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Ice and Snow tips - 1/7/2010 10:06:50 AM   
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OK folks - this is mainly aimed at Brits who are snowed under and are suffering with it.  (Because we're not used to it, basically.)  Anyone living in much colder parts of the world - please chime in and help us out with any words of wisdom you can give us . . . .

My own three tips to get the ball rolling: 

1 - as mentioned before on this forum:  burst pipes can be be fixed temporarily till the plumber comes with two jubilee clips and a section of cycle inner tube.  Other ingenious - and quite possibly more efficient tips - re plumbing probs were mentioned on the thread in question.  You'll have to do a search . . .

2 - Cat litter.  Apparently, it makes a good ice-gritting material.  Got this from the Channel 4 News.

3 - Stop moaning.  At least we're not having to fight off the Germans at the same time.





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RE: Ice and Snow tips - 1/7/2010 10:08:56 AM   
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don't drive on ice or bad stuff will happen. i can testify to that..

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RE: Ice and Snow tips - 1/7/2010 10:15:14 AM   
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When driving on snow or ice, always ensure you start the car in 1st gear and rev like a maniac, because this is very, very amusing to watch. Also, endeavour to turn the steering wheel as quickly as you can at any bend or junction whilst applying the throttle; this is also very, very amusing to watch. And dont forget to apply your brakes as vigorously as possible when coming to a stop, especially if you dont have ABS. To provide maximum amusement to all, try various combinations of these tips.

Alternatively, if you truly think that providing such amusement to others is something to aspire to, please void your driving licence today and send to DVLA, Swansea, before you kill someone.

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RE: Ice and Snow tips - 1/7/2010 10:32:08 AM   
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If you start sliding, pop the car out of gear BEFORE LIGHTLY pressing on the brakes.

Keep a lot more distance between you and the car in front of you so that you do not have to SLAM on the brakes.

Try to stay in the snow as it provides more traction than the hard packed snow or ice does.

Rear wheel drive, steer into the slide, front wheel, out of.

Just a few...


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RE: Ice and Snow tips - 1/7/2010 10:35:30 AM   
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Eat garlic.

Avoid sudden and extreme changes in temperature. Don't wrap up warm until immediately before you leave the house.

Cold feet in bed? Bury your feet in a pile of old newspapers. Use cardboard for insoles and as additional lining for socks. (from an experienced rough sleeper). Dry cardboard and newspaper provide excellent insulation and help to preserve body heat.

Eat plenty of hot soup, fatty meat, oh and garlic.

Replace milk with Ribena in your tea.

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RE: Ice and Snow tips - 1/7/2010 11:13:28 AM   
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something I did today, because my shoes let water in, tie small plastic bags over socks first, stops your toes falling off

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RE: Ice and Snow tips - 1/7/2010 11:24:53 AM   
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If driving in snow, if your car gets stuck do not accelerate and spin the wheels further in the snow. Rock the car forward and back. Reverse, than drive, reverse than drive , back and forth. Break early when driving and pump the brakes to stop. If you end up on ice go with the ice, not against it. If you do get stuck, lets hope you have been nice to your neighbors. And use sand for traction, or try the mats in your car under the tires. LEt you car warm up. I start it and go back inside. It will not shift correctly until you let it warm up enough.

Wear layers. and a good pair of tights (heavier than stockings) really help. Nylon pantyhose provide warmth.

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RE: Ice and Snow tips - 1/7/2010 11:25:50 AM   
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How to Drive up an Icy Hill.

First, look for an alternative route because even if you do everything I say there is still no guarantee that you won’t die (I accept no moral culpability or legal responsibility if anyone kills themselves or others trying this – you have been warned).

Okay, so you’ve decided you have no choice but to make the attempt. DO NOT put the car into low gear and attempt to go up slowly – this will not work! People who try that in my area are called morons or Southerners. Instead, put the car in drive and get as much of a start as you can. Speed is important and you want to go as fast as you safely can while keeping a straight line. Keep as straight a line as you can as you ascend up the hill. As soon as you feel the car start to hesitate, drop ONE gear down, press SLIGHTLY on the gas pedal and keep going. If the car begins to hesitate again, drop down another gear and again press slightly down on the gas pedal.

If the car again starts to hesitate and you have no more gears to drop down into then you are probably screwed. Make your peace with God as you start sliding down the hill. Try to enjoy the spinning around in circles (wheeeee!!!! It’s like a ride!!!!).

If you do make it to the top of the hill then do a fist pump and shout in triumph. Then, feeling flushed with excitement over still being alive, drive home and fuck your Significant Other silly.


