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Space diver' to attempt first supersonic freefall - 1/25/2010 12:10:54 AM   
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Status: offline 		It's about the craziest thing I have heard of in a while. Why doesn't it surprise me that Red Bull is involved? I wonder how many of you would attempt it once they explain the whole "oozing fluid from your eyes and mouth" thing.

He will face extreme peril. He should reach supersonic speeds 35 seconds after he jumps, and the resulting shock wave "is a big concern", the project's technical director, Art Thompson, said at a press briefing on Friday. "In early aircraft development, they thought it was a wall they couldn't pass without breaking apart. In our case, the vehicle is flesh and blood, and he'll be exposed to some extreme forces."
Still, project medical director Jonathan Clark noted there has been one known instance of a pilot surviving the destruction of a plane at three times the speed of sound. "We know it's not just theoretically possible, it's possible," he said.
After falling for about six minutes, Baumgartner should open his parachute at roughly 1520 metres.
The jump height is above a threshold at 19,000 metres called the Armstrong line, where the atmospheric pressure is so low that fluids start to boil. "If he opens up his face mask or the suit, all the gases in your body go out of suspension, so you literally turn into a giant fizzy, oozing fluid from your eyes and mouth, like something out of a horror film," Thompson explained. "It's just seconds until death." The link has a whole lot more on it.
 
http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn18427-space-diver-to-attempt-first-supersonic-freefall.html

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RE: Space diver' to attempt first supersonic freefall - 1/25/2010 12:42:31 AM   
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Status: offline 		It sounds like a suicide attempt to me. The speed of the freefall alone could easily kill him.

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RE: Space diver' to attempt first supersonic freefall - 1/25/2010 1:04:15 AM   
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It sounds like a suicide attempt to me. The speed of the freefall alone could easily kill him.


That's true. There are a bunch of different ways this could kill him. Better not let those fuckers at Mountain Dew get a hold of this article. I am having a vision of this being the new extreme sport. People trying to dodge "Sonic Divers" on their way to work. Just wait. If they ever make this relatively safe...

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RE: Space diver' to attempt first supersonic freefall - 1/25/2010 1:17:52 AM   
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RE: Space diver' to attempt first supersonic freefall - 1/25/2010 1:24:22 AM   
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Status: offline 		A suit like that would come in real handy. Never played the game though.

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RE: Space diver' to attempt first supersonic freefall - 1/25/2010 9:13:26 AM   
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I am having a vision of this being the new extreme sport. People trying to dodge "Sonic Divers" on their way to work.


I can see it now, you're sitting in morning traffic and all of a sudden SPLAT, a skydiver smashes into your hood at a thousand miles an hour, with a bottle do mountain dew in his hand

I wouldn't want to be the guy at the bodyshop when that car comes in

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RE: Space diver' to attempt first supersonic freefall - 1/25/2010 9:22:07 AM   
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Status: offline 		  ....... utterly stunned that someone would want to do such a thing..... willingly that is... and the whole perhaps turning into oozing liquid just makes it so wrong!!! 

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RE: Space diver' to attempt first supersonic freefall - 1/25/2010 4:09:47 PM   
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I can see it now, you're sitting in morning traffic and all of a sudden SPLAT, a skydiver smashes into your hood at a thousand miles an hour, with a bottle do mountain dew in his hand

I wouldn't want to be the guy at the bodyshop when that car comes in  Yea you would. That's money in the pocket. So you charge extra. A fee for bio-removal.


Damnit frank, this is the third one this week. The last time I was an hour late for work.

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RE: Space diver' to attempt first supersonic freefall - 1/25/2010 4:15:16 PM   
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  ....... utterly stunned that someone would want to do such a thing..... willingly that is... and the whole perhaps turning into oozing liquid just makes it so wrong!!! 


I guess jumping off bridges isn't as extreme as it used to be. Got to find bigger and better.

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RE: Space diver' to attempt first supersonic freefall - 1/25/2010 4:21:27 PM   
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Status: offline 		It looks to be a very serious effort by a well financed team.

They have an experienced accomplished skydiver.  The
team has scheduled practice jumps at lower altitudes.  They
will have all the telemetry they will get from the suits during
those jumps. 

