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sirsholly -> RE: breeding ? (2/3/2010 6:34:24 AM)

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Sorry for the hijack folks, go back to Breeding,


oh alright....if i must.

"oh Jim......." [:)]



GreedyTop -> RE: breeding ? (2/3/2010 6:34:24 AM)

Nah.. just a thank you gesture to her :)

*gropes Sunny*

Hmmmm..... groping could lead to actions that could lead to breeding.... YAY!! I'm on topic!!



sunshinemiss -> RE: breeding ? (2/3/2010 6:35:18 AM)

:: thud ::



Drifa -> RE: breeding ? (2/3/2010 7:10:33 AM)

Snipped to the point I want to talk about:

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ORIGINAL: lovingpet
He expects me to be human, and an intelligent and articulate one at that.  He knows I will not be able to meet everything he asks of me without reservations, fears, and even flat out resistance.  He also knows it is his job to lay out our path and make it one I am able to safely travel.


THIS is for me the definition of a master or dominant. God help me, I am about to use the word "true". A true master or dominant is going to take RESPONSIBILITY. That includes being responsible for the slave/sub's health and safety. Would a responsible master/dom encourage a 45 year old woman to become pregnant, knowing there are increased genetic risks for offspring? Knowing that there are serious health risks for the woman herself?

If the master/dom wants a child (however they mechanically arrange for its arrival, whether the "usual way", a gang bang, IVF, adoption or whatever) then I expect the master/dom to ALSO take responsibility for the health, welfare, and upbringing of the child.

Everything the OP has said screams of some fantasy utterly devoid of the responsibility and care-taking.

Even if we postulate a responsible, caring master, who intends to use IVF/genetic screening and assume full parental responsibility for the child, it's not really all that responsible to "breed" a woman of 40+.  Women over 40 are at a much higher risk of developing certain complications during pregnancy such as gestational diabetes, preeclampsia, placental abruption, and placenta previa. The miscarriage rate is very much increased. This is not something to undertake lightly, or without a lot of money in your pocket bankrolling the medical bills.

In short, I think the OP is living in a la-la fantasy land. No telling if her "master" is in the same la-la land with her. Again, I really think the correct statement is to step away from the kink and consider reality here.






Michael3001 -> RE: breeding ? (2/3/2010 9:22:29 AM)

Alighty. If you can't find a woman who'll let you breed, sperm banks will take your sperm long as you're not over 35 years old.
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ORIGINAL: EbonyDesires

Hell I'm still waiting for her, anyone woman, to grant me permission to join in in the procreation process. No woman wants my sperm. [8|] Jokes aside though - there's zero sane folks who don't know the woman's investment in the process far exceeds the mans so course she's gonna be pickier on what man gets a yay and what man gets a nay. If she's not wanting your sperm for procreation, you best go look elsewhere to find a woman who will. There's no such thing as forced breeding unless it rape but no man gets away with rape anymore, so there you go. Except in the prisons where bigger men sometimes rape smaller, lightweight men, unfortunately.

Out



FukinTroll -> RE: breeding ? (2/3/2010 11:24:11 AM)

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ORIGINAL: VideoAdminAlpha

Been a while since I've seen you...wonder who's turn it is today???? [;)]


Well... Trolls regenerate ya know... I just recovered from the last WAM you gave me *grumbles about the phenomenal cosmic power behind the little bitty avatar* On a side note... methinks your mail is filtered.

SSLLLLUUUURRRPP!



ElanSubdued -> RE: breeding ? (2/3/2010 11:29:37 AM)

ResidentSadist,

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Hey, I think LA is a good spirited sweetheart... She deserves to be "stroked" (or licked). [;)]


I realize the two of you reached blissful equilibrium several pages back.  Still, for completeness, I'll point out there are other places to lick in prelude to the denouement - the rising action, as it were.  Always tends to make the "juice muffin" more adaptable and pliant, and certainly that much juicier.  Of course, the same could be said for a sense of humour and a suave, gentlemanly approach.  LA didn't have a chance.  Then again, neither did you.  Gentleman meet a lady in every sense... intelligent, sophisticated, and elegant.  I'd not be so sure the bouquet (and its owner) won't have you begging. :-)

Elan.



GloriousMorning -> RE: breeding ? (2/3/2010 11:37:58 AM)

[:'(]



LadyAngelika -> RE: breeding ? (2/3/2010 11:48:23 AM)

Elan, you are such a chivalrous sweetie... but I think I'm already getting too much attention... or so says RedMagic1 ;-)

- LA



ElanSubdued -> RE: breeding ? (2/3/2010 12:02:18 PM)

You're welcome. :-)

Elan.



GloriousMorning -> RE: breeding ? (2/3/2010 4:15:52 PM)

I did catch the comment that was replaced with a period and then deleted (how'd that happen?).  I thought I'd enough nausea in the last month or so to last me a lifetime, yet I find myself back here..

In all actuality, it was the topic that caught my attention, and I've followed along the whole time with mixed feelings about it. I recently had a pregnancy that I did not plan for or expect, and the father was not supportive of any decision towards keeping the baby. It was through that and other life experiences that I came to realize how important a supportive partner really is, no matter your decision to "breed" or not to "breed". At least in the OP's case, it seems she has the support (financial and otherwise it seems) of her Dominant partner.

In my case, I was told by a former partner that had I been pregnant with his child that he would have made me keep it.  As you can guess my inner reaction was screaming "Like hell that would happen!", but outwardly I simply laughed and shook my head.

