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RE: NASA Caught in Climate Data Manipulation; New Revel... - 1/16/2010 10:54:25 AM   
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You mean the experts - pundits that are paid?


I mean people who spend their life gaining a formal education, learning, researching, publishing, and fact checking... not pundits



The article says the data for the temps was detstroyed.

considering how important it was supposed to be- why is yet another batch of data destroyed?

That is what happend at East Anglia U.

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RE: NASA Caught in Climate Data Manipulation; New Revel... - 1/16/2010 10:54:46 AM   
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Status: offline 		We may be splitting hairs here. A TV station did pay him to produce a "documentary". If an airline asks me to fly a 747 to Miami, I guess that makes me a pilot, even if we never get to Miami.

Yer welcome. *s*

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RE: NASA Caught in Climate Data Manipulation; New Revel... - 1/16/2010 11:06:49 AM   
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RE: NASA Caught in Climate Data Manipulation; New Revel... - 1/16/2010 11:18:04 AM   
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Status: offline 		I looked him up on google scholar... that site does not help his credibility by posting his work... If I were him I would demand they take it down. I would not want my work posted on such a site

And I shouldn't have to go out of my way to provide credentials for your expert.... google is your friend.

And I am sorry this was moved because it isn't random stupidity.



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RE: NASA Caught in Climate Data Manipulation; New Revel... - 1/16/2010 11:25:23 AM   
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We may be splitting hairs here. A TV station did pay him to produce a "documentary". If an airline asks me to fly a 747 to Miami, I guess that makes me a pilot, even if we never get to Miami.

Yer welcome. *s*



Many people in my field are journalists too

And if we contributed to the "Globe" we would get judged for that by our colleagues


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RE: NASA Caught in Climate Data Manipulation; New Revel... - 1/16/2010 1:28:31 PM   
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ORIGINAL: juliaoceania

I looked him up on google scholar... that site does not help his credibility by posting his work... If I were him I would demand they take it down. I would not want my work posted on such a site

And I shouldn't have to go out of my way to provide credentials for your expert.... google is your friend.

And I am sorry this was moved because it isn't random stupidity.




deprogram has had many good leads on breaking stories.  I doubt he can make them pull it even if he wanted to.

Often the "tin foil" site will have stories months before main media has them.

I know you disagree.   But as I observe- there is more then meets the eye per ground breaking news.

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RE: NASA Caught in Climate Data Manipulation; New Revel... - 1/16/2010 3:14:36 PM   
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Status: offline 		The thing to do, if I were you, is to get leads from sites like that and use google on any article contributors that you find... like I said, even a broken clock is right twice a day... check to make sure you aren't being fed what is 99% bullshit. Just some friendly advice, and I do mean it kindly! I have used those types of sites to get info... but I checked it really well before I shared it, and I shared the more mainstream sources for it...

People take you more seriously if you do, for example if you had went and sourced this before posting it, it would still be in the politics section. BTW, this dude even acknowledges there is global warming, his theory is based on solar causes...


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RE: NASA Caught in Climate Data Manipulation; New Revel... - 1/16/2010 3:51:50 PM   
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replying to myself...




I find myself doing that more and more, julia.

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RE: NASA Caught in Climate Data Manipulation; New Revel... - 1/16/2010 4:28:37 PM   
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This is just pure hooey...everyone knows that Barack Obama directly manipulated the climate using socialist technology from his Fortress of Solitude in Kenya...it was there that he was born in a test tube and smuggled into the United States by socialist forces...he is his own sleeper cell, yea...forged all of his own documents too...yea, when he was 3...

Come Mr. Bigglesworth!




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RE: NASA Caught in Climate Data Manipulation; New Revel... - 1/16/2010 4:35:42 PM   
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ORIGINAL: juliaoceania

The thing to do, if I were you, is to get leads from sites like that and use google on any article contributors that you find... like I said, even a broken clock is right twice a day... check to make sure you aren't being fed what is 99% bullshit. Just some friendly advice, and I do mean it kindly! I have used those types of sites to get info... but I checked it really well before I shared it, and I shared the more mainstream sources for it...

People take you more seriously if you do, for example if you had went and sourced this before posting it, it would still be in the politics section. BTW, this dude even acknowledges there is global warming, his theory is based on solar causes...



Julia, you point is well taken.

Thank you.

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RE: NASA Caught in Climate Data Manipulation; New Revel... - 1/16/2010 7:11:00 PM   
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replying to myself...




I find myself doing that more and more, julia.


Damned annoying, isn't it?


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