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ORIGINAL: LadyPact

Let's take a look at the abstract for a moment.  Since part of the concept is about training as well, I'm going to suggest that the whole moderation business that has happened within the course of this thread, to go along with that same person's theories, now makes him more feminine by his own description.  (This is not what I believe.  I'm using the illustration to prove otherwise.)

Parallel the desire to actively contribute to these boards with the desire to participate in a female led D/s relationship.  In both cases, a standard of behavior was set.  This standard for CM's rules, or protocols, if you will, is TOS.  Just in the same way that the protocols, or rules for behavior by the submissive in the dynamic is set down by the Dominant.  When willful disobedience to comply with these protocols was evidenced, a privilege was withdrawn, in addition to the communication provided as to why.  Very much like those of us in authority would do with our submissive was willfully disobedient within a dynamic.  I won't go as far as to say it is a punishment, but when we want to convey that a behavior isn't acceptable for our submissive, a good number of us communicate the desired behavior, and then alter a circumstance so that the behavior that we want is acheived.

That could very well be said is what is happening here.  In a sense, the poster on moderation has submitted to the protocols of the D/s dynamic which is participation on the CM forums, controlled by our wonderful 'Dominant' Alpha.  Rather than the flaming, attacking posts that were not acceptable (watch the list above), he has submitted and changed his approach.  He is now cooperative in holding the discussion at hand.  He is now dependent on Alpha's approval of what he writes, if he would like it to be seen by the CM public.  He is incapable of changing the situation until such authority removes the moderated status and will have to remain passive in his approach until his probationary period is up.

Does this make the writer of those words more feminine?  Of course it doesn't.  It merely makes him a man who wants to continue his situation where someone, who happens to be female, has the authority.

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ORIGINAL: OttersSwim

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ORIGINAL: LadyPact

Let's take a look at the abstract for a moment.  Since part of the concept is about training as well, I'm going to suggest that the whole moderation business that has happened within the course of this thread, to go along with that same person's theories, now makes him more feminine by his own description.  (This is not what I believe.  I'm using the illustration to prove otherwise.)

Parallel the desire to actively contribute to these boards with the desire to participate in a female led D/s relationship.  In both cases, a standard of behavior was set.  This standard for CM's rules, or protocols, if you will, is TOS.  Just in the same way that the protocols, or rules for behavior by the submissive in the dynamic is set down by the Dominant.  When willful disobedience to comply with these protocols was evidenced, a privilege was withdrawn, in addition to the communication provided as to why.  Very much like those of us in authority would do with our submissive was willfully disobedient within a dynamic.  I won't go as far as to say it is a punishment, but when we want to convey that a behavior isn't acceptable for our submissive, a good number of us communicate the desired behavior, and then alter a circumstance so that the behavior that we want is acheived.

That could very well be said is what is happening here.  In a sense, the poster on moderation has submitted to the protocols of the D/s dynamic which is participation on the CM forums, controlled by our wonderful 'Dominant' Alpha.  Rather than the flaming, attacking posts that were not acceptable (watch the list above), he has submitted and changed his approach.  He is now cooperative in holding the discussion at hand.  He is now dependent on Alpha's approval of what he writes, if he would like it to be seen by the CM public.  He is incapable of changing the situation until such authority removes the moderated status and will have to remain passive in his approach until his probationary period is up.

Does this make the writer of those words more feminine?  Of course it doesn't.  It merely makes him a man who wants to continue his situation where someone, who happens to be female, has the authority.

Post of the Year Award 

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And though many crossdressers will interpret this as a slight against them, what they fail to realise is that the sheer amount of "please Miss, do me like a girl" far outweighs the "I'd like to be a gentleman to server you" posts.

I wrote in my OP: I call it "forced masculinity" to sort of counterbalance this incredibly huge demand for forced feminization.

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ORIGINAL: cloudboy
Why did you have to start an oppositional thread? Why the need for the polemic?

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ORIGINAL: VaguelyCurious

I'm English, so I have never heard the catfood advert that goes 'meow meow meow...'

But if you have I bet you're humming it right now.

