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Right Wing Flame War - 1/23/2010 6:23:10 PM   
thornhappy


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This story's about the outcome of a flame war against Little Green Footballs.

"Now it is eight years later [after its founding], and Johnson, who is 56, sits in the ashes of an epic flame war that has destroyed his relationships with nearly every one of his old right-wing allies. People who have pledged their lives to fighting Islamic extremism, when asked about Charles Johnson now, unsheathe a word they do not throw around lightly: “evil.” Glenn Beck has taken the time to denounce him on air and at length. Johnson himself (Mad King Charles is one of his most frequent, and most printable, Web nicknames) has used his technical know-how to block thousands of his former readers not just from commenting on his site but even, in many cases, from viewing its home page. He recently moved into a gated community, partly out of fear, he said, that the venom directed at him in cyberspace might jump its boundaries and lead someone to do him physical harm. He has turned forcefully against Fox News, Rush Limbaugh, Sarah Palin, nearly every conservative icon you can name. And answering the question of what, or who, got to Charles Johnson has itself become a kind of boom genre on the Internet."

I thought the article was interesting since I've heard of that blog for years, and the article points out a lot of the weaknesses in online debate.  I've seen a lot of the same styles here, especially since the moderation's loosened up.
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RE: Right Wing Flame War - 1/24/2010 6:01:47 AM   
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Status: offline 		An interesting read. Thanks for that.

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RE: Right Wing Flame War - 1/24/2010 7:11:04 AM   
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ORIGINAL: thornhappy

I've seen a lot of the same styles here, especially since the moderation's loosened up.



It's so true it's spooky.

"Instead of causes and effects, motivations and consequences, observation and behavior, his means of intellectual synthesis is, instead, the link: the indiscriminate connection established via search engine."

Definitely, something we all witness here. I used to call it "the Battle of the Link": certain posters here are virulently enamoured with that particular game.

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RE: Right Wing Flame War - 1/24/2010 7:30:05 AM   
SL4V3M4YB3


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Status: offline 		Want to see an example of when Wikipedia is wrong?

Well I always thought that 'Troilus and Cressida' was a comedy but it is listed on Wikipedia as tragedy

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shakespeare_plays

c.f.
http://shakespeare.mit.edu/
http://www.shakespeare-online.com/plays/
http://absoluteshakespeare.com/plays/plays.htm

shocking huh?

I noticed this on that 'what do these things have in common' game, it totally fucked up the question I set.


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RE: Right Wing Flame War - 1/24/2010 8:32:02 AM   
Musicmystery


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Status: offline 		Wikipedia is often wrong, sm.

I never use it alone for anything important.

I like Answers.com because it pulls out several encyclopedia entries, including Wikipedia but also the much more respected ones and the incidental subject specific ones we'd not likely think to check.



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RE: Right Wing Flame War - 1/24/2010 8:43:32 AM   
TheHeretic


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Status: offline 		That was a good read, Thorn.  Thanks for sharing it.  I've certainly seen the same sort of behaviors with the links on this board and there doesn't seem to be any sort of partisan barrier to it.

I don't think there is much partisan barrier to a site with a particular slant altering their position and changing what people can and cannot post there, either.  I'm reminded of Cindy Shehan and co. being banished from Daily Kos, after the Dems had raped the anti-war movement to regain the House in '06.  LGF looks to have been a real asshole about it, though.

As for the personal side of the story, the Times seems be giving us a little morality play on what can happen when a smart young man, who has never really been in charge of anything, somehow rises to the very top, only to become isolated, and crazed with power.  A lesson for us all in these difficult times. 

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RE: Right Wing Flame War - 1/24/2010 9:26:54 AM   
Moonhead


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ORIGINAL: SL4V3M4YB3

Want to see an example of when Wikipedia is wrong?

Well I always thought that 'Troilus and Cressida' was a comedy but it is listed on Wikipedia as tragedy

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shakespeare_plays

c.f.
http://shakespeare.mit.edu/
http://www.shakespeare-online.com/plays/
http://absoluteshakespeare.com/plays/plays.htm

shocking huh?

I noticed this on that 'what do these things have in common' game, it totally fucked up the question I set.


The best example of Wiki being wrong I can remember was during the last UK by elections: somebody had changed the bios of all the BNP candidates who were standing by cutting and pasting them with bios of gay porn stars. I thought that was hilarious.

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RE: Right Wing Flame War - 1/27/2010 3:39:45 AM   
SeekingAZ


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ORIGINAL: thornhappy

Right Wing Flame War

This story's about the outcome of a flame war against Little Green Footballs.

"Now it is eight years later [after its founding], and Johnson, who is 56, sits in the ashes of an epic flame war that has destroyed his relationships with nearly every one of his old right-wing allies. People who have pledged their lives to fighting Islamic extremism, when asked about Charles Johnson now, unsheathe a word they do not throw around lightly: “evil.” Glenn Beck has taken the time to denounce him on air and at length. Johnson himself (Mad King Charles is one of his most frequent, and most printable, Web nicknames) has used his technical know-how to block thousands of his former readers not just from commenting on his site but even, in many cases, from viewing its home page. He recently moved into a gated community, partly out of fear, he said, that the venom directed at him in cyberspace might jump its boundaries and lead someone to do him physical harm. He has turned forcefully against Fox News, Rush Limbaugh, Sarah Palin, nearly every conservative icon you can name. And answering the question of what, or who, got to Charles Johnson has itself become a kind of boom genre on the Internet."

I thought the article was interesting since I've heard of that blog for years, and the article points out a lot of the weaknesses in online debate.  I've seen a lot of the same styles here, especially since the moderation's loosened up.



Ok, lets see.

Some blogger:

A). Exposes Rathergate, apparently not the first, but due to some technical skill proves the case in an easy to understand manner and merits tons of conservative blog interest which is understandable due to the mainstream media bias it illustrates.

B). Said blogger then goes paranoid and weird and all the cross linking disappears.

Why are the consequences of any of this unexpected (or interesting) ?

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RE: Right Wing Flame War - 1/27/2010 6:00:12 AM   
Moonhead


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Status: offline 		Because conservatives have a bee in their bonnet about ideological purity and loathe and despise people who are capable of changing their minds about something, I'd have thought. Remember all of that bullshit about "flip flopping" back in '04?

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