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Rule -> RE: Jew Hitler a Rothschild? ?? huh? (2/8/2010 9:31:00 AM)

As for the genocide on the Jews by the nazi's, I know that the Germans did use biological warfare against their prisoners. I had not yet heard that they used typhoid against the Jewish prisoners. Some of the psychopaths that were appointed to kill their prisoners, had fun in starving them to death.

Transporting Jews to Poland for slaughter, though it would be far cheaper to shoot them at location, or to suffocate them in airtight bags at location, as was done in Cambodia (to save on bullets), was done to prevent local Jews from uprising against the Germans, I think.

I do not doubt that many - millions of - Jews were gassed; I have seen no argument supporting the opposite, though I do think that the typhoid hypothesis is interesting (though on the other hand I do know that many people survived the biological warfare), but I am as yet not convinced.

I do am interested in the million Germans that the allied forces killed in their prison camps. Because they were witnesses to the German crimes, or for other reasons?

I have concluded that WWII was conducted by both sides as a subterfuge in order to exterminate certain people, both Jewish and communists and others.

I am convinced that the Jews that were murdered were innocents. I am also convinced that a few of them were not murdered but used their purported deaths to start a new life with another identity. I am most suspicious of the Jews that were not murdered, for if the murdered Jews were innocents, then perhaps those Jews that were not murdered perhaps were not innocents?




thishereboi -> RE: Jew Hitler a Rothschild? ?? huh? (2/8/2010 9:47:37 AM)

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I am convinced that the Jews that were murdered were innocents. I am also convinced that a few of them were not murdered but used their purported deaths to start a new life with another identity. I am most suspicious of the Jews that were not murdered, for if the murdered Jews were innocents, then perhaps those Jews that were not murdered perhaps were not innocents?


Or they were really lucky. My friends mother and her sister were taken by the germans. Her sister who had polio wasn't worth anything to the germans, so they killed her. She was healthy so they let her live and put her to work in a camp.




Real0ne -> RE: Jew Hitler a Rothschild? ?? huh? (2/8/2010 9:56:29 AM)

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ORIGINAL: AnimusRex


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ORIGINAL: Real0ne
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hitler could not match stalin in 5 lifetimes


Where do you get this?

You realize of course, that Stalin never actually killed anyone. That is just McCarthyite propaganda.


was it?   Hey anytime someone says that magic word propaganda I am all ears.

But you gotta point me to something that will qualify what you said.




Real0ne -> RE: Jew Hitler a Rothschild? ?? huh? (2/8/2010 10:17:52 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Rule

As for the genocide on the Jews by the nazi's, I know that the Germans did use biological warfare against their prisoners. I had not yet heard that they used typhoid against the Jewish prisoners. Some of the psychopaths that were appointed to kill their prisoners, had fun in starving them to death.

well like I said there were the german sonder whatever they were called that amounted to special forces that were pretty ruthless.  Not saying that they did not do what all other countries do in war.


Transporting Jews to Poland for slaughter, though it would be far cheaper to shoot them at location, or to suffocate them in airtight bags at location, as was done in Cambodia (to save on bullets), was done to prevent local Jews from uprising against the Germans, I think.

well they were all disarmed and in the ghettos praying to get into the camps so they got 3 squares. Doesnt make sense when the germans could just mow them down.... that and if the germans were out to simply waste jews why bother with the ghettos....again does not stand to reason.


I do not doubt that many - millions of - Jews were gassed; I have seen no argument supporting the opposite, though I do think that the typhoid hypothesis is interesting (though on the other hand I do know that many people survived the biological warfare), but I am as yet not convinced.

there are plenty, several tests have been done on the supposed gas chambers and it is impossible.  The mehtods that were claimed to be used were impossible.  If you actually dig into it you will see it was just all bullshit.  Then you always have the us army criminal medical staff Larsen and one other dood who examined thousands of bodies between a few camps and found no gassed victims.  just typhus, not typhoid.


I do am interested in the million Germans that the allied forces killed in their prison camps. Because they were witnesses to the German crimes, or for other reasons?

No after the war they were rounded up and put into camps and were out in the weather and starved and also got typhus etc  just goog it, its all over the net.


I have concluded that WWII was conducted by both sides as a subterfuge in order to exterminate certain people, both Jewish and communists and others.

Hardly.  All war is 2 things and 2 things only.  Power and Money.

I am convinced that the Jews that were murdered were innocents. I am also convinced that a few of them were not murdered but used their purported deaths to start a new life with another identity. I am most suspicious of the Jews that were not murdered, for if the murdered Jews were innocents, then perhaps those Jews that were not murdered perhaps were not innocents?


Hitler did not want jews in the general gouvernment because they were undermining german principles and putting in their own.