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ORIGINAL: Psychonaut23
On the BEM Sex Role Inventory, I score 80% Masculine, 43% Feminine, and 51% androgynous, making me more Masculine than anything else, but still with strong feminine and androgynous traits.  Test yourself, see where you come down.

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ORIGINAL: Lucienne

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ORIGINAL: VaguelyCurious

I'm English, so I have never heard the catfood advert that goes 'meow meow meow...'

But if you have I bet you're humming it right now.

Lol. You wicked woman.

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ORIGINAL: RedMagic1

I have struck a blow for song-in-your-head equality!

-- TestosteroneOozingDom

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ORIGINAL: Psychonaut23

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ORIGINAL: InvisibleBlack
Evidence, please.

The entire canon of western literature, starting with the story of Genesis and continuing up to Bridget Jones' Diary.  I mean seriously man, you're asking for evidence for something that is a basic assumption in literary studies, in feminism, in sociology, etc.  If you really need me to provide evidence for this then I would suggest you're simply not prepared to be involved in a serious discussion of this subject, and need to adopt a student mind rather than trying to argue from a position of gross ignorance.  I don't mean that as an insult, it's just that you've essentially asked me to write a dissertation for you.  And I'm not a professor.  You want that kind of work from me, you'll have to pay for the privilege.

...  The early Disney princesses, Snow White, Cinderella and especially Sleeping Beauty are all extremely feminine archetypes.

Very feminine characters tend to be rare in fiction and literature, usually playing an exceedingly minor role -- the damsel in distress is the classic archtype, but true damsels in distress are rarely seen anymore, not since the advent of feminism.  Someone more familiar with Victorian literature than I am could probably cite numerous examples.  Jane Austen characters seem a good place to look.  I've never read Emma or seen any of the adaptations, but I've seen Clueless (a modern take on Emma), and the Alicia Silverstone character is very feminine.

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ORIGINAL: VaguelyCurious

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ORIGINAL: RedMagic1

I have struck a blow for song-in-your-head equality!

-- TestosteroneOozingDom

Yeah,  but I only watched the link you sent me once through, and if I'm honest I have forgotten how it goes already, whereas you guys have had a much higher exposure...

:-P

DW, I'll change the tag; I don't want to get cyber-lynched by a mob of angry Americans.

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ORIGINAL: Psychonaut23

Now, of the two of them, Wilson is far more the gentleman.  And this is not entirely surprising, as a gentleman is more feminine than a roughneck.  Hence the gentle in the word.  Gentleness being a feminine quality.

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ORIGINAL: Lockit

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ORIGINAL: VaguelyCurious

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ORIGINAL: RedMagic1

I have struck a blow for song-in-your-head equality!

-- TestosteroneOozingDom

Yeah,  but I only watched the link you sent me once through, and if I'm honest I have forgotten how it goes already, whereas you guys have had a much higher exposure...

:-P

DW, I'll change the tag; I don't want to get cyber-lynched by a mob of angry Americans.

ROFL laughing at the signature line! OMG... keep it, at least for a lil while!

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ORIGINAL: VaguelyCurious
The old one, or the new one? Because personally, I like the new one better. But we're hijacking here, which is bad. :(

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ORIGINAL: VaguelyCurious

The old one, or the new one? Because personally, I like the new one better. But we're hijacking here, which is bad. :(

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ORIGINAL: RedMagic1

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ORIGINAL: VaguelyCurious
The old one, or the new one? Because personally, I like the new one better. But we're hijacking here, which is bad. :(

I *love* your new sig line.  It cracked me up, and got me hot at the same time.  Does that make me masculiner or femininer?

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ORIGINAL: Politesub53

Blow me ( not literally but I`m open to offers Ladies ) I missed the link to Clueless and suggested you should read Emma, maybe you missed a bit or are just...clueless.

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ORIGINAL: Psychonaut23

I prefer women who have a blend of feminine and masculine traits.  I myself have a blend of feminine and masculine traits, just like most people.  On the BEM Sex Role Inventory, I score 80% Masculine, 43% Feminine, and 51% androgynous, making me more Masculine than anything else, but still with strong feminine and androgynous traits.  Test yourself, see where you come down.