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RE: Ice and Snow tips - 1/7/2010 11:44:22 AM   
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And give yourself extra time so that you do not feel rushed.

Bad drivers.......stay home.


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RE: Ice and Snow tips - 1/7/2010 11:44:42 AM   
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Make sure your motor insurance is up to date and as comprehensive as possible.

So if you skid on hard-packed ice (like I did) and hit a stationary car (like I did) then at least the trauma of dealing with the physical damage to the vehicle is lessened.

Oh, and remember - whiplash injury is very real and very painful!



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RE: Ice and Snow tips - 1/7/2010 11:46:11 AM   
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Dress for the weather OUTSIDE, not the weather in your home, car, or office. People like me can only pull out, rescue, so many morons before we start leaving them sitting along side the edge of the road, as we drive by shaking our heads.

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RE: Ice and Snow tips - 1/7/2010 11:54:26 AM   
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As a Canadian I should be full of tons of advice, but we are sworn to secrecy about it all....

Actually its really very simple...drive slower and leave extra room between you and the guy in front (and pray the guy behind you does the same). Loose snow does not always provide better traction, it depends on what's under it, loose snow on top of ice is slipperier than anything.

As for non-driving advice, again its pretty simple..LAYERS. That's the secret, when I go out I wear a vest and a coat. Cover your head...any type of hat is better than none, you lose more heat from your head than anywhere else. Wear gloves or mitts (actually mitts are better as your fingers help keep eachother warm, the ideal is knitted gloves under leather/nylon mitts, that way if you have to remove a mitt to do something your hand is not bare.

Wear appropriate footwear...sneakers are NOT appropriate winter footwear, no matter how "cool" they look, neither are just about any regular indoor fottwear. Insulated boots are what is required. In Canada, most people keep a pair of shoes at their office or in their locker (or just carry them in a bag) to switch into at work. I usually carry a pair of dry socks in my backpack in case my feet get wet, wet feet is a no-no to be avoided if at all possible.

Ignore fashion...in a winter climate nobody but high-school kids gives a shit what you look like outdoors (well other than thinking to themselves.."hmmmm she looks nice and warm, I am going to have to try that..."). It doesn't matter if you look like a pregnant walrus if you are warm...bad fashion never killed anybody, hypothermia has.

What else...Oh yeah when its -30 or worse stay the fuck indoors unless absolutely necessary...with the wind effect -30 can very easily be seriously dangerous, that is NOT the time to go for a walk.


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RE: Ice and Snow tips - 1/7/2010 12:01:17 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: LadyEllen

When driving on snow or ice, always ensure you start the car in 1st gear and rev like a maniac, because this is very, very amusing to watch. Also, endeavour to turn the steering wheel as quickly as you can at any bend or junction whilst applying the throttle; this is also very, very amusing to watch. And dont forget to apply your brakes as vigorously as possible when coming to a stop, especially if you dont have ABS. To provide maximum amusement to all, try various combinations of these tips.

Alternatively, if you truly think that providing such amusement to others is something to aspire to, please void your driving licence today and send to DVLA, Swansea, before you kill someone.

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RE: Ice and Snow tips - 1/7/2010 12:06:10 PM   
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As a Canadian I should be full of tons of advice, but we are sworn to secrecy about it all....

Actually its really very simple...drive slower and leave extra room between you and the guy in front (and pray the guy behind you does the same). Loose snow does not always provide better traction, it depends on what's under it, loose snow on top of ice is slipperier than anything.

As for non-driving advice, again its pretty simple..LAYERS. That's the secret, when I go out I wear a vest and a coat. Cover your head...any type of hat is better than none, you lose more heat from your head than anywhere else. Wear gloves or mitts (actually mitts are better as your fingers help keep eachother warm, the ideal is knitted gloves under leather/nylon mitts, that way if you have to remove a mitt to do something your hand is not bare.

Wear appropriate footwear...sneakers are NOT appropriate winter footwear, no matter how "cool" they look, neither are just about any regular indoor fottwear. Insulated boots are what is required. In Canada, most people keep a pair of shoes at their office or in their locker (or just carry them in a bag) to switch into at work. I usually carry a pair of dry socks in my backpack in case my feet get wet, wet feet is a no-no to be avoided if at all possible.

Ignore fashion...in a winter climate nobody but high-school kids gives a shit what you look like outdoors (well other than thinking to themselves.."hmmmm she looks nice and warm, I am going to have to try that..."). It doesn't matter if you look like a pregnant walrus if you are warm...bad fashion never killed anybody, hypothermia has.

