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Forced bi... Question for malesubs... - 9/6/2004 3:05:11 PM

MistressZanthia

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Since it was brought up here and I am curious...

Why do sub males who list themselves as "straight" or "hetero"... check off the "forced bi" or say they want it?

Is this a "I believe "it" makes me more desirable to a Domme" thing?

Is it an honest fantasy/fetish that one wants to fulfill?
And if so, do you think it's possible that by golly you might actually be bi? Or even gay and just wanting female approval/permission to go out and do it?

Because this has been my experience:
I've talked with many who say that they really don't have a desire to do it, but they put it on their profiles for "appeal". - Guess what? Those who do this, it doesn't appeal to all of us, and it may be a smaller percentage you're appealing to. Ever consider that?

I've talked with many who say they would only do it if their Mistress ordered it. Well I was the "Mistress" in a few of these scenarios and after giving permission or ordering them to do it once, they didn't feel they needed my approval anymore and started pursuing males on their own accord. So I have met a few closeted gays this way.

I've talked with many who put it on their profiles also, said they wanted it, but when pressed called it a hard limit. Which is fine with me, I really don't desire it at all. I DO NOT SHARE WELL WITH OTHERS.

Why lie on your profiles boys? What is the appeal about forced bi? And why do you feel you need a woman to make it facilitate it for you? If you really want to suck cock, just go do it, you have my permission already. Stop wasting time with us ladies and just admit who and what you are.

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RE: Forced bi... Question for malesubs... - 9/6/2004 4:24:19 PM

subdreams1955

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Zan wrote:

quote:

Since it was brought up here and I am curious...

Why do sub males who list themselves as "straight" or "hetero"... check off the "forced bi" or say they want it?

Is this a "I believe "it" makes me more desirable to a Domme" thing?

That’s part of it, I guess. Frankly, I don’t give a rat’s ass either way. I’ll do it, and have done so, to please my Domme. But it really doesn’t turn my crank. I won’t go out and seek a homosexual encounter. If she wants it, well, it’s no skin off my nose.

quote:

Is it an honest fantasy/fetish that one wants to fulfill?
And if so, do you think it's possible that by golly you might actually be bi? Or even gay and just wanting female approval/permission to go out and do it?

Nope – it’s just something I do. I don’t have a burning or latent desire to clean toilets either. But I will for a FemDom who requires it as part of my service to her. I’ve run into many FemDoms who feel MonM sex is hot. (I’ve run into more who REALLY want their bathrooms cleaned *smile*).

The idea of service, to me, is to do what pleases my FemDom. If that includes MonM sex – so be it. If I go to my grave without MonM sex, I won’t be spinning six feet down.

The point is: If it pleases my lady, I’ll do it. If it doesn’t, I won’t.

quote:

Because this has been my experience:
I've talked with many who say that they really don't have a desire to do it, but they put it on their profiles for "appeal". - Guess what? Those who do this, it doesn't appeal to all of us, and it may be a smaller percentage you're appealing to. Ever consider that?

I've talked with many who say they would only do it if their Mistress ordered it. Well I was the "Mistress" in a few of these scenarios and after giving permission or ordering them to do it once, they didn't feel they needed my approval anymore and started pursuing males on their own accord. So I have met a few closeted gays this way.

That’s your experience and I can’t argue with it. I would not take that tack.

quote:

I DO NOT SHARE WELL WITH OTHERS.

That’s your perogative. You are the FemDom.

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Why lie on your profiles boys?

I don’t. I try to be as honest as possible. I’ve spent many years denying my BDSM sexuality. I won’t come here (or the other site, or my RL connexions) continuing that pattern.

I’m sorry you’ve had those experiences, Zan, but we aren’t all punched out of a cookie cutter. We’re individuals and, trying as that may be, we each have to be judged on our own merits.

Respectfully,
D

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RE: Forced bi... Question for malesubs... - 9/7/2004 2:27:12 PM

Questing4Aldonza

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I don't lie in my profile either. I assumed that if I marked something off as an "interest," I should be willing to perform said task with a genuine eagerness and enthusiasm. That's why I didn't go checking off everything willy-nilly. Doesn't mean I won't do anything else, just that those particular tasks are of particular "interest" to me.

