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How much is too much? - 1/20/2010 3:21:09 AM   
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Hi to everyone at cm, brilliant site. I have a question, if anyone can help i will be very greatfull. I have been crossdressing since i was young, however i am about go a step further, i am about to buy some wigs & makeup which i am realy looking foreward to. My question is 'how much is too much'. I will be putting some pics of myself made up but allthough it's a passion to be dressed & made up i don't want look so different that anyone looking at my profile will no idea what i realy look like but i also don't want to put pics of myself without makeup. Any advice for a first timer?
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RE: How much is too much? - 1/20/2010 5:59:34 PM   
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Before you run out and buy a lot of wigs and makeup, do some research so you can make the right choices.  The last thing you want is to look like the bastard love child of Tammy Faye Baker and Bozo the Clown.  Well, that is, if your goal is to be passable.  If your kink is to be humiliated because you look like crap, then disregard everything below.
 
The first thing you'll need to do is find out your "color palette" -- the colors which are most flattering for your skin tone based on how much melanin and carotene you have.  For example, if you have dark hair and olive skin, you'll probably need a "cool" palette, while a red-head with a peachy skin tone is a "warm" palette.  Many makeup brands divide their products into "warm," "cool," and "neutral."  Neutrals look good on almost anyone.  Take a trip to the library and look up color analysis books such as Color Me Beautiful by Carole Jackson for help.
 
Once you've determined your palette, pick wigs and makup colors that work with your skin.  I strongly suggest you invest in some high-quality foundation designed for heavy coverage that will help disguise your beard.  The average bottle of Cover Girl or other brand you see advertised in fashion magazines is made to be sheer or very lightweight and won't look good on you.  Ben Nye is a well-known company that produces stage makup for theater, television, and movies and is probably the best for your purposes.  It's expensive, but it's worth the price.  For blush, eyeliner, eyeshadow, and lipstick, you can use the less expensive brands you'll find at your local drug store.  While you're at it, invest in some makeup sponges and brushes.  They'll give you better coverage and a more put-together look than your fingers and the little sponge applicators that come with most cosmetics.
 
Once you've got your tools, go back to the library.  Pick up books on applying stage makeup.  These will teach you the basic techniques for applying makeup, as well as more advanced techniques like shading to help soften your jawline to appear more feminine.  The first several times you "put your face on" will probably take an hour or more to get it just right.  Practice these skills until you can apply your makeup from start to finish in 20 minutes or less.  Once you have it down, you can experiment with different looks like the ones you find in fashion magazines.  If you want to be able to pass as a woman, go for a muted, natural look.  Only hookers and Tammy Faye spackle on eyeshadow and lipstick with a trowel.  Play around and find the look you like best.
 
Hope this helps.  Good luck.

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RE: How much is too much? - 1/20/2010 6:10:43 PM   
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Sounds like a "what you see is what you get" approach. You have a lot of photo slots, run the spectrum.

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RE: How much is too much? - 1/20/2010 6:34:14 PM   
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Some Example of How Much is too much... Lady GaGa.. Tammy Fay Baker...

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RE: How much is too much? - 1/21/2010 3:22:48 AM   
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Thankyou, you've given me a lot to think about & some very good tips especialy concerning the foundation, i would never have thought about that, i'll most certainly take them on board.

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RE: How much is too much? - 1/21/2010 3:28:23 AM   
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One thing that I find works good for me is to rub some hand cream into my face before I apply any make-up. I find it sets a good base, the make-up lasts longer and doesn't seem to absorb into my skin and cause break outs.

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RE: How much is too much? - 1/21/2010 12:54:28 PM   
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Thankyou, you've given me a lot to think about & some very good tips especialy concerning the foundation, i would never have thought about that, i'll most certainly take them on board.


You're most welcome.  Behold, you reap the benefits of my years of theater experience.  While I've never disguised a man as a woman for the stage, I know how to make people make look older, younger, and change the shape of the face with makeup.  It takes a lot of practice, but it can be fun.  If you live in an area with a good community theater, I also suggest volunteering and learning as much as you can about applying stage makeup.  It will help you with your own transformation when the time comes.

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RE: How much is too much? - 1/21/2010 1:35:34 PM   
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Thankyou for that but unfortunately i'm in transition at the moment, i can't be obvious, i'm doing this for the first time & all my family & friends are going to be bemused when they relise what i'm doing, so for the moment i have to do this in private, not privvy to any help from anyone, fortunataly for me i'm an artist so i'll just see this as using a different medium. I can paint a portrait no problem but i've never painted on a 3 dimentional skin, i'm looking foreward to the results. I will rellish the chance to do something i've never done before let alone the fact that i have been dreaming about this since childhood. Super duper, just hope i don't get a knock on the door while i'm 'experimenting'?

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RE: How much is too much? - 1/21/2010 1:47:13 PM   
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I tend to go for a bit more dramatic look - as I am a self-proclaimed peacock.  However, I do try to stay within a respectful range of what is an age appropriate look for a female.

A big part of what you will have to deal with is your beard.  Depending on how heavy it is, you will need to consider how to cover it.  Key is a very close shave.  I blade shave, then go in with one of those electric "personal" razors that they sell to women.  My beard is not terribly dark nor heavy, so I can usually get away with foundation and powder, but they do make beard covers that are very opaque.  Depending on the results you get, consider one of those.

Second is your eyebrows and sideburns.  Girls, as a general rule have little or no sideburns, and very clean brows.  Tweezing those is going to be a must for a more feminine look.  I tweeze mine and have them so that they are look just a bit heavy but still well groomed for a girl, and light and well groomed for a guy.  As I have grown my hair out, I have eliminated any sideburn action.

I have a few pics on my profile if you are looking for examples.  Good luck and enjoy yourself! 


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RE: How much is too much? - 1/21/2010 1:59:34 PM   
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Thank you for that. Luckily i have quite light hair & a stubble hair cut, so after wearing a wig, none of this will be visible. I have also noticed that a lot of men have dark eyebrowes & seem to be able to use them in a possitive way, i have light eyebrowes so i should'nt have this problem, allthough i am willing to make some drastic changes as far as legnth of hair, eyebrow thickness etc, i am confident that i will be able to manipulate what i allready have without making too many blatently obvious changes, hopefully, or i'm going to be walking around looking like a right ***@@@::.

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