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Is any of our income tax ever used for humanitarian aid? - 1/14/2010 6:48:23 PM

MzMia

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Does any of our ever increasing income tax money ever go for
humanatarian aid?

Seriously, many people pay close to 50% of their income in taxes.
Than every time something happens or another disaster, it appears
that we need to give more.

I am NOT saying I mind giving or that people should not give.
I am touched by the outpouring of humanitarian aid being sent to Haiti.
Why the hell isn't a little bit of my hard earned tax money going for
humanatarian aid?
Just take $20 out of my federal taxes and send the money to Haiti.
Well, I guess welfare is humanatarian aid right?

What pisses me off is the fact that most of the money that I pay in taxes
is going to fund issues, activities and projects that I often don't believe in.

Federal income taxes, state income taxes, property taxes, sales taxes, surcharges,
taxes, taxes, taxes, and more damn taxes.

Everytime something happens in the world there is no money for it.
Where the hell is our tax money going?

OH I have got it now!
Our tax money will be used to create jobs!

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RE: Is any of our income tax ever used for humanitarian... - 1/14/2010 6:50:28 PM

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You must be kidding...

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RE: Is any of our income tax ever used for humanitarian... - 1/14/2010 6:51:37 PM

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What pisses me off is how much of our income tax is going towards the military budget and towards paying for companies like Blackwater. Whatever's going towards catatrophe relief/humanitarian aid is not even a drop in that ocean: personally, I wish more money went towards those things rather than funding the military and buying stupid weapons. But I'm weird, that way.

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RE: Is any of our income tax ever used for humanitarian... - 1/14/2010 6:55:23 PM

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Huh? taxes? Slaves pay taxes!~

Besides didnt someone declare open season on mooooslims?

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RE: Is any of our income tax ever used for humanitarian... - 1/14/2010 7:02:25 PM

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Mia, you don't want to "help out" the lobbyists who need a $600 pair of aligator shoes? Or the new $89K Mercedes "S" class?

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RE: Is any of our income tax ever used for humanitarian... - 1/14/2010 7:04:28 PM

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Tax dollars should be going toward education. End of story.

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RE: Is any of our income tax ever used for humanitarian... - 1/14/2010 7:06:10 PM

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Mia, the problem goes much further than that.

Indeed, there is quite a bit of foreign aid that is supported through taxes. Whether that aid actually makes it to the intended recipients is something else. When Saddam was overthrown, there was a lot of US-supplied food intended for his peasants, discovered rotting in his palace...

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RE: Is any of our income tax ever used for humanitarian... - 1/14/2010 7:06:41 PM

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Mia, you don't want to "help out" the lobbyists who need a $600 pair of aligator shoes? Or the new $89K Mercedes "S" class?

That's right, Congress is scheduled for a raise, even in this economic climate.
I think they should REFUSE the raise on principal!
WashingtonWatch.com - H.R. 156, The Stop the Congressional Pay Raise Act
I think they are among the handful of people getting a raise.

I would feel better if I could allocate just .05% of what I pay in taxes,
to go where I want it to go.
Just .05%, I dare not ask for more.

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RE: Is any of our income tax ever used for humanitarian... - 1/14/2010 7:07:41 PM

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Tax dollars should be going toward education. End of story.

And who is gonna pay the cops to arrest the little bastards when the figure out how to go to wall street and rip the US public off again.

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RE: Is any of our income tax ever used for humanitarian... - 1/14/2010 7:41:19 PM

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Mia, the problem goes much further than that.

Indeed, there is quite a bit of foreign aid that is supported through taxes. Whether that aid actually makes it to the intended recipients is something else. When Saddam was overthrown, there was a lot of US-supplied food intended for his peasants, discovered rotting in his palace...

Steven, that's true. I don't think anyone is opposed to "Humanitarian aid" like for Haiti now or for the Tsunami disaster.
The thing that is totally corrupt is the long term institutionalized foreign aid programs that never seem to end.
The problem is that there are too many people and companies making money off of them.
Jim Rogers who's often on the business channel took a year off and rode his harley all over the world through something like 92 countries.
When they asked him if he thought "foreign aid" was doing any good around the world he said "no!"
"The only ones helped by foreign aid are the lawyers and lobbyists in Washington who help foreign countries get that aid out of our people, the govts in those countries who get it, not their people, big corporations, and the Mercedes Benz dealers and there's a Mercedes Benz dealer in every single country in the world!" He said he'd do "very little if any" foreign aid if he were president.
I talked to someone about it at the State Dept 15 years ago and he assured me that countries on it will "graduate off of foreign aid"
I wonder how many countries have "graduated" in the last 15 years?

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RE: Is any of our income tax ever used for humanitarian... - 1/14/2010 7:46:39 PM

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Popeye, that was a great post.

One of the problems with Haiti is that not only do they desperatly need aid immediatly.
They need "aid" for the long term.
They need assistance in building decent homes instead of the ramshackle shanties.

I hope to goodness, they don't rebuild those shanties!

Haitians need help now and for the long haul.
And as poor as that country is, they need serious help for years to come.
Wouldn't it be nice to see a country lifted out of abject and extreme poverty?
Maybe this horrific tragedy, will be the chance for Haiti to be turned around.

