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raj2324 -> RE: Pain vs Submission (1/13/2010 11:51:37 AM)

Pain and submission, both of them turns me on, i like to be punished, caned, spanked, whipped and i love pain while i am tied down. 



CaringandReal -> RE: Pain vs Submission (1/13/2010 5:06:28 PM)

There are a lot of things I get out of submission but one of the things I find most delicious is suffering for someone else's pleasure. There's so much that is gratifying in a pain session. Besides the feeling of sacrifice, of being a sacrifice (and the perversion of my pain turning them on), there's the heady thrill of genuine fear, the intense helplessness (I have no experience with safewords) that leads to even more intensely erotic despair, and those intimate, often humorous moments in between the pain when you're toyed with. I don't feel a direct connection between being hurt and sexual arousal, I'm usually too busy trying to deal with awfulness of the pain, but there's certainly an indirect one--given the copious and almost-instant evidence between my legs. It's always kind of shocking to have that pointed out, when I don't recall feeling anything that would have inspired such ...enthusiasm. :/ But always, after a thorough beating or other torture, I'm totally alive and ready and needy. If allowed to touch myself at those times, I can climax in a handful of seconds.

For me, pain and being controlled amplify and compliment each other. They create an intensity of feelings that neither one can create on their own.

(Don't even get me started on what humiliation adds to the mix. Sexual cocktails like that would be illegal--if the wrong people knew they existed. ;) )



littlebitxxx -> RE: Pain vs Submission (1/14/2010 1:52:31 AM)

Pain is pain and it hurts.   one does not like pain for pain's sake but pain through submission is a different thing.   Giving over the control, even through just being restrained (as in casual play outside of Master), puts one's head into a different space and allows the pain to carry her away to never-never land.   Stubbing a toe usually just ends up in cursing a blue streak.



allthatjaz -> RE: Pain vs Submission (1/14/2010 2:32:18 AM)

I'm a bit of a weird one!
Stick needles in me and I go gaga!
brand me, cut me and I feel like I am flying,
spank me and I find that really difficult to cope with.

Last night he got cross with me. He didn't get cross because I writhed and struggled when he belted me and he didn't get cross because I hung desperately round his legs and pleaded with him pathetically, He got cross because when he finished I quickly reminded him that we needed to go out and buy more butter!
The problem with me is that I will submit to the moment but once out of the moment I bounce back very quickly to just being me.... not submissive!



hardbodysub -> RE: Pain vs Submission (1/14/2010 10:36:58 AM)

I have no attraction to pain per se. However, pain becomes indirectly very exciting because she chooses to inflict it, and I have little or no choice in the matter. In that sense, I crave the pain, because it emphasizes her control over me. (Speaking hypothetically, as I am not currently in a relationship).



RCdc -> RE: Pain vs Submission (1/14/2010 10:42:07 AM)

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So what is the turn on for you pain or the submission or both?

Neither.

the.dark.



usefulidiot -> RE: Pain vs Submission (1/14/2010 11:21:24 AM)

I dont enjoy pain. I did enjoy her smile though [:)]



breatheasone -> RE: Pain vs Submission (1/14/2010 12:24:51 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Darcyandthedark

quote:

So what is the turn on for you pain or the submission or both?

Neither.

the.dark.

Where the heck have you been!? i've missed you![:)]



RCdc -> RE: Pain vs Submission (1/14/2010 12:45:06 PM)

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ORIGINAL: breatheasone

quote:

ORIGINAL: Darcyandthedark

quote:

So what is the turn on for you pain or the submission or both?

Neither.

the.dark.

Where the heck have you been!? i've missed you![:)]



*smoochies the breathing-one*



breatheasone -> RE: Pain vs Submission (1/14/2010 1:31:22 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Darcyandthedark

quote:

ORIGINAL: breatheasone

quote:

ORIGINAL: Darcyandthedark

quote:

So what is the turn on for you pain or the submission or both?

Neither.

the.dark.

Where the heck have you been!? i've missed you![:)]



*smoochies the breathing-one*
Smooches back at ya!.....(i really have missed you[:)])



breatheasone -> RE: Pain vs Submission (1/14/2010 2:51:40 PM)

Well i did talk to my Master about this, and showed Him my post.  He agreed with me that He believes they are connected. But we didn't really discuss it further[:-]



RealSub58 -> RE: Pain vs Submission (1/14/2010 3:14:48 PM)

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ORIGINAL: lally2

pain doesnt turn me on at all, not even during play - im weird like that.

but, i need to submit to it. i cant be in a Ds or Ms relationship without pain play - it brings about a cathartic calming after the struggling thing.

its also about pleasing and service to a man with a sadistic streak who enjoys making his sub/slave squirm but at the same time knows what he is asking of me and is proud of me and his control over me.




I could not say it better than you lally.



afterforever -> RE: Pain vs Submission (1/14/2010 3:21:40 PM)

Pain turns me on up to a point. Past that, it just fucking hurts.

Feeling hir control over me, knowing I'm pleasing hir, knowing that xhe is enjoying inflicting pain on me, that's always a turn on.



BalletBob -> RE: Pain vs Submission (1/14/2010 9:44:20 PM)

Pain doesn't do anything for me, but I don't mind a little, as long as it pleases the Mistress/Domme.

Now Tormenting, that is something quite different and vey YUMMY !

Nipple Tormented, sub BalletBob



jordanspet -> RE: Pain vs Submission (1/14/2010 11:40:47 PM)

Both...but the fact he enjoys it soooo much also. So his pleasure in my pain is the best part. A spanking alone turns me on....but his pleasure with my pain is the part that takes me to space. If someone else spanked me it would not be as fun or sexual...it is his spankings and his reaction to me.



Elizabeth666 -> RE: Pain vs Submission (1/15/2010 12:53:50 AM)

It's both for me. I like pain, spank me, flog me, cut me, crops etc. all turn me on, but I equally love being submissive.




catize -> RE: Pain vs Submission (1/15/2010 2:16:45 AM)

I am a masochist. But there are times when the pain is too much and I scream and cry. I like knowing that he is in control enough that it doesn't matter that I am not enjoying the pain but will endure it for him. In some ways that satisfies me on a deeper level, which leads me to conclude it is submission that 'turns me on' the most.



BoundDragon -> RE: Pain vs Submission (1/15/2010 2:45:49 PM)

I like this thread a lot!!!
Ive been away from the board for awhile (letting health issues get the better of me) but this thread really got me focused again, thank you.

For me there are times when pain is simply that but if my mind is ticking in the right way (which is most of the time) then for me it is directly linked to submission and sir's dominance over me.
I ache to feel the sting of his belt and his teeth on my flesh.
He has not taken it too far as yet as I'm a really noisy sod and privacy is an issue right now.
My problem is that being sensory trained even the slightest breeze across my skin can set me off so the harder stuff is like an overload (but a sweet one none-the-less) I would love to see how far I can take it and how far sir would be prepared to take it with me too. 



lapgirl -> RE: Pain vs Submission (1/18/2010 10:27:01 AM)

for me it is all about the submission... i actually have a more difficult time surrendering to pleasure at his hands than pain. Although my body has an interesting way of responding to some types of pain, most of the time it just hurts and i will just cry. But i am satisfied in knowing that i have pleased him for submitting to what he desires of me at that moment.



Delphinus -> RE: Pain vs Submission (1/18/2010 11:52:36 AM)

The submission is what it is for me. We don't do too much with pain. But if there is pain, it's not so much the hurt that I love. It's how I feel the second the painful part is over. Once I know I'm done and I've endured, I feel incredibly warm and all servicey-like. And I love feeling my body hurt for some time after.



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