He had jews in his army many people do not know that.  shit few people know that they are to busy sucking on all that cold war propaganda teat.

Dont forget wall street funded hitler!



Do you see the pic below?  Most jews know this.  Its part of what they are taught in their schools.  Any of them tell you about it?  Shit NO!  Well one told me the whole story to save me from making a continued fool out of myself to her highly educated father on the ww2/hitler discussions.  Needless to say it forever changed how I accept history.


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Termyn8or -> RE: Jew Hitler a Rothschild? ?? huh? (2/8/2010 11:00:36 AM)

You had to go into this, so FR

My stance on this is that I was not there and I did not do it. From what I can gather from sources like old people who lived through those times is that it was not six million because the numberd don't add up. However some take this to mean that it never happened, something which I will not buy into.

Certain actual facts exist. Not many but some estimate that rather than six million it was more like three million. But does that really lessen the crime ? D6MRD does have some compelling evidence. Those who are dead are dead, but the assertion is that the magnitude has been exagerrated, and I can't argue against that, given other sources.

No country would take the Jews from Germany or the occupied territories, and that includes the US. FDR flat out refused. I will not speculate on the reason why, but it may have had something to do with the sheer numbers of them. For a country to take on millions of immigrants all at once is not an easy thing to do, especially when at war with even rubber and petroleum being already rationed.

All kinds of backdoor dealings were going on, as usual. Actually the second bomb we donated to the Japanes was a war crime, and the Russians caused it. Japan had surrendered, but to Russia. Why the fuck they did that when we knocked their ass out is beyond me, but it may have been communication. Nonetheless the Russians conveniently forgot to tell us in time. Facts folks, and these facts allude to the fact that there are many other facts which have not been revealed to this day.

The only way to know everything is to die. Until then we speculate and go by what we are told. My opinions are irrelevant, as are those of all because we simply weren't there. Of the very few we can find now who were, listening to them is hearing it through their eyes.

As far as the OP goes, it was my understand that if your Mother is a Jew you are a Jew, if she is not you ae not. Correct me if I am wrong here. But that's what I was told. Adopting Judaism as a religion is a different thing. Again, if I am wrong just say so, I'll admit it when I am wrong. But if what I said is true, how does that fit in ? And in the end what does it matter ?

Years ago, in a houseful of the neo Nazi types I did put Hitler down. I said "No matter what you say he gained power and led the country into a war which they lost". Does his ethnicity really matter ? Do all these little factoids matter ?

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mnottertail -> RE: Jew Hitler a Rothschild? ?? huh? (2/8/2010 11:07:38 AM)

Hey,

Since you are such an analyst, you know that the person securing the sign is Hermann Goering, right? or did your comb over miss that?





Jeffff -> RE: Jew Hitler a Rothschild? ?? huh? (2/8/2010 11:10:38 AM)

Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhh... you will wake him up.




Real0ne -> RE: Jew Hitler a Rothschild? ?? huh? (2/8/2010 11:27:03 AM)

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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

Hey,

Since you are such an analyst, you know that the person securing the sign is Hermann Goering, right? or did your comb over miss that?




no shit?  tell me about it! 

Yeh he owned the London Daily Express too!


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lusciouslips19 -> RE: Jew Hitler a Rothschild? ?? huh? (2/8/2010 11:45:03 AM)

I have never heard such absolute nonsense in my life. As one who has lost family members and for all the people who lost loved ones. Youre comments are just appalling. The first hand experiences refute all your bullshit . Along with the pictures and first hand accounts and evidence that is plentiful. 12 million people lost there lives. Among them jews, homesexual, mentally handicapped, gypys and others.




Real0ne -> RE: Jew Hitler a Rothschild? ?? huh? (2/8/2010 12:07:24 PM)

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ORIGINAL: lusciouslips19

I have never heard such absolute nonsense in my life. As one who has lost family members and for all the people who lost loved ones. Youre comments are just appalling. The first hand experiences refute all your bullshit . Along with the pictures and first hand accounts and evidence that is plentiful. 12 million people lost there lives. Among them jews, homesexual, mentally handicapped, gypys and others.


yeh so what?

I lost family to both sides of the ocean.

So what?

Your tear jerking does nothing to change history.

It would not be so appalling if you actually researched a bit instead of believing your government controlled HS education and religious schools who sold out for their tax exemption under 503c therefore required to teach government approved history eh.... 

Dont take my word for it.....get pissed and lite up google and show me to be wrong. 

If you can...




mnottertail -> RE: Jew Hitler a Rothschild? ?? huh? (2/8/2010 12:10:02 PM)

what do you do for a living?




