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Who then replaces the queen? - 1/26/2010 1:17:11 PM   
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Status: offline 		I was watching a vid on Dianna- and recall that Chapman said the Charles does not have the brain that the queen has and he does not think he will be calling the shots- (despite that it might look that way ) so the question is- who then?





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RE: Who then replaces the queen? - 1/26/2010 1:19:08 PM   
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Status: offline 		The Queen doesn't call the shots. She's a symbolic head of state and nothing else. Whoever succeeds her will be just fine, don't you worry about that: trust me, you have enough problems here, what with the Federal Reserve, the price of gold and the New World Order.

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RE: Who then replaces the queen? - 1/26/2010 1:25:11 PM   
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Status: offline 		When the Queen dies, Prince Charles becomes King instantly - no question there.
Then, King Charles must be crowned.  He could abdicate at that point, and Prince William would become King instantly.

Remember that the late Duke of Windsor was to be crowned King Edward the Eighth, but he gave up the Throne and married a divorced woman (Wallis Simpson) instead. Having no children, his abdication made his younger brother King George the 6th.  King George the 6th was Elizabeth's father and his death made her Queen Elizabeth the 2nd.

Upon the death (or abdication) of the reigning monarch the crown passes to sons first, then to daughters, then to brothers, then to sisters. If that doesn't decide it, the crown passes to siblings (brothers first, then sisters) of the parent of the reigning monarch.  Lather, rinse, repeat.

So, possibly Charles dies before the Queen..... The next in line is Andrew and that'll shake things up a bit....

But I think what will happen is that when Elizabeth II has reigned longer than Victoria (on 10 September, 2015 at age 89), Elizabeth will abdicate (possibly waiting for her 90th birthday.)

Charles will then abdicate (being 67 or 68 years old) and the King will then be William (at age 2015-1982 = 33 or so.)

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RE: Who then replaces the queen? - 1/26/2010 1:54:30 PM   
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Status: offline 		Actually, there are rumours that Her Maj' is thinking of bypassing Charlie in favour of Will - one thing's for sure: neither father nor son will have the same majestic deportment as good old Lizzie.

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RE: Who then replaces the queen? - 1/26/2010 2:05:32 PM   
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When the Queen dies, Prince Charles becomes King instantly - no question there.
Then, King Charles must be crowned.  He could abdicate at that point, and Prince William would become King instantly.

Remember that the late Duke of Windsor was to be crowned King Edward the Eighth, but he gave up the Throne and married a divorced woman (Wallis Simpson) instead. Having no children, his abdication made his younger brother King George the 6th.  King George the 6th was Elizabeth's father and his death made her Queen Elizabeth the 2nd.

Upon the death (or abdication) of the reigning monarch the crown passes to sons first, then to daughters, then to brothers, then to sisters. If that doesn't decide it, the crown passes to siblings (brothers first, then sisters) of the parent of the reigning monarch.  Lather, rinse, repeat.

So, possibly Charles dies before the Queen..... The next in line is Andrew and that'll shake things up a bit....

But I think what will happen is that when Elizabeth II has reigned longer than Victoria (on 10 September, 2015 at age 89), Elizabeth will abdicate (possibly waiting for her 90th birthday.)

Charles will then abdicate (being 67 or 68 years old) and the King will then be William (at age 2015-1982 = 33 or so.)


Thank you.  I don't know much about it.   I appreciate the answer.

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RE: Who then replaces the queen? - 1/26/2010 2:28:01 PM   
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So, possibly Charles dies before the Queen..... The next in line is Andrew and that'll shake things up a bit....


Incorrect.  Next in line would be William.  Andrew would be, third in line (Second should Charles die).

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RE: Who then replaces the queen? - 1/26/2010 2:30:20 PM   
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Status: offline 		A little bit of research shows that Her Majesty may abdicate only if the Parliment amends the Succession Act as they did for Edward the 8th...... The Queen could ask that Parliment declare William her succesor, but it's not up to the Queen to decide whom succeeds her.   Also, the Queen seems to be of the opinion that's it's a job for life.

Stay tuned.  (But it really doesn't matter - we've got that 2012 thingie to get thru first. LOL!)

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RE: Who then replaces the queen? - 1/26/2010 2:33:53 PM   
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So, possibly Charles dies before the Queen..... The next in line is Andrew and that'll shake things up a bit....


Incorrect.  Next in line would be William.  Andrew would be, third in line (Second should Charles die).

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Both wrong. The little nazi Harry would be next idiot in line after Wiily.
 
But seriously, who gives a fuck about this overpaid inbred bunch of snobs. Against the wall with the lot of them.

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RE: Who then replaces the queen? - 1/26/2010 2:48:13 PM   
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Status: offline 		Oh, please.... here's the list through the children and grandchildren of Elizabeth (next are her newphews and nieces since Princess Margaret is dead.)
    HRH The Prince of Wales  (The Prince Charles; b 1948), son of Queen Elizabeth II
  1. HRH Prince William of Wales  (b 1982), son of The Prince of Wales
  2. HRH Prince Henry of Wales  (b 1984), son of The Prince of Wales
  3. HRH The Duke of York  (The Prince Andrew; b 1960), son of Queen Elizabeth II
  4. HRH Princess Beatrice of York  (b 1988), daughter of The Duke of York
  5. HRH Princess Eugenie of York  (b 1990), daughter of The Duke of York
  6. HRH The Earl of Wessex  (The Prince Edward; b 1964), son of Queen Elizabeth II
  7. James, Viscount Severn  (b 2007), son of The Earl of Wessex
  8. Lady Louise Windsor  (b 2003), daughter of The Earl of Wessex
  9. HRH The Princess Royal  (The Princess Anne; b 1950), daughter of Queen Elizabeth II
  10. Peter Phillips  (b 1977), son of The Princess Royal
  11. Zara Phillips  (b 1981), daughter of The Princess Royal

If Charles dies before Elizabeth, his decendants "lose out."  Strip off 2 and 3.  You can't pass the Crown if you don't have it.  My scenario is The Queen outlives Charles, but not Andrew.  The Crown passes first to LIVING children.

