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sirsholly -> RE: why does he want a submissive over a nilla woman (1/12/2010 5:05:24 AM)
quote: did you people ever think i do what i do because it works? 'course not. If it worked you would not be searching, now would ya?

OrionTheWolf -> RE: why does he want a submissive over a nilla woman (1/12/2010 5:09:35 AM)
Guess you missed the advice that your communication skills in a written medium need improving? If you want to be an owner, you need to take some ownership of things you can improve upon, rather than be snarky and pass over them. If you want a slave, be a man that a slave would be drawn to. ROI determines the cost of anything, try using it in your dealings with life. quote: ORIGINAL: osf quote: High maintenance? Not on what I get in return, no. i never said it wasnt worth it, i thought that would be self evident i guess i'll have to have it made into like an army maintenance comic

OrionTheWolf -> RE: why does he want a submissive over a nilla woman (1/12/2010 5:11:12 AM)
Name for which part? This is another example of needing to improve your communication skills. quote: ORIGINAL: osf quote: I have a saying, and that is "you must own a slave more than you own them, or you become a slave to that love." name for that, dom rot

osf -> RE: why does he want a submissive over a nilla woman (1/12/2010 7:33:13 AM)
dom rot is used to describe the condition of losing the ability to inflict on the sub that which the relationship requires due to becoming too in love, too lazy, loosing interest, just about any cause that has never been a problem for me lolol guess i have am innate mean streak in me that comes out on occasion

divi -> RE: why does he want a submissive over a nilla woman (1/12/2010 7:35:53 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: osf dom rot is used to describe the condition of losing the ability to inflict on the sub that which the relationship requires due to becoming too in love, too lazy, loosing interest, just about any cause that has never been a problem for me lolol guess i have am innate mean streak in me that comes out on occasion was thinking along the lines of brain dead

Aileen1968 -> RE: why does he want a submissive over a nilla woman (1/12/2010 7:49:10 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: osf dom rot is used to describe the condition of losing the ability to inflict on the sub that which the relationship requires due to becoming too in love, too lazy, loosing interest, just about any cause See...that's where your closed minded assumptions are wrong. Some people have the talent to be able to express their love in very sadistic ways. He is in love with me and I can assure you that he isn't any less sadistic or lazy and hasn't lost any interest. In fact...just the opposite. Once we realized that we loved each other, the sadism and d/s and power exchange went through the roof. Edited to add...if you have the problem of "dom rot" when you've become emotionally attached to someone then that's your character flaw. It doesn't happen to everyone.

osf -> RE: why does he want a submissive over a nilla woman (1/12/2010 8:06:49 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Aileen1968 quote: ORIGINAL: osf dom rot is used to describe the condition of losing the ability to inflict on the sub that which the relationship requires due to becoming too in love, too lazy, loosing interest, just about any cause See...that's where your closed minded assumptions are wrong. Some people have the talent to be able to express their love in very sadistic ways. He is in love with me and I can assure you that he isn't any less sadistic or lazy and hasn't lost any interest. In fact...just the opposite. Once we realized that we loved each other, the sadism and d/s and power exchange went through the roof. Edited to add...if you have the problem of "dom rot" when you've become emotionally attached to someone then that's your character flaw. It doesn't happen to everyone. it is not my term or my definition, it comes out of the gay m/s community and has been accepted by the hetro m/s community which appears not to be represented on cm so don't come at me with your sanctimony

masterofholly -> RE: why does he want a submissive over a nilla woman (1/12/2010 8:13:26 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: osf i keep hearing from all these wonderful relationship committed submissive women but have yet to hear from some of their "dominants" You are now. And I assure you I am neither pussy whipped nor non-existent. I have read some of your posts here and you come across as an uninformed wannabe who is too wrapped up in the "I am Dom, hear me roar" syndrome to realize the submissives here have some damn good advice to offer. Here is why the only one you will ever have at your feet is a duck quote: seems wanting a woman that actually obeys is a heinous crime on this site i mean real dominance and submission, what am i thinking So you want a submissive? A real one? There is one foolproof way to make that happen. BE THE TYPE OF DOMINANT A SUBMISSIVE WANTS. Real submission is not easily handed over to the first velcro-shoe-wearing asshole that gives himself the title. A true Dominant, not just a horny control freak, is a very educated individual. That education is obtained by listening to what others have to say.You said earlier a submissive cannot teach anything to a Dominant. By dismissing the opinion and experiences of the submissives on these boards you are missing out on the very information you require to be the type of Dominant a submissive will desire. .

