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joether -> Origin of a Concept (1/8/2010 2:28:37 AM)

In online chat rooms (like the one here on Cm), I've seen people with collars. Their name usually is first, and the collar is second. I was wondering if anyone has a good idea on where this concept and culture might have orginated from?

I had thought, for some odd reason, the concept came in some way, from Gorean practice. In that, a slave had thier name, but the collar showed ownership, so that the slave did not have to answer, EVERY, person that walked in, that she was both a slave and owned.

I recall being on IRC in the late '90s, and not seeing this discription of a name. But in the time sense, I kept seeing it more and more, widely used.




RealSub58 -> RE: Origin of a Concept (1/8/2010 1:33:52 PM)

From online




joether -> RE: Origin of a Concept (1/8/2010 2:28:03 PM)

Maybe. But where? I'm sure there's a few english literature BA's on CM. And history majors. Heck, just people who are very knowledgable about BDSM who might think and put in their thoughts on the idea.




SylvereApLeanan -> RE: Origin of a Concept (1/8/2010 2:31:33 PM)

I don't have documentation to back this, but the first time I saw this convention was in the late 1990s in the Silk & Steel Gorean chatroom on IRC.




Malkinius -> RE: Origin of a Concept (1/8/2010 2:32:40 PM)

Greetings joether....

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ORIGINAL: joether
In online chat rooms (like the one here on Cm), I've seen people with collars. Their name usually is first, and the collar is second. I was wondering if anyone has a good idea on where this concept and culture might have orginated from?

I had thought, for some odd reason, the concept came in some way, from Gorean practice. In that, a slave had thier name, but the collar showed ownership, so that the slave did not have to answer, EVERY, person that walked in, that she was both a slave and owned.

I recall being on IRC in the late '90s, and not seeing this discription of a name. But in the time sense, I kept seeing it more and more, widely used.


I know it was in use on IRC in Gorean channels more than 10 years ago. I heard it was developed in #silkandsteel and I have heard they took the idea from something one of their members saw elsewhere. I know they used it to have a way to show who owned a slave. The original idea was that the owners name or identifying characters were after the slave's name. So you would have slavename{OWNER} for their online name. That simple concept was perverted all over the place with the slave's name in the brackets, other codes and letters after it and sometimes other long lines of information as well.

I really don't know where it started first but I do know it did cross back into some BDSM online channels from online Gor channels. I just don't know where it started first or gained prominence first. I can confirm the Gorean usage in the late 90's tho.

Be well....

Malkinius




PrimalConsonance -> RE: Origin of a Concept (1/10/2010 10:58:14 PM)

(CNJDom says:) I've been online for a good number of years and have seen a lot over the years.  I've seen that back then (I had the first BDSM chat room on DALnet back when it was just two nodes and about 100 people whacking off to pictures of Uhura...I couldn't find that picture myself or...but I digress), so I don't think it's Gorean in nature.  In any case, a good question!  




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