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MsGenevieve -> personal training and BDSM personal training (9/6/2004 10:07:41 AM)

I was wondering who out there also puts their slaves on a physical fitness goal? Or if you are a slave, if your Mistress pushes you to better your physique not just for her own pleasure of a well sculpted slave but for the sake of your health?

It seems this whole lifestyle speaks of "safety" but neglects health and it's direct relation to safety.

Many tops don't really slave train towards goals that betters their slave in more practical aspects that carry on into the other areas of their life.

A slave that is more physically fit has a lower risk of diabetes, hyper tension, heart disease, certain cancers can be better warded off by special diets, stamina is increased, as well as mental health is greatly effected by regular exercise and a better diet and numerous other illnesses and disease.

As a slave trainer we are not supposed to just have them serving in scene...that is just topping not training. We have hold this slave as putty in our hands and can help them obtain a better life through our training.

Have you ever assisted a slave to a weightloss goal through your dominance and ownership? Do you find by taking concern in a slave's health and fitness that you have in turn started to focuss on practicing what you preach and eating better and exercising?

How else have you used your role in your slaves life to better him as a complete person and not just a slave?

Mistress Genevieve Brown-Georgiev



siamsa24 -> RE: personal training and BDSM personal training (9/6/2004 10:14:03 AM)

I have been in physical fitness training for over a year under my dom's direction. He writes up a training and diet plan for me and modifies it on a regular basis so that I keep improving. I have a copy of the original plan that he started me on if anyone is interested, although it should be noted that I was in fairly good shape from the beginning.



subbiejenn -> RE: personal training and BDSM personal training (9/6/2004 10:41:46 AM)

*giggles* i am a submissive but my Dom and i talked onetime about being "physically fit" and i want to lose some weight. Well His idea of training included a tread mill in which my collar is connected to the tread mill in such a way i can not stop or i would be choked! (Damn sadist... LOL) one was some other kind of machine that gave hard spanks if you did not bend over or something... He had other ideas also i will have to ask Him about that again, this post just reminded me of that. i will post them exactly after i speak with Him...

He is helping me with my diet (eating healthy), very encouraging but firm about me staying on it for health reasons. He is slowly but surely adding to things to make me what He feels is His perfect submissive... He worries not only about my mental but also my physical well being too.



proudsub -> RE: personal training and BDSM personal training (9/6/2004 10:42:11 AM)

Hubby doesn't "dom" me in this aspect, but we work on it together. We both follow the South Beach eating plan for our health and weight loss, and we exercise together.



MistressDREAD -> RE: personal training and BDSM personal training (9/6/2004 10:57:36 AM)

actually I do the oppisite as I come from a place
where large is concidered beautiful and I personally
prefer those whom have sum weight on them. Many
come to Me quite thin. It is true that overweight
is a sign of affluancy and comes with its own kind of
afflictions and actually is a desire in sum circles to
see such affluancey physically, but there are just as
many afflictions that can be had by those
whom are underweight or dieting and can be just as
life threatening as those mentioned by Genevieve.
Not all see sculptured bodys as attractive and a well
rounded volumpuous one is just as much a turn on and
can be just as healthy as its thinner sculptured conterpart.
Healthy does not always mean thin and physical fitness
does not always mean thin or scuptured. I am as usual
the One whom does things not the norm.Good weight
gain can be just as hard to achieve as weight loss.JMO

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LadyAngelika -> RE: personal training and BDSM personal training (9/6/2004 11:52:43 AM)

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ORIGINAL: MistressDREAD
actually I do the oppisite as I come from a place where large is concidered beautiful and I personally prefer those whom have sum weight on them.

Every man or woman I've been with has relished every single well-placed kilo on my body. I'm not a fan of skinny. In fact, most sub girls I've had have been somewhat chubby and I find that so much more attractive.

quote:

Healthy does not always mean thin and physical fitness does not always mean thin or scuptured.

I think it's all about keeping a healthy balance. I get quite a bit of exercise (I could always get more) and my diet is all about the freshest fruits, massive amounts of veggies, white meat & fish, reasonable amounts of dairy and very few starches. I'm not on any plan except for my own common sense and listening to my body.

- LA



Sundew02 -> RE: personal training and BDSM personal training (9/6/2004 11:56:42 AM)

I always watch my males diet and exercise plans. Just because I don't type it, doesn't mean I don't care about their health. And just a small bit of information, subs/slaves have health issues coming into a relationship, just like some dominants do. Sundew



NoCalOwner -> RE: personal training and BDSM personal training (9/6/2004 2:29:41 PM)

I fill mine full of vitamins and herbs, keep her informed on aspects of healthy eating, make her practice belly dancing every day (for long enough to be aerobic), and pay her dues in a fitness club.

I've liked her at every weight she's ever been, she's stricter in that way than I am. So I'm just shooting for keeping her fit and very healthy, at a weight that she feels good about herself at. Well, and selfishly ensuring that I always have a skilled household belly dancer. [;)]



velvetvixen -> RE: personal training and BDSM personal training (9/6/2004 6:39:22 PM)

I am on a monitored diet/fitness plan as directed by Master.



