to convince people to accept population control when it is do or die.

Perhaps you might lead the way by not breathing any more of our air.

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RE: Deceptive Politically Correct Statements - 7/5/2010 8:29:35 PM

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The Deception:
Unemployment checks create jobs (Nancy Pelosi)

The Truth:
At first I automatically attributed this to another long list of ridiculous statements she has made like when she told artists and musicians they would no longer have to work a regular job, since their healthcare would be covered under the new healthcare plan. Then i racked my brain to figure out how on earth she could come up with that. This is how she thinks. By continually giving out unemployment checks with no limit on extensions, she figures those people will spend that money and keep existing businesses profitable, and perhaps even expand to hire more people. To her it's a form of stimulus.

To everyone else, she's using taxpayer money to subsidize the lifestyle of people who refuse to downsize and/or adjust to their new situation and move in with family or friends. The fact is that any time someone gets money when they didn't have to work for it, they are a liability to society in the long run. Here's a simple analogy. Let's say we have 3 families with only one family making money and paying taxes. The other two families have lost their jobs, but thanks to unemployment checks they can continue to live in their nice home, and continue to live their same basic lifestyle minus a few luxuries of course that working people can afford. So we have one family that works, and the government has to take enough taxes from them to support the other two families. Well there's no way possible way that can work. It can barely work if those two families move in with someone else and the family that works has to pay for their food. Basically, extending unemployment benefits is the worst possible thing they can do, since all it does is attempt to subsidize someone who either isn't working or refuses to work. As you can see by my example, it's almost too much just to provide food stamps for them much less put a roof over their head.

By the way, we already have senior citizens, mentally ill people, diseased, and chronically ill people who we are responsible for and we must subsidize since the average family is not able to take care of these people and work at the same time. Common sense would tell you that we can't possibly subsidize young, healthy people other than making sure they get fed if they don't have parents any more.

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RE: Deceptive Politically Correct Statements - 7/5/2010 8:40:21 PM

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The Deception:
If the private sector isn't creating jobs, then the government must (idiot on the news)

The Truth:
This is insane logic. Any time you create government jobs, you must either raise taxes or borrow money to pay their salaries. Oh i suppose you could argue that as the population increases, then there is more tax revenue to pay for those jobs, but the reality is that we must have a larger percentage of people paying taxes in the private sector in order to afford to pay the salaries of government employees. When you begin to put more emphasis on creating government jobs and the ratio of taxpayers to bloodsuckers goes in the wrong direction, that is the worst possible scenario for the long term.

The best solution is to hunker down, ride the storm out no matter how bad it gets, and let the private sector dig us out slowly but surely. Then you will have a permanent recovery. Not getting us in deeper and deeper for the next generation to experience an even worst crisis. Keep in mind that we already almost had a world wide collapse, but yet, this administration is hell bent on going down the same path of more Illegal Immigiration, more free trade, more government, and now more back door taxes that will be passed on to the consumer. All of this is what almost caused the first world wide collapse. So their answer is more of the same.

This is insane.

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RE: Deceptive Politically Correct Statements - 7/6/2010 12:02:01 AM

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I keep falling for the Republican rhetoric about the Democrats and voting for them. Then they turn out to be moderates again and disappoint me.

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RE: Deceptive Politically Correct Statements - 8/5/2010 8:51:39 AM

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The Deception:
America voted for change, and the only alternative is to go back to the way it was. (David Axelrod on Sunday Morning News Show)

The Truth:
David Axelrod was the Obamanation's campaign manager, and his chief political strategist now. This guy is the puppet master pulling the strings that make Obama talk. Everything they do is designed to deceive Americans into accepting total government control over all aspects of their lives, and eventually taking over 50% of your paycheck to redistribute it to people who are too lazy to work. This is what socialism is all about. But I digress.

This type of statement is common among politicians. They only give you their option, and the option that the majority do not want either. They don't tell you about the 3rd option or other options that may be out there. In this case, he states that you must accept our agenda or the alternative is to go back to Bush Policies. WRONG!!!! There is a 3rd option which is to go back to truly conservative government where Congress actually abides by the Constitution , they don't spend more than they take in, they enforce our immigration laws which protect American jobs and our sovereignty, and most of the federal government is redistributed to the states as ordered by the 10th amendment.

Think about this. Here are just 3 examples. Each state already has an energy department, transportation department, and education department. Why do we need these departments at the federal level that cost hundreds of billions of dollars each year and trillions after decades? Some of you might say we have to have these agencies to standardize policies across America. Well can't there be a commission for each of these departments that could write up these standards, and then if the states wanted to comply they could???

This deception is just like when they tell you that there are only two options with the illegal immigration issue. Amnesty or round up 10 million Illegals overnight and deport them all at the same time. WRONG!!!! The third option that they don't tell you about is passing the Everify system that requires each employer to verify the legal status of potential hires. Then when Illegals can't find jobs many of them will self deport over time, and then of course they can easily require law enforcement to check on a persons immigration status anytime they have contact with people during the course of their duties. It would be a slow attrition process over several decades.

THEY ONLY TELL YOU WHAT THEY WANT YOU TO HEAR!!!

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RE: Deceptive Politically Correct Statements - 8/5/2010 11:03:35 AM

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The GOP still wants to do now what bush did then

So he`s correct.

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