DomKen -> RE: Jew Hitler a Rothschild? ?? huh? (2/8/2010 12:17:25 PM)

Hate to say it, since I thought moderation around here was way too strict previously, but this sort of crap is why boards need moderation.




EbonyWood -> RE: Jew Hitler a Rothschild? ?? huh? (2/8/2010 12:26:43 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Real0ne

Your tear jerking does nothing to change history.

It would not be so appalling if you actually researched


History would be LESS appalling if you researched it?
 
You're a fucking psychopath.
 
Take your corporate sponsored/government mind control medication and shut the fuck up for a few years. 




Lucylastic -> RE: Jew Hitler a Rothschild? ?? huh? (2/8/2010 12:29:08 PM)

Real, you are truly a despicable human being.





Panachea70 -> RE: Jew Hitler a Rothschild? ?? huh? (2/8/2010 12:39:41 PM)

RealOne -

Thank you for posting rational, clear, informed opinions.  Sadly, I get the feeling it's a bit like the pearls before the proverbial piglets ... But, then again, someone above quoted Churchill very cleverly about democracy ... To my mind, the conversation here rather supports his statement.




NorthernGent -> RE: Jew Hitler a Rothschild? ?? huh? (2/8/2010 1:14:16 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Real0ne

To claim it was a holocaust would be to claim hitler made burnt offerings.



I'd imagine that people mean mass genocide......

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ORIGINAL: Real0ne

The evil killer of ww2 was typhus not hitler.



Hitler wasn't the driving force behind the holocaust...I mean the mad fucker didn't get out of bed til 2 in the afternoon so he didn't exactly have his finger on the pulse...and his henchmen - some of whom were even more bizarre than him - knew exactly how to play him.


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ORIGINAL: Real0ne

feast your eyes on all them jews hitler forgot to extreminate!  all things considered he wasnt a very good extreminator proven by these pics of an arial flyover by a p51.

Needless to say just another historical pile of shit they sold us.



The Nazis had a good go at it.

What I will say is this: the victorious powers talked up the quality of the German Army......but first hand accounts (including from those in the Eastern European countries who had a bit of an issue with Jews) suggest there was indeed mass genocide....as do Nazi records from the camps.




NorthernGent -> RE: Jew Hitler a Rothschild? ?? huh? (2/8/2010 1:25:50 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Real0ne

Dont forget wall street funded hitler![/color]



Real0ne.....there's something to be said for having an alternative opinion......but it's wise to keep things in perspective. Germany had plenty of industrialists and militarists who were willing to push their own agenda - they didn't need much of a helping hand from the US. Yeah they may have accessed some finance from the US....as they did during WW1......that's business....and they may had some sympathisers over there....I mean they did in Britain......militarism and order (even though illusory in this case) will always be attractive to some.....but to say Hitler was funded by Wall Street lacks an understanding of what was happening in Germany.

Using the same argument - you could say the Americans funded the British during WW1 - and of course we did source some finance from the US - but Britain was the wealthiest nation in the world and were good for credit so it's fair to say we had ou fair share of resources to go at - far more than Germany in WW2 - yet we still needed to borrow to fund a 4 year war - just as Germany did in WW2.




Lucylastic -> RE: Jew Hitler a Rothschild? ?? huh? (2/8/2010 1:35:23 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Panachea70

RealOne -

Thank you for posting rational, clear, informed opinions.  Sadly, I get the feeling it's a bit like the pearls before the proverbial piglets ... But, then again, someone above quoted Churchill very cleverly about democracy ... To my mind, the conversation here rather supports his statement.


hmmm joined today, 1st post.... pardon me if I dont take you seriously just yet[8|]




Jeffff -> RE: Jew Hitler a Rothschild? ?? huh? (2/8/2010 1:36:11 PM)

Sock puppet.




lusciouslips19 -> RE: Jew Hitler a Rothschild? ?? huh? (2/8/2010 1:58:27 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Real0ne

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ORIGINAL: lusciouslips19

I have never heard such absolute nonsense in my life. As one who has lost family members and for all the people who lost loved ones. Youre comments are just appalling. The first hand experiences refute all your bullshit . Along with the pictures and first hand accounts and evidence that is plentiful. 12 million people lost there lives. Among them jews, homesexual, mentally handicapped, gypys and others.


yeh so what?

I lost family to both sides of the ocean.

So what?

Your tear jerking does nothing to change history.

It would not be so appalling if you actually researched a bit instead of believing your government controlled HS education and religious schools who sold out for their tax exemption under 503c therefore required to teach government approved history eh....

Dont take my word for it.....get pissed and lite up google and show me to be wrong.

If you can...



The people, the evidence and the evidence archived at the Holocust museums. Ever been to one?

You are a big dufas that needs to shut up.




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