ScorpioMaster -> RE: personal training and BDSM personal training (9/6/2004 8:09:44 PM)

I have always to instill in the girls I have that they are not serving me if they are not taking care of themselves. This includes getting plenty of sleep, Eat right and exercise if that means they are to go for long walks. This also including mental well being writing journals about what they are going through and they must e mail them to me. I feel they are not serving you if they do not take care of themselves.



cheeba0228 -> RE: personal training and BDSM personal training (9/6/2004 8:11:22 PM)

I set my previous sub on a training regiment. For several reasons. She told me she wanted to lose weight but lacked the self discipline. So I gave her discipline. She wanted to get in better shape toplease me so I helped her along. I was working out 5 times a week then and had her do the same. I know it needed to be done just after the first time we had sex and she asked to stop an activity on her knees beause they were hurting. she had only been on her knees for 7 minutes. That was unacceptable to me so by the time she left she could kneel in a raised position for 25 minutes. She could do 100 squats in a row without a rest, and she could roll her legs while on her back till her feet touched the floor above her head. She thanked me before she left.



sub4hire -> RE: personal training and BDSM personal training (9/6/2004 9:57:02 PM)

quote:

I was wondering who out there also puts their slaves on a physical fitness goal? Or if you are a slave, if your Mistress pushes you to better your physique not just for her own pleasure of a well sculpted slave but for the sake of your health?


Most people know, well I'm assuming most people know. Anyway if I want to diet it is not going to be my Dom to push me. It will be me. If I don't want to do it for myself nobody in the world is going to push me into losing weight. If I am committed sure, I can have a workout partner or someone to just compliment me along the way. Sort of a coach.

However, in the end it has to be my desire and only my desire if I want to take weight off of my body and keep it off. Short term sure....someone could perhaps push me.
It won't stay off though.
I would assume it would be a wise idea while searching to say you are seeking an in shape person. Could elaborate the fears of diabetes..hypertension..etc..etc.



ShrewWhisperer -> RE: personal training and BDSM personal training (9/6/2004 10:53:24 PM)

I've never done such things with diet or exersise...but htat is my own enjoyment of women that look like women not little boys, but I've done it with smoking and once upon a time poor grades in school. With smoking it's a simple matter of chaining 'em up with the smokes out of reach for 18-30 hours, then taking them out to clubs , then find the nastiest person in the joint and if the slave wanted a smoke the nasty had to come back with glowing praise for her various prowesses (clearly this works with slaves who want to be shared but you could put other no-win choices in for a smoke) eventually you find someone too far over the top even for the most jaded slave..god I miss the navy guys in charleston, they were always good for the nasty side of being human....everybody in atlanta clubs is too well cleaned up.

for humliation slaves I found something on that stupid bravo show....if they have a love of certain food, have 'em eat it outside a gymn and that is the only time they can have the treat. like i said I've never tried it for diet but I put the trick on my list of dastardly things things to-do before I die list.

with grades, get a low pain flogger for rote-memerzation, like um..spelling (gee mebbe someone needs to do this with me) then whip with each letter spelled and end the scene with as intense an orgasm as you can give the slave, it was amazing how well it worked.



Estring -> RE: personal training and BDSM personal training (9/6/2004 11:12:21 PM)

I have a regimen of exercise and healthy eating for my slave. She is in pretty good shape, but wants to tone up.
I think it is important to be in decent shape if you are a slave. I would be afraid to get too intense with a slave who is in bad shape physically. Now of course I need to keep myself in good shape too. No double standard here.



WayHome -> RE: personal training and BDSM personal training (9/7/2004 5:33:14 AM)

Helping a sub to be more physically healthy can be one of the greatest gifts you can give them, on the other hand this charged subject can be dangerous grounds.

I do agree with Dread that a bit more weight than is fashionable here in America is nice. On the other hand, I am a huge fan of fitness. Healthy and strong are very important to me, give or take a few extra pounds one way or the other.

The problem is that weight is a very touchy issue for most women and espacially subs. A lot of self-exteem is involved and a lot of damage can be done if a woman feels her weight is displeasing. I'm reminded of a thread here not long ago started by a sub who was asking about healing and recovering from feeling ugly and miserable because her recent former master ridiculed her form.

Even the most trusting sub might have difficulty believing that you find them attractive if they carry a few extra pounds. For example, I have worked very hard to help my wife see herself through my eyes as a beautiful woman. Now, I would like her to get in better shape just like I am getting back in shape myself. If I make her excercise and modify her diet, I risk also sending the message that she is not attractive. I can SAY so but I risk my actions speaking louder than words.

So this is a challenge. I like challenges. I am proud of all we have accomplished and would be ever more so if we were successful in getting her more fit. This could end up being the highest expression of the power given to me, or just a big pile crap. Stay tuned.