Do I think some one can "force" someone into the decision to have (or not have) a child with them ? Really no, I don't think so despite some believing that an owner would have such jurisdiction over their property. We still have basic human rights, and we as human beings, still have ultimate control over what happens to our bodies (I hope) and our lives. Perhaps they are experiencing a level of dynamics that I don't understand, but there is no way I could let anyone demand that I must have a child. That's far too deep a commitment to place on the desires of just one person.

Conversely, a great amount of men feel "forced" into parenthood, and in reality, since ultimately it is the mother that makes the decision or choice, they kind of are. Some step up to the plate and take responsibility, and some don't, unfortunately for the children they leave behind. Raising a child with only one responsible and dedicated parent is a horrible set of circumstances, and not one to be taken lightly.



Whiplashsmile4 -> RE: breeding ? (2/3/2010 5:11:49 PM)


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ORIGINAL: FukinTroll

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ORIGINAL: VideoAdminAlpha

Been a while since I've seen you...wonder who's turn it is today???? [;)]


Well... Trolls regenerate ya know... I just recovered from the last WAM you gave me *grumbles about the phenomenal cosmic power behind the little bitty avatar* On a side note... methinks your mail is filtered.

SSLLLLUUUURRRPP!



Is it just me thinking this?.... why is there a video admin amoung us lowly message board users? Are we soon to be freed from the chains of our keyboards and graced with a new and improved Video Message Board system? It's kinda of creepy not knowing (just saying).



thishereboi -> RE: breeding ? (2/3/2010 8:04:33 PM)

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ORIGINAL: GreedyTop

Nah.. just a thank you gesture to her :)

*gropes Sunny*

Hmmmm..... groping could lead to actions that could lead to breeding.... YAY!! I'm on topic!!



Ummm, greedy, I think your safe gropin sunny. You probably won't breed, but it could be fun trying.



ResidentSadist -> RE: breeding ? (2/3/2010 8:55:20 PM)



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ORIGINAL: ElanSubdued

ResidentSadist,

quote:

Hey, I think LA is a good spirited sweetheart... She deserves to be "stroked" (or licked). [;)]


I realize the two of you reached blissful equilibrium several pages back. Still, for completeness, I'll point out there are other places to lick in prelude to the denouement - the rising action, as it were. Always tends to make the "juice muffin" more adaptable and pliant, and certainly that much juicier. Of course, the same could be said for a sense of humour and a suave, gentlemanly approach. LA didn't have a chance. Then again, neither did you. Gentleman meet a lady in every sense... intelligent, sophisticated, and elegant. I'd not be so sure the bouquet (and its owner) won't have you begging. :-)

Elan.

You may be right and it is possible that LA and I have not reached our denouement, our final disposition so to speak. I believe in the power of feminine charm and machismo charisma.

However, although fate may one day have this gentleman come courting a lady as an equal, I wouldn’t find myself begging. It would be self-defeating and contradictory… like saying that seeing the Marlboro Man on a tricycle or John Wayne in a sissy maid dress would make them appealing. Begging and the ResidentSadist just don’t mix nor would they be attractive if they could mix.



subboi3382 -> RE: breeding ? (2/5/2010 12:02:06 AM)

yea i think so



GreedyTop -> RE: breeding ? (2/5/2010 12:27:36 AM)

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ORIGINAL: thishereboi

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ORIGINAL: GreedyTop

Nah.. just a thank you gesture to her :)

*gropes Sunny*

Hmmmm..... groping could lead to actions that could lead to breeding.... YAY!! I'm on topic!!



Ummm, greedy, I think your safe gropin sunny. You probably won't breed, but it could be fun trying.



Ohhhhhhhhhhhh yeeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh



PrimalConsonance -> RE: breeding ? (2/5/2010 5:33:24 AM)

I'm not looking for breeding or want to, but I was curious about the sperm banks:  They won't take you if you are over 35 years old?  I'm surprised to hear that, and didn't know there was a time limit on the little soldiers since there are so many 60+ celebrities pushing out little progenies as the "paternal familiaris".



Puckerpup -> RE: breeding ? (2/8/2010 11:36:00 AM)

There are a lot of things that can be fetishised, and made into as game, HAVING KIDS IS NOT ONE OF THEM. I have to agree with LadyAngelika on this one, in the perfect world, having kids would involve a license.



xssve -> RE: breeding ? (2/10/2010 6:41:47 AM)

It's ok, if the fetish is you like kids - in the ordinary way.

I agree with Pucker that fetishizing it in any other way is probably going to cause problems - i.e., it's very typical in Vanilla relationships to have kids to "save the marriage", etc., which is itself a sort of fetish, and not really a good reason to have kids.

Fact is, at some point people come up against the old biological clock, and logic doesn't always have a lot to do with it.

One of the reasons I've always been a bit jaundiced about prospective subs under 35 or so, is that I think it's likely they may suddenly decide they want to have children, leaving me no option but to let them go or breed them, as I've had a vasectomy.

Still, if I hadn't, it would be tempting, I do like kids. I'm probably a breeder at heart, and I think it would be fun to fetishize the whole process from the start, it is a fascinating and primal thing.

Bearing in mind that the fetish is about the process, not the result - once they're born, they're independent life that you're responsible for, and a lot of work; you can't just change your mind if you get tired of them.



littlewonder -> RE: breeding ? (2/10/2010 6:46:55 AM)

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ORIGINAL: PrimalConsonance

I'm not looking for breeding or want to, but I was curious about the sperm banks:  They won't take you if you are over 35 years old?  I'm surprised to hear that, and didn't know there was a time limit on the little soldiers since there are so many 60+ celebrities pushing out little progenies as the "paternal familiaris".



Once over the age of 35 the greater the chances of deformities, lower sperm count, higher number of contaminants.




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