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ORIGINAL: subdreams1955

The point is: If it pleases my lady, I’ll do it. If it doesn’t, I won’t.

That pretty much sums up my philosophy as well, although in the specific case of "forced bi" my lady would have to do a LOT of coaxing to get me to even consider it. That's definitely on the outer edge of my limits.

Which is precisely why I didn't list it as an "interest."

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RE: Forced bi... Question for malesubs... - 9/7/2004 5:53:48 PM

sting516

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Ms Zanthia,

Forced bi is one of the things i checked off because, if a Domme i trusted wanted to see that, i'd do it...in all my 43 years, i've never wanted to fuck or suck a man, nor have i ever desired a man to fuck or suck me...that said, if i was serving a Domme who wanted to see me suck a cock for her pleasure, i'd do it...if she wanted him to fuck me in the ass, i'd do it...i doubt i'd be able to fuck a man in the ass though...just can't see myself getting hard for man ass...as some may have noticed from some of my other posts...i find being put in degrading situations hot...and though i'm sure there are many who would have qualms about my calling sex with another man degrading...i think of it as so...that said, i feel i'm still accurate in calling myself straight on my profile.

As always, your mileage may vary.

sting

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RE: Forced bi... Question for malesubs... - 9/8/2004 8:02:10 PM

MistressZanthia

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Sorry I haven't been back to read your responses gentlemen, I am moving this week and I am really pressed for time. I will be back to check on this thread in about a week. Wish me luck, SEATTLE HERE I CUM!!!

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RE: Forced bi... Question for malesubs... - 9/9/2004 1:55:04 AM

subdreams1955

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quote:

ORIGINAL: MistressZanthia

Wish me luck, SEATTLE HERE I CUM!!!

Good luck Mistress. I hope you have lots of umbrellas

Respectfully,
Derek

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RE: Forced bi... Question for malesubs... - 9/9/2004 1:32:30 PM

yoursMaam

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Dear Mistress Zanthia,
i hope that Your move went well, and that You are settling in comfortably.
In answer to Your question, i actually don't recall if i checked that box or not. as a male, slut, horndog male, along with about 90% of us, one of my fantasies is a female on female scene. if this made a Mistress as excited as it makes me, i would participate, although i would prefer straight hetero activity, and would prefer to find other ways to appeal to Mistress' fantasies.
i have heard of this method being used to break the will of an arrogant slave, and i imagine that it could serve that purpose well. i had always wondered if doing that was wise, as the attraction to a spirited slave would seem to be his spirit in the first place.
Just my humble opinion,

Yours Ma'am

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RE: Forced bi... Question for malesubs... - 9/9/2004 4:11:09 PM

proudsub

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quote:

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ORIGINAL: MistressZanthia

Wish me luck, SEATTLE HERE I CUM!!!

Good luck Mistress. I hope you have lots of umbrellas

Ahhhhhh it never rains here in Seattle. LOL, just Oct-June.

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RE: Forced bi... Question for malesubs... - 9/11/2004 10:43:14 PM

MistressZanthia

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Thank you boys for your thought provoking responses. I appreciate it... and proudsub, it's fall... if it rains like crazy in Idaho where I come from in the fall... I know I am in for it here. LOL... thanks for the welcomes.

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RE: Forced bi... Question for malesubs... - 9/13/2004 9:09:40 PM

knees2you

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MistressZanthia,
I believe alot of Guys feel that a Domme would want them to
try that at some point or time, and so they list that.
Whether they really want that or would like that Well~~~~ {he he}

Sincerely, eyesofAslave~

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RE: Forced bi... Question for malesubs... - 9/20/2004 9:04:16 PM

CuckoIdsIave

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i dont have it checked off on this profile, but do on other sites. for me 1 its to say that im open to it or anything that the Domme desires, even if its not something i desire, or want. 2 for myself i know id not like it, but the idea of being forced to do something like it or not by a Domme, is a major turn on. its kind of like getting raped i guess. i was molested as a child, when i first got raped in the ass it hurt like hell, yet later on i tended to crave the pain, yet because im not into men i have not dared to seek it. if a Lady can do it, then why cant a male? for me ill never go out and have sex with men on my own, its just not me, but if forced well...

