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RE: Tom Tebow's Mom. - 1/29/2010 5:08:55 PM   
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It strikes me as evil- actually, truly evil- that "Health Care for All" could possibly be considered controversial.


Amen, brother.

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RE: Tom Tebow's Mom. - 1/29/2010 5:10:16 PM   
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I believe in freedom of speech.... but not when that speech stifles the voices of over half the pupulation and their beliefs.


Balderdash.
No voice- that is, NOT ONE voice, is being muffled, much less "stifled"; more than half the population (of this country) supports commonsense restraints on abortion; and it is, clearly and in any case, not majority speech that needs protection. Wrong on all counts.
Balderdash.

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RE: Tom Tebow's Mom. - 1/29/2010 5:21:30 PM   
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I'm with you. Never let the opposition, in any debate, use euphemisms to hide evil.

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RE: Tom Tebow's Mom. - 1/29/2010 5:34:04 PM   
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and your anti abortion feelings are blatant... why not just come out and say so?

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RE: Tom Tebow's Mom. - 1/29/2010 5:37:11 PM   
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Slate has an interesting article about this:
http://www.slate.com/id/2242960/

I thought that was a great article. Thanks.

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RE: Tom Tebow's Mom. - 1/29/2010 5:40:05 PM   
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lol

and your anti abortion feelings are blatant... why not just come out and say so?

I have never dreamed of imagining of  wondering of thinking if I should try to hide my anti-abortion beliefs.

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RE: Tom Tebow's Mom. - 1/29/2010 5:45:49 PM   
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Status: offline 		and you are completely right to have such thoughts, and a willingness to express them. as is every person allowed their own views. however, to state others are wrong to NOT hold your views IS wrong. and should make you contemplate why you feel that way.

lol... and your sentence is a tad bit wordy, really saying everything and, yet, nothing at all. as i expected.

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RE: Tim Tebow's Mom. - 1/29/2010 5:47:01 PM   
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Status: offline 		Usually I have the remote and I avoid watching commercials but I look forward to hearing what the lady has to say. I doubt she can change my mind that a woman has the right to do what she wants to her own body. As if men would accept someone else telling them what to do if men were having babies. And I will never believe embryos have souls. I don’t like late term abortions and I don’t think the doctors who do it take it lightly. I think late term abortions are done because of health of the mother like the doctor who was murdered said during an interview of him I saw; what he said was very reasonable. There is no melt down or fuss from me.

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RE: Tom Tebow's Mom. - 1/29/2010 5:49:49 PM   
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and you are completely right to have such thoughts, and a willingness to express them. as is every person allowed their own views. however, to state others are wrong to NOT hold your views IS wrong. and should make you contemplate why you feel that way.

lol... and your sentence is a tad bit wordy, really saying everything and, yet, nothing at all. as i expected.


That sentence was meant as a takeoff of the Churchill line describing, I think, Russia...

IMO, everyone who has ever expressed an opinion said by doing so that the opinions of others are wrong... or why didn't he change his mind?

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RE: Tom Tebow's Mom. - 1/29/2010 5:51:25 PM   
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The jury deliberated for just 37 minutes before finding Scott Roeder, 51, of Kansas City, Mo., guilty of premeditated, first-degree murder in the May 31 shooting death.


DOes this change the tone of this debate at all?

Is this pro-life?

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RE: Tim Tebow's Mom. - 1/29/2010 5:52:37 PM   
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Usually I have the remote and I avoid watching commercials but I look forward to hearing what the lady has to say. I doubt she can change my mind that a woman has the right to do what she wants to her own body. As if men would accept someone else telling them what to do if men were having babies. And I will never believe embryos have souls. I don’t like late term abortions and I don’t think the doctors who do it take it lightly. I think late term abortions are done because of health of the mother like the doctor who was murdered said during an interview of him I saw; what he said was very reasonable. There is no melt down or fuss from me.


If I have the right to do what I want with my body, why do I have to pay child support if she proves paternity?
Just looking for a little consistency here....    there are so many surefire arguments against that "her own body" riff that I tire of making them, and it's a side issue anyway.

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RE: Tom Tebow's Mom. - 1/29/2010 5:53:00 PM   
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and you are completely right to have such thoughts, and a willingness to express them. as is every person allowed their own views. however, to state others are wrong to NOT hold your views IS wrong. and should make you contemplate why you feel that way.

lol... and your sentence is a tad bit wordy, really saying everything and, yet, nothing at all. as i expected.


That sentence was meant as a takeoff of the Churchill line describing, I think, Russia...

