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IronBear -> RE: Vanilla Issues After D/s is appears (3/22/2006 5:46:00 PM)

LA, I agree with you 100%. I’m currently counseling on line a lass who for her own health and safety of her child had to leave a collar because of such a situation.. I think you’ll agree that we can take it as a given that there are people out there in both camps who are just bone idle lazy and nothing short of a nuc under them is going to get them motivated. (metaphorically speaking).




rawney62 -> RE: Vanilla Issues After D/s is appears (3/22/2006 7:21:07 PM)

actually what i do is respectfully take those things over that He either doesn't have time for , or that He keeps forgetting to do. Seems to have worked out pretty well this way, His things are getting done and mine as well.




RiotGirl -> RE: Vanilla Issues After D/s is appears (3/22/2006 10:22:59 PM)

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Got a question for you chicken, You are collared to a Dom who does have disabilities.. he cant get about much without a stick or stand for long periods of time and has short-term memory loss, but yet will and does put him self out and into a shit load of pain to make sure you are ok even to the point where he places your overall welfare before his own. He does expect you to be his PA and remind him of things he has forgotten to do. Could you live with that or from your view point is there too much contradiction between his mastery and the things he can’t do or the way he prioritizes things??



First Mr IB - theres a difference in what i stated and what you stated.  What i stated was a lack of control due to irresponsiblity.  What you stated was lack of ability due to disability.  One is phsyical (yours) and one mental (mine)  What you stated, i could live with.  Except for the part where he placed my welfare over his and put himself in pain.  Neither of those are things i would be able to say "hey thats okay"  On top of that in your scenario he understands his short comings, forgetfulness, and says "hey can you help me".    There's a MAJOR difference in saying "hey can you help me" then saying "its not important - i could careless" 

i hope i'm explaining well.  Its not about what he "cant" do.  Its about what he "wont" do.  Like its one thing to forget to pay a bill and its another thing to know he has to pay a bill and not do it.




RiotGirl -> RE: Vanilla Issues After D/s is appears (3/22/2006 10:24:10 PM)

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I think the specifics of putting so much active effort into making sure things are going well AND the prior knowledge that there would be uncontrollable memory issues make the case that it's not doing a disservice.

However, the reality is that there ARE relationships in which the sub basically becomes the keeper of the domain due to the doms laziness and the sub becomes the enabler.


you said it better then i did




RiotGirl -> RE: Vanilla Issues After D/s is appears (3/22/2006 10:27:17 PM)

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nothing short of a nuc under them is going to get them motivated. (metaphorically speaking).


<wicked grin>  heh sometimes having explosive emotions isnt such a bad thing. 




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