Leto



basiasubrosa -> RE: personal training and BDSM personal training (9/7/2004 5:45:03 AM)

I am naturally on the thin side, so if anything, my ex used to tease me into eating more. (He knew that i was frustrated with the "frail little girl" image i've projected most of my life.)

On the exercise side, we both enjoyed the exhaustion and soreness, and inflicting it upon each other. He had a wrestler's upper body, but no endurance in his legs; i had a long-distance runner/hiker/cyclist's legs, but the whimpiest everything-else. So we worked on each other's weaknesses. Plus we both get cranky without sufficient activity, so it was important to make sure each was getting enough exercise.

It was a lot of fun. He was so cute all flushed and gasping for breath while trying to keep up with me; or his look of exasperation when i'd make him do another 20 pushups with my feet propped upon the small of his back. Some of the routines he made me do were really really hot. My favorite was when he'd suddenly approach me from behind and order me to lift my arms against him pushing them in. It was a surprisingly effective exercise, and so much sexier than lifting weights, since i could feel his strength restraining me, him just a few inches behind me, his breath on my neck, and his encouragement and threats right in my ear.

(For those who didn't know or couldn't tell, it was a double-switch relationship.)

Sigh, the things to miss.....



ShrewWhisperer -> RE: personal training and BDSM personal training (9/7/2004 5:56:31 AM)

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Even the most trusting sub might have difficulty believing that you find them attractive if they carry a few extra pounds. For example, I have worked very hard to help my wife see herself through my eyes as a beautiful woman. Now, I would like her to get in better shape just like I am getting back in shape myself. If I make her excercise and modify her diet, I risk also sending the message that she is not attractive. I can SAY so but I risk my actions speaking louder than words.



You're a good guy dude...in long term relationships esp. involving slavery not enough goes into the gentle ego care, glad to see guys out there managing the alan alda state of mind while still being able to ride a tarn now & then....

One way to do the weight loss thing is the next time she brings the subject up, is ask her what are her main stumbling blocks then offer to dom her over those blocks that way her ego is less at risk and she can get to where she wants to be...and you can look like a good guy, rare doms get to wear that hat :)



WayHome -> RE: personal training and BDSM personal training (9/7/2004 6:18:56 AM)

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ORIGINAL: ShrewWhisperer
glad to see guys out there managing the alan alda state of mind while still being able to ride a tarn now & then....



Dude! I just looked up your profile to see who was saying such and I hadn't really grasped the screen name before (not really paying attention). I read the first paragraph of your profile:

"As my name implies, I specialize in training rebellious submissive women. It is what I do best, bringing them to what they want but so far has yet to find a Dom who could deal with their natural brattiness, or if you like the shrew within."

And I began laughing uncontrolably. Wife wife is at another computer 4 feet away and so I read to her what made me laugh so hard. She gave me that "I don't see what's so funny, Mister." look while trying not to smerk herslef and I returned with the "I can sympathize with this." look. Her only defense was to start throwing coins at me. (She''l pay of course, but not until after we finish cooking breakfast over charcoal since our power is still out and the computers are on a really long extension from a neighbor).

j's "inner shrew" is likely to come up frequently from now on.

Leto

(edited to fix quote codes...)



NoCalOwner -> RE: personal training and BDSM personal training (9/7/2004 6:28:55 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: WayHome
The problem is that weight is a very touchy issue for most women and espacially subs. A lot of self-exteem is involved and a lot of damage can be done if a woman feels her weight is displeasing.


From time to time, when it's appropriate (won't result in indecent exposure arrests, for example), I pick a very revealing outfit for my slave and we head out for a night on the town. She then gets to observe how guys wander through the crowd at a concert, get to her, and stop in their tracks, having decided that they've found the spot with the best view. Some of the women, too, although others go by hissing and displaying their claws. By the time we leave, she no longer thinks I'm exaggerating when I tell her how hot she looks.



WayHome -> RE: personal training and BDSM personal training (9/7/2004 6:45:59 AM)

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ORIGINAL: NoCalOwner
By the time we leave, she no longer thinks I'm exaggerating when I tell her how hot she looks.


You've just hit on another important aspect of this to me. I think she's gorgeous and we don't seem to have trouble finding others who agree. Especially women, I think women are often less hung up on weight than men as long at it is not their own.

But she doesn't think she's sexy or thin enough for her own sake. This means that some activities we might otherwise enjoy get curtailed. For example, she has a bit of an exhibitionist streak but it doesn't get expressed because she doesn't think people would want to look. Now, we can dress her up in a corset and fetish gear and parade her around and jaws will drop. It's fun. Not going to work with a bikini though. Would be nice. We would also get a lot more "action" if she didn't constantly think that others "couldn't be interested" even when they are and thus even her strong sense of obedience cannot overcome her even stronger shyness. I know it has to do with appearance and not a more deep-seated psychological shyness because I have watched her behavior with others (not me) fluctuate dramatically over the last 15 years in precise correlation with her weight.

Now that I'm in school again and this week's subject is diabetes and overweight (sigh), I'm especially motivated to make it work.


Leto



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