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ORIGINAL: LadyEllen

Just reported on BBC; 100,000 illegal immigrants from Haiti have been granted 18 months permission to remain, as well as permission to work in the US. The decision has been made because its not safe for them to be returned home and because its hoped they will work and remit money home.

Makes sense to me, although apparently there is already adverse criticism that this 18 months will become permanent.

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ORIGINAL: SL4V3M4YB3

No the rule is the first country they pass through is where they must stay.

We are an island thus people have to swim here or be shipwrecked here to claim asylum, these are the rules ask just the conservatives.

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ORIGINAL: LadyEllen

I dont think we have many (maybe any) illegal Haitians Mia. Quite a few legal ones though, which came as a bit of a surprise.

I would expect France has quite a few though

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ORIGINAL: LadyEllen

Just reported on BBC; 100,000 illegal immigrants from Haiti have been granted 18 months permission to remain, as well as permission to work in the US. The decision has been made because its not safe for them to be returned home and because its hoped they will work and remit money home.

Makes sense to me, although apparently there is already adverse criticism that this 18 months will become permanent.

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ORIGINAL: LadyEllen

Just reported on BBC; 100,000 illegal immigrants from Haiti have been granted 18 months permission to remain, as well as permission to work in the US. The decision has been made because its not safe for them to be returned home and because its hoped they will work and remit money home.

Makes sense to me, although apparently there is already adverse criticism that this 18 months will become permanent.

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ORIGINAL: popeye1250

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ORIGINAL: LadyEllen

Just reported on BBC; 100,000 illegal immigrants from Haiti have been granted 18 months permission to remain, as well as permission to work in the US. The decision has been made because its not safe for them to be returned home and because its hoped they will work and remit money home.

Makes sense to me, although apparently there is already adverse criticism that this 18 months will become permanent.

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LadyE, I don't think most people would be against letting them stay for 18 months.
The problem is that we in the U.S. still have some 300,000 Central Americans here on T.P.S. from Hurricane "Mitch" way back in 1998! That's been for 11 or 12 years now! It's time for them to return to their respective countries, I don't understand what our govt.is waiting for. Also, who knows how many from Bosnia and Kosovo from what,....1996? They should have been returned long ago.
The U.S. govt can't continue to lie to the people about things like this. Eighteen months means eighteen months.

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ORIGINAL: Aneirin

The trouble with people on welfare, or high school drop outs, is they have that thing we have all been educated in, expectation, which basically transpires as what one should receive in return for labour and skills traded. If the expectation is not fulfilled, or the understanding that the expectation will not  be fulfilled through gaining low paid employment, there are other options to pursue, crime is one of them and perhaps for the lazy, non savvy, or more humanitarian amongst the unemployed, welfare ensures a basic living whilst in the latter category personal beliefs can be maintained by living on welfare. Government is seen as a faceless uncaring organisation that  is controlled by laws and statutes, it is easier to take money from government than it is from actual people via crime. Perhaps there also exists the thought that as government permitted and fostered expectation, as it was good for the economy, then the government can help out when the expectation is not being met.

People that come from other countries that have a lesser standard of living might be seeing what the host country's nationals can't see, so the immigrants are pleased to take the work as it might be a whole lot better than what they left behind.

I wonder how often it is that there are immigrants from as wealthy counties, or wealthier countries, would they take the low paid jobs the nationals would baulk at, or are their expectations higher.

There is a thought that in the UK at least, as soon as a person signs on for unemployment benefit, they become known more so than before, ( if indeed people are known before) to the UK intelligence agencies, as it was thought the lack of gainful employment is a breeding ground for political dissenters and activists. In short employment with long hours and pay keeps the mind away from thoughts of challenging the status quo, one is basically too tired and to be fair, has dreams achieved by pay, either payment outright, or credit that is made available via being employed. Easy credit, trapped into employment and there less risk of a challenger or activist being born out of poverty.