There will always be those who want to push the envelope.
Who knows what they will learn and how the rest of us may
someday benefit?   That is part of the beauty and wonder of
both science and adventure. 

Thank you for posting this.



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RE: Space diver' to attempt first supersonic freefall - 1/25/2010 4:27:28 PM   
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Status: offline 		No problem. You know, they might need more people to test things out. You seem to have an interest in it. Maybe you should...

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RE: Space diver' to attempt first supersonic freefall - 1/25/2010 4:30:35 PM   
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Status: offline 		So... How are they getting around terminal velocity?

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RE: Space diver' to attempt first supersonic freefall - 1/25/2010 4:33:15 PM   
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So... How are they getting around terminal velocity?


By putting a suicidal idiot inside a suit.

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RE: Space diver' to attempt first supersonic freefall - 1/25/2010 4:36:58 PM   
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Still, project medical director Jonathan Clark noted there has been one known instance of a pilot surviving the destruction of a plane at three times the speed of sound. "We know it's not just theoretically possible, it's possible," he said.

What's not often mentioned is that was at high altitude, where the aerodynamic forces are much lower.

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RE: Space diver' to attempt first supersonic freefall - 1/25/2010 6:11:27 PM   
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RE: Space diver' to attempt first supersonic freefall - 1/25/2010 6:55:39 PM   
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Status: offline 		What a cool story!  Thanks for posting it! 

Can you imagine all the tail this guy is going to score with bragging rights on being the first person to go supersonic without an airplane?   (or is being that quick going cost him?)

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RE: Space diver' to attempt first supersonic freefall - 1/25/2010 7:18:23 PM   
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What a cool story!  Thanks for posting it! 

Can you imagine all the tail this guy is going to score with bragging rights on being the first person to go supersonic without an airplane?   (or is being that quick going cost him?)


Shit that would be a sure fire panty watering story. You need giant balls to do something like this. My balls are big but they aren't that crazy.

They said there was a pilot that survived a fall like this. It wasn't too clear but either the plane was going 3 times the speed of sound or he was. My guess is it was the plane. I would think a body would peel going that fast.

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RE: Space diver' to attempt first supersonic freefall - 1/25/2010 7:29:13 PM   
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So... How are they getting around terminal velocity?


From wikipedia on "terminal velocity"

Based on wind resistance, for example, the terminal velocity of a skydiver in a free-fall position with a semi-closed parachute is about 195 km/h (120 mph or 55 m/s).[2] This velocity is the asymptotic limiting value of the acceleration process, because the effective forces on the body balance each other more and more closely as the terminal velocity is approached. In this example, a speed of 50% of terminal velocity is reached after only about 3 seconds, while it takes 8 seconds to reach 90%, 15 seconds to reach 99% and so on. Higher speeds can be attained if the skydiver pulls in his or her limbs (see also freeflying). In this case, the terminal velocity increases to about 320 km/h (200 mph or 90 m/s),[2] which is also the terminal velocity of the peregrine falcon diving down on its prey.[3] And the same terminal velocity is reached for a typical 150 grain bullet travelling in the downward vertical direction — when it is returning to earth having been fired upwards, or perhaps just dropped from a tower — according to a 1920 U.S. Army Ordnance study.[4]
Competition speed skydivers fly in the head down position reaching even higher speeds. The current world record is 614 mph (988 km/h) by Joseph Kittinger, set at high altitude where the lesser density of the atmosphere decreased drag.[2]

I couldn't even imagine moving at 614 mph.


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RE: Space diver' to attempt first supersonic freefall - 1/25/2010 8:54:13 PM   
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Status: offline 		Kittinger was quite the man. If I recall his record is several decades old.

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PS I've done a number of high adventure activities in my days, and have snatched life back from the jaws of death  more than once. I understand the mentality.

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RE: Space diver' to attempt first supersonic freefall - 1/25/2010 9:07:23 PM   
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This is just nature's way of weeding out the stupid genes from the pool......


But if he lives, that makes his genes Super Awesome Genes. Funny how it works that way.

As for me, I'd totally do this! I'm sort of surprised nobody else thinks it looks fun.

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