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mnottertail -> RE: Is the Secret Service Targeting the Birthers? (1/8/2010 3:20:03 PM)

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ORIGINAL: popeye1250


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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

why dont you just show us your two inch dick? same reason I suppose. We go to war with Iraw because of WMD, that we cant find, how the fuck you gonna find a birth certificate in the united states then, most people cant find their own ass with two hands and a flashlight, for fucks sake!

Ron


Ron, wtf, you just send away to the city or town hall clerk's office where you were born! It takes a week!



Well, hes in washington, the birth certificate is in hawaii, and it was christmas week, maybe we need to check out the post office, huh?

go on national tv and show me your discharge papers, I believe you are dishonorably discharged and you have typos on it. now what would your attitude be? Right. so you got that to work with for starters. next, it wouldnt matter if you showed it to me as his has been shown all over the net thru the freedom of information act, you're still lying, and if it is a big fucking deal, you send the 20 bucks (or whatever) to the fuckin courthouse and get your own copy of his birth certificate, that no one that is a birther seems to have, they heard from jimbobbillyboy who told uncle fester that....... birth certificates, that aint a government secret, they'll send you the goddamn thing if you want to pay for it.

Ron




Real0ne -> RE: Is the Secret Service Targeting the Birthers? (1/8/2010 3:27:50 PM)

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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

why dont you just show us your two inch dick? same reason I suppose. We go to war with Iraw because of WMD, that we cant find, how the fuck you gonna find a birth certificate in the united states then, most people cant find their own ass with two hands and a flashlight, for fucks sake!

Ron


dang!

I hope someone paid you for that apology!




LaTigresse -> RE: Is the Secret Service Targeting the Birthers? (1/8/2010 3:38:32 PM)

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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

quote:

ORIGINAL: popeye1250


quote:

ORIGINAL: mnottertail

why dont you just show us your two inch dick? same reason I suppose. We go to war with Iraw because of WMD, that we cant find, how the fuck you gonna find a birth certificate in the united states then, most people cant find their own ass with two hands and a flashlight, for fucks sake!

Ron


Ron, wtf, you just send away to the city or town hall clerk's office where you were born! It takes a week!



Well, hes in washington, the birth certificate is in hawaii, and it was christmas week, maybe we need to check out the post office, huh?

go on national tv and show me your discharge papers, I believe you are dishonorably discharged and you have typos on it. now what would your attitude be? Right. so you got that to work with for starters. next, it wouldnt matter if you showed it to me as his has been shown all over the net thru the freedom of information act, you're still lying, and if it is a big fucking deal, you send the 20 bucks (or whatever) to the fuckin courthouse and get your own copy of his birth certificate, that no one that is a birther seems to have, they heard from jimbobbillyboy who told uncle fester that....... birth certificates, that aint a government secret, they'll send you the goddamn thing if you want to pay for it.

Ron


Ron, will you be my mentor?




kittinSol -> RE: Is the Secret Service Targeting the Birthers? (1/8/2010 3:44:39 PM)

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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

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ORIGINAL: popeye1250


quote:

ORIGINAL: mnottertail

why dont you just show us your two inch dick? same reason I suppose. We go to war with Iraw because of WMD, that we cant find, how the fuck you gonna find a birth certificate in the united states then, most people cant find their own ass with two hands and a flashlight, for fucks sake!

Ron


Ron, wtf, you just send away to the city or town hall clerk's office where you were born! It takes a week!



Well, hes in washington, the birth certificate is in hawaii, and it was christmas week, maybe we need to check out the post office, huh?

go on national tv and show me your discharge papers, I believe you are dishonorably discharged and you have typos on it. now what would your attitude be? Right. so you got that to work with for starters. next, it wouldnt matter if you showed it to me as his has been shown all over the net thru the freedom of information act, you're still lying, and if it is a big fucking deal, you send the 20 bucks (or whatever) to the fuckin courthouse and get your own copy of his birth certificate, that no one that is a birther seems to have, they heard from jimbobbillyboy who told uncle fester that....... birth certificates, that aint a government secret, they'll send you the goddamn thing if you want to pay for it.