Despite Years of Crushing Poverty, Hope Grows in Haiti | PBS NewsHour | Jan. 11, 2010 | PBS

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RE: Is any of our income tax ever used for humanitarian... - 1/14/2010 8:05:23 PM

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You GOT to be kidding me!

Azzhole congress wants a raise?

FUCK THAT!

As far at your question- there is an emergency fund that is a revolving fund.

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RE: Is any of our income tax ever used for humanitarian... - 1/14/2010 8:05:44 PM

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While the tragedy in Haiti is horrible and certainly that country is in serious need of help, the fact that the impoverished of this country still don't get the aid they need bothers me more. "Charity begins at home." People who desperately need assistance in this country, instead of being able to get it are usually called "lazy" and told they are just trying to "live off the government." Yes, many people do rip off the system, but when our education system sucks and people are having trouble keeping a roof over their heads and feeding their families right here in the states, I think that those issues here should be taken care of before sending "aid" to other places.

ETA - I know that isn't a very popular opinion, but when I see celebrities and government all talking about how there are starving children in this country or that one or this country doesn't have decent housing or is overpopulated while there are people living in those kinds of conditions right under their own noses in the US, it seems wrong to let it happen to the citizens of our own country and go help other countries instead.

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RE: Is any of our income tax ever used for humanitarian... - 1/14/2010 8:13:01 PM

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You have a point Lady, and as our economy spirals down into
the toilet, the day may soon come that Americans are asking
for other countries to send money and assistance to us.
Hell we might NOT turn down assistance from Cuba next time!

I can see the ads now, $3 a day will provide rice and beans for
a starving American child so he/she can eat.

We may start having more "Save and feed starving and unemployed American concerts".
It is not a stretch at all.

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RE: Is any of our income tax ever used for humanitarian... - 1/14/2010 8:18:45 PM

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Oh, we've poured quite a bit of money and effort into Haiti over the years, Mia.

Have a peek at Ted Rall's column on the subject

The blood is on our hands

I don't agree with Ted's take on much, but he's almost always interesting.

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RE: Is any of our income tax ever used for humanitarian... - 1/14/2010 8:23:15 PM

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Oh, we've poured quite a bit of money and effort into Haiti over the years, Mia.

Have a peek at Ted Rall's column on the subject

The blood is on our hands

I don't agree with Ted's take on much, but he's almost always interesting.

Egads, I am not surprised.
Haiti to me has long been seen as just a sad poor country.
Haiti actually has a fairly interesting history, maybe this recent
tragedy will keep the light/and interest in helping this country get
on its feet.
I like this story, Haiti has always seemed like a sad little country.
The Sad History of Haiti | NBC New York

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RE: Is any of our income tax ever used for humanitarian... - 1/14/2010 8:27:51 PM

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Does any of our ever increasing income tax money ever go for humanatarian aid?

Way more than I am comfortable with gets paid out as foreign aid each year. Whether you consider that humanitarian aid or not is in the eye of the beholder. Too bad one of the side effects of an earthquake isn't the H1N1 virus. We could pack up all the jillions of doses of vaccine that are left over after the swine flu hoax and send it on down.

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RE: Is any of our income tax ever used for humanitarian... - 1/14/2010 8:48:22 PM

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ORIGINAL: DomImus

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ORIGINAL: MzMia
Does any of our ever increasing income tax money ever go for humanatarian aid?

Way more than I am comfortable with gets paid out as foreign aid each year. Whether you consider that humanitarian aid or not is in the eye of the beholder. Too bad one of the side effects of an earthquake isn't the H1N1 virus. We could pack up all the jillions of doses of vaccine that are left over after the swine flu hoax and send it on down.

i can agree with that.

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RE: Is any of our income tax ever used for humanitarian... - 1/14/2010 8:49:57 PM

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Tax dollars should be going toward education. End of story.

And who is gonna pay the cops to arrest the little bastards when the figure out how to go to wall street and rip the US public off again.

Okay...education, education, and a strong military. ^_^ Irregardless of what we do, there will always be scumbags like Obama who're going to try and push this country down the wrong direction. Should we send police after him too?

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RE: Is any of our income tax ever used for humanitarian... - 1/14/2010 8:58:37 PM

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Popeye, that was a great post.

One of the problems with Haiti is that not only do they desperatly need aid immediatly.
They need "aid" for the long term.
They need assistance in building decent homes instead of the ramshackle shanties.

I hope to goodness, they don't rebuild those shanties!

Haitians need help now and for the long haul.
And as poor as that country is, they need serious help for years to come.
Wouldn't it be nice to see a country lifted out of abject and extreme poverty?
Maybe this horrific tragedy, will be the chance for Haiti to be turned around.

Despite Years of Crushing Poverty, Hope Grows in Haiti | PBS NewsHour | Jan. 11, 2010 | PBS

Mia, we've been giving them aid for a very long time.
Every country in the Carribean is getting foreign aid from us and this has been going on for decades.
When does it end? Haiti and all countries need to start doing for themselves! They need to stop expecting the U.S. to "do" for them.
What do we do, build houses "for" them while Haitians stand around watching us?
Foreign aid is something I just don't want my govt. involved in in the first place. It fosters dependance and corruption and Layfayettelady is right, we have plenty of people in the U.S. who should be getting that help and they are "entitled" to it as U.S. Citizens.
There are 6 billion people in the world and most of them are poor, it's not the job of U.S. Taxpayers to make them "un-poor."

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