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RE: Who then replaces the queen? - 1/26/2010 2:54:40 PM   
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Status: offline 		God save the queen
The fascist regime
They made you a moron
Potential H-bomb

God save the queen
She ain't no human being
There is no future
In England's dreaming

Don't be told what you want
Don't be told what you need
There's no future, no future,
No future for you

God save the queen
We mean it man
We love our queen
God saves

God save the queen
'Cause tourists are money
And our figurehead
Is not what she seems

Oh God save history
God save your mad parade
Oh Lord God have mercy
All crimes are paid

When there's no future
How can there be sin
We're the flowers in the dustbin
We're the poison in your human machine
We're the future, your future

God save the queen
We mean it man
We love our queen
God saves

God save the queen
We mean it man
And there is no future
In England's dreaming

No future, no future,
No future for you
No future, no future,
No future for me

No future, no future,
No future for you
No future, no future
For you


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RE: Who then replaces the queen? - 1/26/2010 2:57:45 PM   
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Both wrong.

 
Nope... I was correct.
 
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The little nazi Harry would be next idiot in line after Wiily.
 
 
I know.  That's what I indicated.  Charles... then william(Ist in Line after Charles)  then Harry (2nd in Line).... then Andrew(3rd in Line).
If Charles had died... that would make Andrew 2nd.
 
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But seriously, who gives a fuck about this overpaid inbred bunch of snobs. Against the wall with the lot of them.

Some people do care obviously... they bring in enough tourism for that to be the case.  Meh...

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RE: Who then replaces the queen? - 1/26/2010 3:00:45 PM   
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Both wrong. The little nazi Harry would be next idiot in line after Wiily.

But seriously, who gives a fuck about this overpaid inbred bunch of snobs. Against the wall with the lot of them.

I care...it'll take fucking ages and loads of money replacing all those, stamps, coins and banknotes.

They'd better get someone with the same double chin on profile, so with all due respect it must be Harry. Then nobody will notice the difference and we can save money on the rebranding effort.


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RE: Who then replaces the queen? - 1/26/2010 3:04:41 PM   
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But seriously, who gives a fuck about this overpaid inbred bunch of snobs. Against the wall with the lot of them.


Well... they get American tourists into the country for a start  .

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RE: Who then replaces the queen? - 1/26/2010 3:05:09 PM   
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Some people do care obviously
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Ok, people that matter don't care. A few tea towel salesmen don't count.
 
No one visits Britain because it has a Royal family.
 
Eat the rich, redistribute the wealth. You go against the wall.

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RE: Who then replaces the queen? - 1/26/2010 3:06:01 PM   
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Eat the rich, redistribute the wealth.


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RE: Who then replaces the queen? - 1/26/2010 3:13:43 PM   
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If Charles dies before Elizabeth, his decendants "lose out."  Strip off 2 and 3.  You can't pass the Crown if you don't have it.  My scenario is The Queen outlives Charles, but not Andrew.  The Crown passes first to LIVING children.

Only a 'Wales' can become King.  Andrew would have to become the prince of wales.
Regardless of whom dies first, according to the Royal Settlement the oldest legitimate offspring becomes King/Queen - males first.  Must not be a Catholic nor Roman Catholic or anyone whom marries a RC cannot become monach.
http://www.royal.gov.uk/ThecurrentRoyalFamily/Successionandprecedence/Succession/Overview.aspx

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RE: Who then replaces the queen? - 1/26/2010 3:20:59 PM   
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Well... they get American tourists into the country for a start .

Yeah but they never actually meet her so all we need to do is find someone that looks the same from a distance. I know the op likes conspiracy theories but amazingly has not yet cottoned onto the fact the Queen was replaced with a body double years ago.


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RE: Who then replaces the queen? - 1/26/2010 3:41:36 PM   
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one thing's for sure: neither father nor son will have the same majestic deportment as good old Lizzie.


Au contraire! HRH Charles sports a skirt in much more style.




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RE: Who then replaces the queen? - 1/26/2010 3:57:43 PM   
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Status: offline 		The OP coulda, shoulda, woulda gone and done his own research.

My scenario is that Charles dies and then the Queen dies.  The Crown passes to Andrew.  Children FIRST.

The (partial) line of succession above is CURRENT!  It is dynamic depending on births and deaths!  Let's say William fathers a (legitimate) child without either the Queen or Charles dying...... Guess what! That child, whether boy or girl is now between William and Henry.

If Charles AND Andrew AND Edward AND Anne all die before the Queen.... THEN William (and his descendants) are next.

I don't know what your source is on Wales...... please don't make up things.  The family surname (when needed) is Mountbatten-Windsor



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RE: Who then replaces the queen? - 1/26/2010 4:03:50 PM   
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