IMO, everyone who has ever expressed an opinion said by doing so that the opinions of others are wrong... or why didn't he change his mind?


tazzy doesnt understand the concept of moral equivalency/supremacy yet

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RE: Tim Tebow's Mom. - 1/29/2010 6:00:41 PM   
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Usually I have the remote and I avoid watching commercials but I look forward to hearing what the lady has to say. I doubt she can change my mind that a woman has the right to do what she wants to her own body. As if men would accept someone else telling them what to do if men were having babies. And I will never believe embryos have souls. I don’t like late term abortions and I don’t think the doctors who do it take it lightly. I think late term abortions are done because of health of the mother like the doctor who was murdered said during an interview of him I saw; what he said was very reasonable. There is no melt down or fuss from me.


If I have the right to do what I want with my body, why do I have to pay child support if she proves paternity?
Just looking for a little consistency here....    there are so many surefire arguments against that "her own body" riff that I tire of making them, and it's a side issue anyway.


Because you DID what you wanted with your body, abandoned your sperm, and left them in the care of another. Sorta like kids with a babysitter. Pst... you are still responsible.

But your argument would lean more towards the abotion end, not the anti-abortion. Even men who claim they are against always fall back to this argument, showing they are all for it, as long as they dont have to be responsible for their own actions, and the outcome of said actions.

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RE: Tom Tebow's Mom. - 1/29/2010 6:03:08 PM   
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WICHITA, Kan. - A man who said he killed prominent Kansas abortion provider Dr. George Tiller in order to save the lives of unborn children was convicted Friday of murder.
The jury deliberated for just 37 minutes before finding Scott Roeder, 51, of Kansas City, Mo., guilty of premeditated, first-degree murder in the May 31 shooting death.


DOes this change the tone of this debate at all?

Is this pro-life?


It's pro-murder. Which is prolife.

God. Those people are fucked up!

Murder is pro-life... it's enough to shoot oneself in the head.

Pro life!!! Yay! I'll do it!!!


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RE: Tim Tebow's Mom. - 1/29/2010 6:18:50 PM   
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Usually I have the remote and I avoid watching commercials but I look forward to hearing what the lady has to say. I doubt she can change my mind that a woman has the right to do what she wants to her own body. As if men would accept someone else telling them what to do if men were having babies. And I will never believe embryos have souls. I don’t like late term abortions and I don’t think the doctors who do it take it lightly. I think late term abortions are done because of health of the mother like the doctor who was murdered said during an interview of him I saw; what he said was very reasonable. There is no melt down or fuss from me.


If I have the right to do what I want with my body, why do I have to pay child support if she proves paternity?
Just looking for a little consistency here....    there are so many surefire arguments against that "her own body" riff that I tire of making them, and it's a side issue anyway.


Because you DID what you wanted with your body, abandoned your sperm, and left them in the care of another. Sorta like kids with a babysitter. Pst... you are still responsible.

But your argument would lean more towards the abotion end, not the anti-abortion. Even men who claim they are against always fall back to this argument, showing they are all for it, as long as they dont have to be responsible for their own actions, and the outcome of said actions.


No no no. You don't get to tell me what my positions are.
I would force DNA from every man accused of fathering children, and damned well collect child support from him. I'm tired of paying for the little bastards.

As far as looking for consistency, while I admit it is evil following evil, or two wrongs not making a right- if she gets to kill the baby, so do I.

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RE: Tim Tebow's Mom. - 1/29/2010 6:19:42 PM   
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~smiles

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RE: Tim Tebow's Mom. - 1/29/2010 6:23:07 PM   
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Only if i get to chop off your balls.

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Right. So we should subject women to forced hysterectomies? Clitorectomies? Both?

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RE: Tim Tebow's Mom. - 1/29/2010 6:27:20 PM   
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Status: offline 		Hardly, however, a hysterectomy is a possible outcome of abortions. An abortion is not without its complications, unlike shoving your cock into a wet cunt and abandoning your sperm, whistling like a cocky bastard thinking you have had another notch, until you realized you played, and got burned when they paternity papers show up on your door. A woman doesnt play alone.... and she pays for the outcome of the encounter. A man should pay as well. Dont like the system? dont play the game.t

To go back to my statement, no man has the right to tell a woman what to do with her body. Just like a woman doesnt have the right to tell a man. But the product of the union between the two is left to the woman to care for. Man up or grab your balls and run. Either way, once you cum, its out of your "hands".

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RE: Tom Tebow's Mom. - 1/29/2010 6:29:43 PM   
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Pro abortion= pushing women to aborting their viable fetus

Pro choice = letting the woman make an informed choice about her many possible choices
My body=my choice, not yours, ever....




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RE: Tom Tebow's Mom. - 1/29/2010 6:30:37 PM   
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