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servantforuse -> RE: Troops Out of Iraq by August 2010? (1/29/2010 6:19:06 PM)

Well Mia, he also said that the health care debates would be broadcast on C-Span. Have you seen one on there yet ?



luckydawg -> RE: Troops Out of Iraq by August 2010? (1/29/2010 6:41:05 PM)


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ORIGINAL: AnimusRex


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ORIGINAL: luckydawg
... having safe forward operating Bases like in Japan and Germany are incredibly usefull and contribute immensley to world stability.


Well, that is exactly my point. We concluded WWII over 60 years ago, and we still have bases there, and will probably have bases there for eternity.

So isn't it reasonable to expect that 60 years after we conclude the wars - err- fights- in Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Yemen, and Somalia, that people will continue to demand that we keep bases in all of there, to "contribute immensley to world stability"?

Which means we will never leave anywhere, but just continue to add more and more bases, in more and more countries, until we are so completely overextended we go bankrupt.

This is NOT what the Founders wished for our nation; this is NOT an American vision that they would recognize. This is an Imperial vision, a perversion of what America stands for.



So you actually think that every base we established durring WW2 is still there? Thats just nonsense.


You are kind of confused about logic and history also.



AnimusRex -> RE: Troops Out of Iraq by August 2010? (1/29/2010 7:12:49 PM)


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ORIGINAL: luckydawg
So you actually think that every base we established durring WW2 is still there? Thats just nonsense.
You are kind of confused about logic and history also.


Of course not; we did close a lot of them. But not all of them! We still have bases in Adak, Alaska, Greenland, Diego Garcia, Japan, Germany, England, and on and on and on, all dating from WWII.

War always, always, always enlarges the central government. Even if the government demobilizes afterwards, the government never shrinks back to its original size. No is alive today who can remember the government ever getting smaller, under any President or party. The longer we continue wars, the bigger the government gets.

There is no such thing as a small government, pro war position.



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