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pahunkboy -> RE: SCOTUS - Corporations are People! What are the expected ramifications (1/23/2010 3:46:16 PM)
http://www.collarchat.com/m_3023917/tm.htm I don't know how you can say that. Not the way THIS board feels about this topic.

Real0ne -> RE: SCOTUS - Corporations are People! What are the expected ramifications (1/23/2010 3:57:06 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: pahunkboy http://www.collarchat.com/m_3023917/tm.htm I don't know how you can say that. Not the way THIS board feels about this topic. good thread hunk wish I would have seen it! You know ya hate to put your fellow man down but the ignorance of people never ceases to amaze me. Send me your email on the other side and I will send you some goodies how to get over it instead staying under it like these people are.

mnottertail -> RE: SCOTUS - Corporations are People! What are the expected ramifications (1/23/2010 4:02:59 PM)
ohhhhhhhhhhhhh, so this is how the secret handshake goes............(scribbling notes like a motherfucker here)......... LOL Ron

Real0ne -> RE: SCOTUS - Corporations are People! What are the expected ramifications (1/23/2010 4:53:19 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: mnottertail ohhhhhhhhhhhhh, so this is how the secret handshake goes............(scribbling notes like a motherfucker here)......... LOL Ron what good does it do to post the course of remedy to slaves who think they are free?

thornhappy -> RE: SCOTUS - Corporations are People! What are the expected ramifications (1/23/2010 5:02:30 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: popeye1250 All judges should be elected. Then they become beholden to their campaign contributors.

thornhappy -> RE: SCOTUS - Corporations are People! What are the expected ramifications (1/23/2010 5:06:48 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Real0ne quote: ORIGINAL: mnottertail ohhhhhhhhhhhhh, so this is how the secret handshake goes............(scribbling notes like a motherfucker here)......... LOL Ron what good does it do to post the course of remedy to slaves who think they are free? Yes, we're free from conspiracy theories.

Real0ne -> RE: SCOTUS - Corporations are People! What are the expected ramifications (1/23/2010 6:59:39 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: thornhappy quote: ORIGINAL: popeye1250 All judges should be elected. Then they become beholden to their campaign contributors. sounds like a conspiracy theory to me! LOL

servantforuse -> RE: SCOTUS - Corporations are People! What are the expected ramifications (1/23/2010 7:01:22 PM)
Didn't organized labor (big unions, not big oil ) spend close to 100 million to get democrats elected in 2008 ? Why can't big companies have the same freedom ?

Musicmystery -> RE: SCOTUS - Corporations are People! What are the expected ramifications (1/23/2010 7:48:49 PM)
They do. And they did--following the same rules as the unions. What are you talking about? Additionally, unions are miniscule next to corporate economic power.

servantforuse -> RE: SCOTUS - Corporations are People! What are the expected ramifications (1/23/2010 7:53:02 PM)
Why then, is there such an outrage over this ruling from those on the left ?

Musicmystery -> RE: SCOTUS - Corporations are People! What are the expected ramifications (1/23/2010 7:54:34 PM)
OK, class....let's review.....

pahunkboy -> RE: SCOTUS - Corporations are People! What are the expected ramifications (1/23/2010 7:58:01 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: servantforuse Why then, is there such an outrage over this ruling from those on the left ? Just the left? The Patriots are just as outraged, look around.

LadyEllen -> RE: SCOTUS - Corporations are People! What are the expected ramifications (1/23/2010 8:02:54 PM)
there are several threads about this subject SFU - they have all run into one another in one way or another; I would suggest you read them all through to catch up on where we are. The basic problem is that corporations are legal persons, not natural persons, and as such are separate from their members. For what its worth, I believe the same problem should apply to unions, unless they merely act as collectors/disbursers of the contributions of natural persons on the basis that each natural person authorises this The other problem though is that the officers of a corporation are under a duty to invest such that shareholder return is maximised, so that even as a legal person lacking right of expression, political funding to defined and beneficial policy aims may be pursued E

servantforuse -> RE: SCOTUS - Corporations are People! What are the expected ramifications (1/23/2010 8:07:21 PM)
Is a labor union a legal person ? Is a newspaper a legal person ? Is a TV station a legal person ? All of these could give money to campaigns, but not 'companies'. That's what this ruling was about.

LadyEllen -> RE: SCOTUS - Corporations are People! What are the expected ramifications (1/23/2010 8:10:50 PM)
I've written post after post on the subject across the several threads SFU - I'm not going to regurgitate the whole lot here for your convenience sorry. In short, the ruling itself changes little except to highlight a problem that needs to be fixed to maintain the rights of the people and in theory allows me as a Brit a greater say than you as a US citizen. E

Real0ne -> RE: SCOTUS - Corporations are People! What are the expected ramifications (1/23/2010 8:14:46 PM)
unions form a "body politic" artificial entity in law just like a corporation does. Any unity bodies should be banned by any name. Only a single living or as I use in my briefs; “Exsisto:Homo-hominis-animus-vivo-vixi-victum“, be “Flesh-blood-living-man-consciousness” stated as a compound fact to be perfectly clear to those word mincing bastards.

Sanity -> RE: SCOTUS - Corporations are People! What are the expected ramifications (1/24/2010 8:46:15 AM)
Can and do. Not just money, either - but support. Free air time, free advertising, even propaganda. quote: ORIGINAL: servantforuse Is a labor union a legal person ? Is a newspaper a legal person ? Is a TV station a legal person ? All of these could give money to campaigns, but not 'companies'. That's what this ruling was about.

Sanity -> RE: SCOTUS - Corporations are People! What are the expected ramifications (1/24/2010 8:51:57 AM)
What you're seeking to do is rewrite the Constitution and eliminate the freedom of assembly. Do you think that only means the right to meet? It also means the right to work together towards common goals without undue interference. In this day when the president and others can commandeer all the broadcast networks and push an agenda that may include the destruction of certain businesses, then those businesses should have a right to rebut that attack. Or do you prefer living in a dictatorship? quote: ORIGINAL: Real0ne unions form a "body politic" artificial entity in law just like a corporation does. Any unity bodies should be banned by any name. Only a single living or as I use in my briefs; “Exsisto:Homo-hominis-animus-vivo-vixi-victum“, be “Flesh-blood-living-man-consciousness” stated as a compound fact to be perfectly clear to those word mincing bastards.

Musicmystery -> RE: SCOTUS - Corporations are People! What are the expected ramifications (1/24/2010 8:52:15 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: servantforuse Is a labor union a legal person ? Is a newspaper a legal person ? Is a TV station a legal person ? All of these could give money to campaigns, but not 'companies'. That's what this ruling was about. Nope. Since 1947, unions were restricted just as corporations. But not now!

DomKen -> RE: SCOTUS - Corporations are People! What are the expected ramifications (1/24/2010 9:24:48 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: servantforuse Is a labor union a legal person ? Is a newspaper a legal person ? Is a TV station a legal person ? All of these could give money to campaigns, but not 'companies'. That's what this ruling was about. Actually unions and corporations could both spend money on politics and in exactly teh same way and amounts. By donating money to PAC's. This ruling upends the rules for for-profit corporations only.

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