Ron


*Biting my lips*... because... at least, when you have a nice and tight centralised government (BOOH!!!), there's no argument to be had: a BC is a BC. When you start devoluting... that's when the rats start crawling out of the woodworks. Nation states tend to be hateful and horrible, but there's a lot to be said for a good central government that 'won't take no shit from nobody, goddammit'. Ha.




popeye1250 -> RE: Is the Secret Service Targeting the Birthers? (1/8/2010 4:16:43 PM)


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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

quote:

ORIGINAL: popeye1250


quote:

ORIGINAL: mnottertail

why dont you just show us your two inch dick? same reason I suppose. We go to war with Iraw because of WMD, that we cant find, how the fuck you gonna find a birth certificate in the united states then, most people cant find their own ass with two hands and a flashlight, for fucks sake!

Ron


Ron, wtf, you just send away to the city or town hall clerk's office where you were born! It takes a week!



Well, hes in washington, the birth certificate is in hawaii, and it was christmas week, maybe we need to check out the post office, huh?

go on national tv and show me your discharge papers, I believe you are dishonorably discharged and you have typos on it. now what would your attitude be? Right. so you got that to work with for starters. next, it wouldnt matter if you showed it to me as his has been shown all over the net thru the freedom of information act, you're still lying, and if it is a big fucking deal, you send the 20 bucks (or whatever) to the fuckin courthouse and get your own copy of his birth certificate, that no one that is a birther seems to have, they heard from jimbobbillyboy who told uncle fester that....... birth certificates, that aint a government secret, they'll send you the goddamn thing if you want to pay for it.

Ron


Ronald, I have the "short" and "long" copies of my birth certificate and of course my Discharge papers (DD-214) from the U.S. Navy and U.S. Coast Guard right in my file cabinet.
And why would (I) want to see a copy of Obama's birth certificate?




mnottertail -> RE: Is the Secret Service Targeting the Birthers? (1/8/2010 4:24:06 PM)

and I am pretty much sure the white kenyan or whatever the fuck he is being called this week got a drivers license, a teaching certificate, a high school diploma, a birth certificate and some pictures of him in cuban disco heels and those long pointy collar shirts with an afro, that he thought were really cool in his late teens and early 20s that he is ashamed of now, that he aint going to plaster all over tv either, as a common sort of fuck you, nunya!!!! in his capacity as an american citizen.

Ron




kittinSol -> RE: Is the Secret Service Targeting the Birthers? (1/8/2010 4:26:03 PM)

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ORIGINAL: popeye1250
Ronald, I have the "short" and "long" copies of my birth certificate and of course my Discharge papers (DD-214) from the U.S. Navy and U.S. Coast Guard right in my file cabinet.


Yeah, right. Publish them. Then we'll believe you. 'Till then, you'll be considered to be an illegal immigrant from the Irish Republic.





TheHeretic -> RE: Is the Secret Service Targeting the Birthers? (1/8/2010 9:34:24 PM)

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ORIGINAL: LaTigresse

WTF is a Birther?


Right there in the same category with the folks who insist that 9/11 was a gov't conspiracy, and that George Bush II didn't win the '00 election, LaT.




TheHeretic -> RE: Is the Secret Service Targeting the Birthers? (1/8/2010 9:42:50 PM)

Even from my perspective of a free speech sort of guy and someone who spent a few of my formative years on the receiving end of gov't surveillance and harrassment, I'm ok with this.  The Secret Service has a unique function, and as long as nobody is getting dragged off for "re-education," I think it's completely acceptable for them to investigate such activity.  I just hope they are throwing the net a lot wider than the birthers.

Losing our President to an assassination would be a horrible blow to my country.  I'm sure the pressures of the office will age him heavily, but I want President Obama to go to home to Chicago in 2013 in good health.




InvisibleBlack -> RE: Is the Secret Service Targeting the Birthers? (1/8/2010 9:46:59 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Brain

I think it would be horrible if a president was assassinated again, especially because he is black. Instead of improving race relations it would set things back at least 50 years...


Not to mention it would make Joe Biden the President! That might be the sign that triggers the Apocalypse.




Moonhead -> RE: Is the Secret Service Targeting the Birthers? (1/9/2010 5:20:11 AM)

I wonder if there'd have been all this fuss over John McCain's birth certificate if he'd won the last election instead of having his campaign nobbled by a mouthbreather? It's pretty well documented that he wasn't born in the 'States, after all. Would all the Democrats be whining about a bloody panamanian immigrant running the country and how he isn't an American and shouldn't be President?