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RE: Forced bi... Question for malesubs... - 7/13/2005 3:18:49 AM

lonewolf05

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i have NO answer for others. myself i am straight as a new arrow.
but!
i HAVE performed bi for my 1st Ms. didn't like it. didn't want it. but it didn't MAKE me bi either. no harm was done. so IF a MS i am with ever asks.......ok, i'll do it. but i won't like ya for it either.

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RE: Forced bi... Question for malesubs... - 12/29/2005 7:37:18 PM

hairslave

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Not into Bi my self but being new to this, if conset is exsercised, how would it be forced Bi ? If i don't ask i'd never undrstand. Thanks. Sincerly.

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RE: Forced bi... Question for malesubs... - 12/29/2005 8:31:15 PM

michaelGA

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i don't know about other sub men, but there's no way this or any lifetime that i would ever submit to "forced bi". i don't like men at all...not even in the real world. if i ever got lucky enough to get into a scene and a male walks in...i would call for an end to the scene.

just my .02 worth

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RE: Forced bi... Question for malesubs... - 12/29/2005 10:10:50 PM

veronicaofML

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tobe honest..i have no idea what You are talking about.
i myself resent forced anything..
and i hate..being within 3 feet of any male.

i have been,.,,forced into it...and i still resent it..

as to the the issues YOU have had?

i have zero answers.
i wish i knew.
i cannot imagine---seeking out...let alone being...with a male...ARGH!

disgusting.........

take care

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RE: Forced bi... Question for malesubs... - 12/30/2005 7:44:22 PM

hairslave

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quote:

ORIGINAL: michaelGA

i don't know about other sub men, but there's no way this or any lifetime that i would ever submit to "forced bi". i don't like men at all...not even in the real world. if i ever got lucky enough to get into a scene and a male walks in...i would call for an end to the scene.

just my .02 worth

i agree and would make quick use of the door to eles where.

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RE: Forced bi... Question for malesubs... - 12/31/2005 1:33:32 AM

mons

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i find that many of the profile that i read of the ones who write me do have this force bi in the profiles and i write back stating this is not something i want or desire to do to my sub males and they have the nerve to say i am not bi but they put this in there so open. i have nothing against bi or or what ever they choose but i would like just a submissive male how follow my lead and oh please no asking me to force you to do something you want anyway i think they are hidden bisexula males who want this. i turn all down who have this in the profile it is my choose not to force someone to do something, they i think wish to be with males anyway, they tell me i just want to d what my mistress tells me, well guys how do you know i will tell you to do this ???????? do not assmue this is the thing all dommes do guys it is a turn off for me. many say it is a form of punishment that the dommes well give out , really?????????

mons

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RE: Forced bi... Question for malesubs... - 12/31/2005 1:36:48 PM

iwearpanties

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This is a great questiion too ask of a sub male . i know deep in my heart im not gay or bi but when ive dressed in females thing for many yrs . which is my fetish that led me into subbing and beigna sub male . i think once your intoa certain state or submission your willng too try things that are not normal or sahll i say pushing the limts . i think most subs males that is not sure about females sub but i think the id of humiliation infornt of other males weather ythere Dom or sub crosses the subs mind when submmitng

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RE: Forced bi... Question for malesubs... - 12/31/2005 1:39:24 PM

iwearpanties

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im sorry after read my post o notice my spelling errors please for give for them ill check closer next time

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RE: Forced bi... Question for malesubs... - 1/1/2006 6:44:09 PM

hairslave

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quote:

ORIGINAL: iwearpanties

im sorry after read my post o notice my spelling errors please for give for them ill check closer next time

Don't worry about my judging on spelling. i'm a poor speller. As to forced Bi,... the profiles i saw were of F/Dom/Dommes listting it as a requirement for sub males to subment to.

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