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thetammyjo -> RE: Barbara Nitke loses in USSC (3/29/2006 1:49:43 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Guilty1974 quote: ORIGINAL: DiannaVesta This is really sad & I admire the stand she took, however the laws have clearly been posted and they are there for a reason. “The law requires that those sending obscene communications on the Internet take reasonable actions to keep it away from children, like requiring a credit card, debit account or adult access code as proof of age.” So that would basically mean that - were I a US resident - I would have to guard my totally free website (containing mostly pictures of my fully dressed but tied girlfriend) with expensive checks if my viewers are adults. Personally I find that rather silly. It is not I who should make sure that you're children don't enter my website. It is you who as a responsible mother should make sure they do not use the internet without parental guidance before they are old enough to choose which sites are appropriate and which not. Internet is not an electronic babysitter. Roel sacrasm warning But we just want to pop out the kids, not actually have any responsiblity for them. That's what the government or our church is for, right?

MaitresseMissAnn -> RE: Barbara Nitke loses in USSC (5/7/2006 9:04:09 AM)
I financially supported the NCSF in this case and helped publicize it in our local community during a national event I produced in 2004. I wonder now if the NCSF had enough muscle to take it on. I was disappointed to learn that they got nowhere with it. I do think it is good that they were able to bring national attention to this matter though. A good organization with lots of legal victories on the electronic freedom front is The Electronic Frontier Foundation, www.EFF.org Their lawyers contributed one of the briefs used in the Nitke case. Reading the EFF site is like looking at victories on steroids. Some of the best IT geeks, lawyers, and freedom activists in the nation regularly contribute their time and money to this organization. I think the EFF is in a far better position than the NCSF to defend against government attacks of 1st Amendment free expression. I also agree with Tammy Jo that parents need to be responsible for their kids, not the government. Our freedom should not be threatened because of poor parenting. Nice to see she's from Indiana and hope she comes to Wicked Wednesdays! Something else I've noticed is that there is a lot of dissent among our own. If we don't get UNITED quickly folks, we're never going to get anywhere. Each of us should be supported to do what we do consensually with others....PERIOD. Even if most do not agree with our art, our personal expression, our sexual preferences, etc, you need to agree with our right to do it consensually. I've experienced and witnessed more intolerance, judgement, and attacks in our own community than I ever did in many years going to church and attending a christian university. It is shameful behavior and will ultimately be our undoing. As long as we're divided as a community the government has a far better chance of moving forward with its agenda to extort more freedom from us and force us into politically correct herds that they can control. Each of us need to be in the business of defending personal freedom (as long as it does not harm or infringe on the freedom of another) in whatever form it takes. Miss Ann THE REFORMATORY

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