TheHeretic -> RE: Is the Secret Service Targeting the Birthers? (1/9/2010 6:17:41 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Moonhead

I wonder if there'd have been all this fuss over John McCain's birth certificate if he'd won the last election instead of having his campaign nobbled by a mouthbreather? It's pretty well documented that he wasn't born in the 'States, after all. Would all the Democrats be whining about a bloody panamanian immigrant running the country and how he isn't an American and shouldn't be President?


Very probably.  They never did let go of the "selected, not elected" talking point.




ThatDaveGuy69 -> RE: Is the Secret Service Targeting the Birthers? (1/9/2010 6:46:48 AM)

I don't want to imply that the birthers who claim they were visited by law enforecement official are making up anything, (OK, yes I do!) but wouldn't you maybe want to publish the names of the agents? Maybe get in a photo or two? I'd like to think if someone came to "interview" me that I would, at the very least, get the name and badge number of every cop/agent/whatever I allowed into my home. And file a FOIA claim to get a copy of the file they have on me. Without that sort of evidence, their claims of being interviewed are as empty as their claims that barak Obama is not a US citizen.

BTW: GW did not actually "win" the 2000 election - it was decided in court. And I don't say that in any partisan sort of way. Am I the only one who remembers the "hanging chads" from all those half-punched election ballots in Florida? I'm not into the whole "Republicans stole the 200 election" stuff. It was 10 years ago and there's no going back. But please don't say GW won the election. Gore had the popular vote, but by giving him FL the courts gave GW the number of Electoral College delegates needed to become president. And there was the usual chorus afterward to abolish the EC, just as there is after every close race. But that's a whole other issue...

~Dave




Moonhead -> RE: Is the Secret Service Targeting the Birthers? (1/9/2010 6:53:18 AM)

There was that whole Brooks Brothers riot thing to stop recounts happening as well, wasn't there?
Still, the Democrats only have themselves to blame for nominating a spineless wanker who conceded as soon as that kerfuffle in Florida started instead of sticking to his guns.




Real0ne -> RE: Is the Secret Service Targeting the Birthers? (1/9/2010 6:54:44 AM)

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ORIGINAL: servantforuse

Have you noticed any black helicopters flying over your house ?


go north about 200 miles if you want to see them on a regular basis




Real0ne -> RE: Is the Secret Service Targeting the Birthers? (1/9/2010 7:00:44 AM)

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ORIGINAL: LaTigresse

WTF is a Birther?



its the fight between those who believe the de jure constitution and the those who believe the corporate constitution.

birthers demand proof, corporatists say their word (a cert) is good enough...

Its a fight over "how much" is proof.

If it were up to the corporatists, as far as they are concerned their "word" is proof......

Oh and anyone who knows about law knows that just because a mechanic is certified is hardly any kind of guarantee of performance. 








Musicmystery -> RE: Is the Secret Service Targeting the Birthers? (1/9/2010 7:28:55 AM)

~FR~

I have known people detained by the SS temporarily (showed up and kept them where they were) while past presidents were passing through town. The reason was inflammatory anti-administration stuff they had written. The SS were polite but firm, and in response to protests, politely pointed out that they don't get second chances, and that those detained would be free to leave as soon as the president was again on his way.

For what it's worth.





thornhappy -> RE: Is the Secret Service Targeting the Birthers? (1/9/2010 8:24:52 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Moonhead

There was that whole Brooks Brothers riot thing to stop recounts happening as well, wasn't there?

Yep, complements of William Kristol.




TheHeretic -> RE: Is the Secret Service Targeting the Birthers? (1/9/2010 8:30:48 AM)

FR

LOL!  Still spouting that nonsense all these years later?  Oh well.  The 9/11 nutcases still want to insist that fire can't melt steel, and we are just about due for a 5th (or 6th, I don't bother keeping track) Kenyan "birth certificate" to be discovered.

Peas in a pod.




Musicmystery -> RE: Is the Secret Service Targeting the Birthers? (1/9/2010 8:42:55 AM)

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The 9/11 nutcases still want to insist that fire can't melt steel


How do they figure steel is made or shaped, then?

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