afterforever
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ORIGINAL: UniqueRaven Note**** by "Spiritual" in this post i don't necessarily mean including the worship of any particular G-d. It could also be just how someone connects with the universe, or karma, or just the energies of other humans. i'm referring to that sense of something "other", or even "higher", outside of yourself, and whether that plays a role or not. i had someone read my profile and my journal recently and say that he thought we could be a good match, but that i was a much more "spiritual" submissive than he was used to. This got me thinking - i am spiritual, yes, it comes a lot from my yoga training, but i tend to see the spirtual as enhancing the functionality of my submission, in other words it enables me to just be - and to just be present for my D-types desires and needs from me. And then i realized that there really is a range on this - there recently was a thread in the sub/slave forum on spirituality enhancing submission, and i saw that quite a few s-types related their submission strongly with their spirituality, including myself. But then i see D-types who post who are purely "do it, don't think about it, etc. etc." and don't really care about spirituality. Conversely, i also see D-types who want to take their s-types on a spiritual journey of sorts, who want to lead him/her in that way. So overall, where do you fit on the range? Do you see D/s as more "functional" or "spiritual"? Can you relate or be engaged with a partner who is on the other end of the range as you? And i'm particularly interested if it is the general trend that s-types are more spiritual, and the D-types are more functional, or if i'm just putting too much of my own interpretation on things. Looking forward to the responses! Thought this one going to be an easy one to answer for me... I'm an atheist, I have never called myself spiritual and have no plans on starting now. That may be partially to do with the religiosity of my surroundings to be fair, I don't know many people here who would claim spirituality without a belief in God. My views on relationships are generally functional and emotional. I feel a connection with whoever I'm with beyond the effects of friction but I call that emotion (or sometimes the result of hormones and neurotransmitters, if I'm feeling a little cynical, or both, depending). However I do sometimes feel a kind of ego-death sensation when I submit and am really spacing, which can lead to a feeling of connection with the universe, which was included in the OP definition of spiritual. It sometimes reminds me of taking hallucinogens, especially mescaline, except without the light show. You're enjoying a nice buzz, then suddenly your perceptions of the world take a running back-flip into the void, insignificance looms, for a while you understand how big and interconnected the universe really is. Of course again, I choose to ascribe physical causes to this feeling, I put chemicals in my body, a predictable result occurs, I submit, endorphins flow, ditto. Nice and scientific. But possibly for some people, the feelings if not the cause are the same? I wouldn't know. I have no idea how this affects my submission or if it does at all, I don't think it does much, really. And I'm totally fine with someone else on the other end of the spectrum, as long as no one is going to try to convert the other.
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