Aileen1968 -> RE: why does he want a submissive over a nilla woman (1/12/2010 8:13:30 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: osf quote: ORIGINAL: Aileen1968 quote: ORIGINAL: osf dom rot is used to describe the condition of losing the ability to inflict on the sub that which the relationship requires due to becoming too in love, too lazy, loosing interest, just about any cause See...that's where your closed minded assumptions are wrong. Some people have the talent to be able to express their love in very sadistic ways. He is in love with me and I can assure you that he isn't any less sadistic or lazy and hasn't lost any interest. In fact...just the opposite. Once we realized that we loved each other, the sadism and d/s and power exchange went through the roof. Edited to add...if you have the problem of "dom rot" when you've become emotionally attached to someone then that's your character flaw. It doesn't happen to everyone. it is not my term or my definition, it comes out of the gay community and has been accepted by the d/s community which appears not to be represented on cm so don't come at me with your sanctimony The idea that there is even a community is your first mistake. You're the one that mentioned the term dom rot to begin with. Personally, I think you spout too much about how mean and domly you are and are actually submissive and could use a good spanking.

osf -> RE: why does he want a submissive over a nilla woman (1/12/2010 8:26:30 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Aileen1968 quote: ORIGINAL: osf quote: ORIGINAL: Aileen1968 quote: ORIGINAL: osf dom rot is used to describe the condition of losing the ability to inflict on the sub that which the relationship requires due to becoming too in love, too lazy, loosing interest, just about any cause See...that's where your closed minded assumptions are wrong. Some people have the talent to be able to express their love in very sadistic ways. He is in love with me and I can assure you that he isn't any less sadistic or lazy and hasn't lost any interest. In fact...just the opposite. Once we realized that we loved each other, the sadism and d/s and power exchange went through the roof. Edited to add...if you have the problem of "dom rot" when you've become emotionally attached to someone then that's your character flaw. It doesn't happen to everyone. it is not my term or my definition, it comes out of the gay community and has been accepted by the d/s community which appears not to be represented on cm so don't come at me with your sanctimony The idea that there is even a community is your first mistake. You're the one that mentioned the term dom rot to begin with. Personally, I think you spout too much about how mean and domly you are and are actually submissive and could use a good spanking. there is a community of like minded individuals and it's a national org called Masters and slaves together a pansexual org http://www.mast.net/

Mercnbeth -> RE: why does he want a submissive over a nilla woman (1/12/2010 8:29:36 AM)
quote: Dom-Rot??? quote: it is not my term or my definition, it comes out of the gay community and has been accepted by the d/s community which appears not to be represented on cm so don't come at me with your sanctimony Unless d/s stands for 'dumb-shits' and 'gay' is a reference to happy people living in group homes, my personal experience as well as a fool-hearty 'benefit of the doubt' web search, can not be found. Was it part of the vocabulary used by the legendary 'Old Guard' or a function of one of the newer groups like the 'European House Ancient Royal Order Of Swiss Chard'? Oaf (a spell-check error correction - coincidental?), Collecting all your threads, it's possible to create a multi volume tome of wrong information and what not to do find a relationship partner. You've alienated more people than the make-up department setting up the bar scene in 'Star Wars'. Then again - legend has it that there is a 'seat for every ass' and you qualify under that reference; a bit less archaic than 'Dom Rot'. ...Are you not entertained!?

masterofholly -> RE: why does he want a submissive over a nilla woman (1/12/2010 8:38:03 AM)
Before I hand the computer back to Hols I want to address this idiocy: quote: ORIGINAL: osf knowing how high maintenance a submissive is, why would any man prefer one to the average woman? The fact that you even ask this question tells how clueless you really are. I wanted a submissive because I am a Dominant. DUH! My real question is why you seperate a submissive from the average woman? Average woman can be submissive. Submissive woman can be average. There are many vanilla and submissive woman that are extraordinary but you need not worry yourself with that, Osf...I can't see it happening for you. What is it that separates "Ms Average American" from a submissive as far as maintainability? Nothing at all, I would guess. I think it is up to the individual tastes of the woman.