What else...Oh yeah when its -30 or worse stay the fuck indoors unless absolutely necessary...with the wind effect -30 can very easily be seriously dangerous, that is NOT the time to go for a walk.


What Arpig Says.... some great advice, but my personal favourite is to stay home, hot chocolate and a snuggie
otherwise, layers, tights, and spare socks or feetie things
I have had three inches of snow ...thats it, in toronto??? BAH humbug
I should be home playing wiv my cousins


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RE: Ice and Snow tips - 1/7/2010 12:20:04 PM   
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When I lived in New Hampshire we laughed at ice and snow!

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RE: Ice and Snow tips - 1/7/2010 12:33:13 PM   
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In addition to the layers, I love a good boot dryer. Let's face it, feet sweat.  Once your boots spend two or three days on your feet, the insulation gets wet (the outsides of good winter boots are water proof, thus there is no where for the moisture to go) and because of this, your feet get cold no matter how many wool socks you put on.  Some linings are removable some are not.  With a good boot dryer it doesn't matter.  Mine has a timer that I can set in 10 minute increments up to two hours.  If you have more than two people in the house, get more than one.  It's easy for 2 people to share 1 but much harder for 3 or more. 

If you must wear a combination of cotton and wool socks, make sure the cotton is on the outside layer.  Cotton holds moisture much closer to your skin than wool, which tends to move it away.  I use Smart Wool socks which have less itch than conventional wool socks.

Believe it or not, spandex makes a great starting layer (think 1980's women's workout wear).  I don't know why it works, but the thicker version you can find, the warmer you are even when you have to spend lots of time out doors.  Slave uses it for hunting every winter and sleeps in his tent with it on.  I have found that if you can't find spandex, a polyester set of thermal underwear work better than the cotton ones.  Silk is also very good but it doesn't stand up to repeated washings and use nearly as long.

In addition to protecting your head and ears, wear a scarf.  I can stay much warmer for much longer if my neck is also kept warm.

Don't forget, 4 wheel drive in no way, shape, or form means 4 wheel stop.  It helps you get going but will do nothing to help you stop.

Take some extra time to make sure all your windows are cleared off.  If you have lots of snow build up, a good broom will take it off so it isn't falling into your gloves while you are trying to use the ice scraper.  Clear off the top of your car as well.  When you get on the move, if you haven't gotten it off, it tends to cover your windshield at the most perilous moment of your journey.  Windshield wipers can't always keep up with the amount sitting on top waiting to block your view.

When you start your car, turn on the defroster, and head back in the house, have a second key in the house so you can lock the doors and still be able to get in the car later.  It will depend on the number of cylinders your car has as to how long it takes to warm up.  Fewer cylinders warm up faster.  (May vary by manufacturer, just my experience here.)



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RE: Ice and Snow tips - 1/7/2010 1:16:57 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Arpig

As a Canadian I should be full of tons of advice, but we are sworn to secrecy about it all....


What else...Oh yeah when its -30 or worse stay the fuck indoors unless absolutely necessary...with the wind effect -30 can very easily be seriously dangerous, that is NOT the time to go for a walk.




mercifully -30 doesnt happen here....

it is a bit snowy though, this morning the entire of britain barring a couple of scottish isles was covered:

http://kimprint.files.wordpress.com/2010/01/snowmed.jpg

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RE: Ice and Snow tips - 1/7/2010 2:24:02 PM   
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Not just yet; -14 forecast for here tonight mind, so we're getting there.

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RE: Ice and Snow tips - 1/7/2010 2:46:23 PM   
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To avoid pipes freezing, leave the tap on a very little. The constant trickle of water moving will keep it moving and stop it from freezing. If the pipes are on an outside wall, open the cabinet doors to allow the room heat to get to them.  If they aren't frozen solid, you might be able to thaw them with a hair dryer.

Don't drive in this. If you must, bring power bars, blankets, gallon of water into the car to keep you until you're rescued. Don't leave the car thinking you will find help, that way lies getting lost and hypothermia.

Oh forgot, keep the car full of petrol. If it's near empty, then any water in it will freeze and block the siphon that allows the gas to get out of the tank.  My kid did this last week, "Help, the car's broken down". Luckily she was only 5 minutes from home and The Man had just gotten back. He went and diagnosed it, we went home for the gas can and added a couple of gallons and then filled her up in town. If like her, this does happen to you, then add some Dry Gas at your next fill up.

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RE: Ice and Snow tips - 1/7/2010 2:51:33 PM   
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quote:

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Not just yet; -14 forecast for here tonight mind, so we're getting there.

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