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ORIGINAL: HandSolo

Well, I retreated to Wikipedia, and got:  "Hobson's choice is often misused to mean a false illusion of choice, but it is not a choice between two undesirable options, which is a Morton's Fork." Apparently, I've fallen victim to infering the definition from a context in which the term was misused. I've always taken the term to mean a decision between a bad choice and a completely untenable one.

Since I've started it accidentally, a Hobson's choice bondage scene might be similar to some self-bondage scenes, where in order to release oneself, a painful or distasteful task would have to be performed. Say, one is shackled hand and wrist, and in a posture collar. A heavy weight, too large to suspend, is connected to clamps, parachute yaddayadda. The keys to the shackles are several rooms away, maybe up a flight of stairs. The Dom/mme announces that the only way out for the sub is to go get the keys his or herself, then takes up a position as a spectator for the laborious and painful journey.

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ORIGINAL: DemonKia
tho' it might not seem like much on the surface

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ORIGINAL: PhoenixRed

FR to the OP

OOOOhhhh, one of my favorite topics! Here's a fun little game I have used before.

Want your subs to develop buns of steel? Here's one to try. Have sub stand with legs apart. The farther apart their legs are, the harder it is to do. If you make them do this in a squatting position instead, it's even harder. The dildo will drop farther if they're standing though. ;)

Get a pyrex glass dildo with a bit of a head on it and a flanged base (one that looks like you could use it in a harness). Decide ahead of time how many swats with a cane/paddle {choose your implement of torture} he/she gets if he/she drops the dildo. [or insert any other consequence here] Grease pyrex dildo up with a good silicone lube. This puppy is SLICK now! Slip a cock ring over the dildo so it rests on the base.

Insert into sub (guys, you know where, women, can be 1 of 2 places). Have them hold it for a predetermined amount of time (say 5 seconds). They hold it, great. Attach weight to the cock ring (I use fishing weights). Number of punishment swats for dropping it goes down as weight goes up. Hold again, add more weight, repeat. At some point there will definitely be enough weight on it that no matter how tight the sub squeezes those cheeks together, it's gonna drop!

In the original test run of this predicament, I just had him hold his arms behind his neck. Though relatively straightforward and simple regarding setup, is hard to do for the sub as it is without bondage, and I didn't want to make it too difficult, or it will only last a few minutes! lol Every "distraction" you add will probably decrease the amount of time it can be done. But hey, we like challenges, right?

Even without physical restraints, you can easily make this into a muscular endurance/mental bondage predicament. For instance, have them hold their arms out or hold an object at arms length in front of them while they do it and impose punishment for lowering them. Have them bend at the waist at 45 degrees instead of standing up straight and hold that position while doing it....their muscles will start shaking at some point - esp if their arms are behind their back (easiest), straight out to the side (harder), or at their neck (hardest)! Ain't gravity great?! If you blindfold them, they will have no line of sight or fixed point to lock on to, making balance harder.

Here are some physical bondage "enhancements" to this predicament:

My switch has eye hooks and chains hanging from his ceiling (how convenient!) Attach his wrist cuffs to the chains. Use a single fixed point like a doorknob, table leg, etc. Put the parachute (or rope) around his balls with weights hanging from them. Attach parachute by a chain (or rope) to the fixed point. Now, balls secured, arms secured. You can rope tie his cock and attach that. You can use nipple clamps, or labia clamps for a female, and attach those. And there can be the ever-popular zipper attached as well. If you don't have an overhead attachment point, cuff sub's hands behind their back or behind their neck to their collar. Makes it harder for them to balance, especially if their legs are spread very wide. After each successful holding period, make him/her take 1 step away from the fixed attachment point, pulling whatever you decided to attach to it a bit tighter each time.

Using a pinwheel, fingernails, a light flogging, a riding crop, violet wand, etc. while in this position will also make it more difficult.

I'd suggest trying it first just with them standing, no bondage, arms free at their sides, just to see how long they can do the basic predicament, and how much weight it takes to make the dildo drop. Sort of a baseline, if you will. Then you can always add on whatever you may want to.

My switch managed to get 16 oz of weight on it before he couldn't hold it any more. If you decide to try this, let me know how it works for ya. Enjoy!

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ORIGINAL: rhpaw

i think perdicament bondage is one of greatest ways a mistress can show how much attention she pays to her sub. It takes alot of thinking and preparation on her part and also a constant monitoring of them during the process.

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ORIGINAL: LadyAngelika

Not being a big fan of public events, I did make one exception and attend a quaint little workshop that Midori held here in Montréal back in 2004 focusing on predicament bondage and, at the time, discussed it here.

She did 3 demos. My favourite of the 3 began with her getting this cute little rugby player volunteer to strip down and tied his arms behind his back and ankles to a spreader bar. He was made to bend his knees and a string was tied to his balls and cock and then to the spreader bar. If he straightened his legs, it would stretch his genitals. If he kept his genitals comfortable, his thighs would burn. And she layered this with other predicaments and the scene lasted nearly an hour. He was actually impressive in his endurance and Midori radiant in her dominance and the scene was nothing less then thrilling.

I realised that without knowing the specifics of predicament bondage, that I practice it on a regular basis. This workshop was wonderful in that it helped me step outside myself and analyse my activities and get a better handle on the dynamics that I engage in. And much to my sub-at-the-time's pleasure/dismay (oh don’t we love those contractions), my mind went racing into a million variations on the theme!

Since then, it's been 5 years of coming up with new and innovative ways of creating predicaments. I've recreated the above mentioned Midori scene with my own variations. Other examples, just to list a few, are:
- Boy bent over with nipples in clover clamps tied to garters around thighs with caning or strap-on play. He must resist to rear up as it pulls.
- Testicles bound and tied with little slack to hands behind back, boy kneeling and having to lean forward to provide oral pleasure to me. He is conflicted between wanting to please me and feeling the strain.
- A quail egg gag set in place with eyelash glue while receiving any kind of rough, scream inducing play. Who wants raw egg in their mouth? Who wants to fail? This works well with boys with big egos ;-)

There are so many more in my bag of tricks but I'm sure you perverts have thought of 10 times more. Please share some of your clever ways of engaging in predicament bondage play or share an experience that was frightfully delightful.

- LA

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ORIGINAL: fearghus

Would work just beautifully with a humbler ;)

Or perhaps a collar attatched to the floor by a SHORT chain