KnightofMists -> RE: why does he want a submissive over a nilla woman (1/12/2010 8:38:17 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Mercnbeth Oaf (a spell-check error correction - coincidental?), Collecting all your threads, it's possible to create a multi volume tome of wrong information and what not to do find a relationship partner. You've alienated more people than the make-up department setting up the bar scene in 'Star Wars'. HEY!!!!!!! to quote the great OAF!!!! quote: did you people ever think i do what i do because it works? Yeah.... I know... I didn't think he does it because it works either! some are just into self-abuse!

OrionTheWolf -> RE: why does he want a submissive over a nilla woman (1/12/2010 8:43:26 AM)
Actually I would not call it a character flaw, but a socially ingrained mechanism that most have to actively think about to avoid. Looking at it from a male as the owner, and a female as the slave, the Madonna/Whore complex thing impacts it quite a bit. Also, how we are taught to treat the people we love and care about, is something we learn in early childhood. So it requires either an innate morality to properly handle it, or an active change in your morality to properly handle it. Hopefully that made some sense. quote: ORIGINAL: Aileen1968 Edited to add...if you have the problem of "dom rot" when you've become emotionally attached to someone then that's your character flaw. It doesn't happen to everyone.

WinsomeDefiance -> RE: why does he want a submissive over a nilla woman (1/12/2010 8:48:19 AM)
Osf, you cantankerous old buzzard, I really wish I could help you out. Something about seeing you want something so badly, but go about sabotaging yourself and piling the abuse onto yourself, just makes me want to come to your rescue for some reason. There are times, when you really let yourself be honest with people here, that I think I understand what you are trying to say and how you are being misunderstood (although I'm uncertain if I'm not just being over generous and naive here.) OrionTheWolf, has on a couple occaisions offered you advice, that I think was spot on. Several others as well. The problems you keep running into on this board, continues to seem to be poor communication skills, and a remarkable determination to spout as much generic, random trueisms as the board will allow you to post per second. Here are some things, I would sincerely love to see you address on this site, because they are things that gave me a glimpse into a part of who you might REALLY be. You mentioned in an older post when you anguished over regret and self loathing, for things you had done. I think your experience dealing with this, would be a phenomenal thread. Assuming you could be honest and open and not defensive regarding it. You self-proclaim as a creative misogynist who loves women. Actually expounding on that, sharing how you incorporate that into your relationships, could be quite interesting. You elude to what you believe a "real" dominant/submissive relationship is, but you never really honestly speak up to share anything other than quips and one liners that only undermine your original statements. If you could bring yourself to be transparent on these boards, I think you could have a lot to offer other than being nothing more than a source of amusement for so many. I realize that you are not here to indulge me. I really don't expect you to. I just feel for you, and have this sense that there could be something of value in what you have to say - if you'd just be honest and take the time to respond in a thoughtful, non-reactive way. Just my piddly pennies, for what they are worth. WinD

osf -> RE: why does he want a submissive over a nilla woman (1/12/2010 8:49:37 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: OrionTheWolf Actually I would not call it a character flaw, but a socially ingrained mechanism that most have to actively think about to avoid. Looking at it from a male as the owner, and a female as the slave, the Madonna/Whore complex thing impacts it quite a bit. Also, how we are taught to treat the people we love and care about, is something we learn in early childhood. So it requires either an innate morality to properly handle it, or an active change in your morality to properly handle it. Hopefully that made some sense. quote: ORIGINAL: Aileen1968 Edited to add...if you have the problem of "dom rot" when you've become emotionally attached to someone then that's your character flaw. It doesn't happen to everyone. made sense to me

osf -> RE: why does he want a submissive over a nilla woman (1/12/2010 8:51:38 AM)
i keep telling you what i'm doing is working and you all are playing a part in my success, for honest to god real lolololol

persephonee -> RE: why does he want a submissive over a nilla woman (1/12/2010 8:56:05 AM)
headdesk ....if anyone coulda done it, it wouldve been winnie. We need another pancakes thread.

WinsomeDefiance -> RE: why does he want a submissive over a nilla woman (1/12/2010 8:58:20 AM)
If we are playing into your success, then I can only imagine your constant posts and drawing fire upon yourself is intentional to attract those submissives who will come to your defense and buy into your games. WinD

xxblushesxx -> RE: why does he want a submissive over a nilla woman (1/12/2010 8:59:15 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: osf dom rot is used to describe the condition of losing the ability to inflict on the sub that which the relationship requires due to becoming too in love, too lazy, loosing interest, just about any cause that has never been a problem for me lolol Then WHERE did your slave go?!! Get her back man! Quick!

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