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Real0ne -> RE: Wrong Theocracy (1/3/2010 1:06:17 PM)
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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery
I usually ignore this stuff. Not today. My group reply:
America was founded by a group of very different people whose early leaders were all too familiar with the tyrannical role religion played in government. Even though these leaders argued and argued fiercely about many, many issues, they were clear on this point--the new nation would have a government separate from religion, ruling
Not really.... the original government was formed at church meetings called assemblies.
a country where its citizens were free to practice whatever religion they choose. This was the Age of Enlightenment, and the law of reason would guide the new state.
Well it was after the great charter which was evolved to its next stage imo.
19th and 20th century evangelicals felt differently. In the early 20th century, they even succeeded in adding "In God We Trust" to the nation's currency, a move religious president Theodore Roosevelt strongly opposed as sacrilege.
Thats because while the government as set up not to "favor" any particular religion law is non the less based in religion.
Today, people insist, against all evidence, that America's founders designed a Christian nation, despite their rigorous omission of the mention of Christ from any government documents.
the founders referred to God all the time in their journals, what God you feel they were talking about?
Some people today, ignoring both historical tyranny and modern day examples, wish to create a theocracy in the U.S. It is a horrible mistake, and goes against everything this nation was founded upon. It is also an aberration against religion.
Since virtually all law was founded in religion and common law which was heavily influenced by ecclesiastical law was used to create the constitution how do you come to that conclusion?
In 19th century America, the new railroads needed workers. They also need towns and people to populate them along the new rail routes. Since the U.S. didn't have sufficient population, in numbers or willing participants, they invited immigrants. Literally--ran massive ad campaigns to sell Europeans on coming to America. There were literally more Irish in New York City than in Dublin. Town after town of German immigrants spread across the midwest. And in darker times, America became a refuge for the scientists and artists and social leaders facing death in their own countries--immigrants who helped change a backwater country into the center for the arts and science it is today.
american welcomed talent.
Every business of even moderate size today does business overseas. These are our markets. We are citizens of the world.
Do speak for yourself-----citizen
It makes sense to talk calmly and reasonably to other nations, even as we keep the ability to use stronger methods when necessary. Arrogant cowboys strutting about telling the rest of the world to go to hell, we're Americans, is neither patriotic, effective, nor reasonable. It only proves to the rest of the world that we cannot be reasoned with, that the only thing we listen to are nuclear weapons, and they'd better hurry to get some.
agreed
Mindless blather circulating the Internet has replaced thinking. If America faces any particular difficulty, it's that.
The internet may serve to save america.
Legal immigrants of varied backgrounds are no threat whatsoever. Who cares if we have multilingual people? Anyone who thinks they deliberately sit around refusing to learn English is an idiot--this would only make their life harder. I have seen many of these people, struggling to finish a college degree in a language they are still learning while working crappy full time jobs and living with their families and a few others in just a few rooms. And they do it. They fricking successfully do it! America needs more people like that, people with courage and determination, people with the will to make their lives and their world better than it is. More people with real spirit, and less mouths bitching on the Internet.
The message also ignores the reality of the millions of Muslims who live in the U.S.--doctors and scientists and professors and every other profession, just like everyone else. They don't practice Sharia law here. They don't try to, and they don't want to. They see themselves as Americans, and they follow the law of the land.
Theocratic, jingoistic Christians in America should follow their example or get out. Australia seems a possibility.
This crap angers me. Stop it. Use your brains and think, for Christ's sake.
And it does. Nothing politically correct about it--just mindless blather that people are listening to and starting to believe.
How does all that come together with regard to theocracy?
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