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cuckoldmepls -> Obama Is Changing His Tune (2/2/2010 7:53:41 PM)

Probably due to plummeting poll ratings, and the last Senate race in Massachusetts where one of the most liberal states in the country voted for a moderate, I've noticed Obama has already begun to remake himself probably at the direction of his handlers. I seriously doubt he has enough common sense to do it himself, especially considering how arrogant he is.

Just a few days ago, he announced that we need nuclear energy to help minimize global warming. Isn't this what McCain and everyone with common sense has been saying? The wind doesn't always blow and the sun doesn't always shine, so common sense would tell you that wind and solar power is not the answer. Certainly it is part of the equation, but nuclear is the only real answer for the long term especially if they refuse to minimize Immigration, and eliminate Illegal Immigration. www.numbersusa.com

Then today I actually heard him say that government must learn to live within their means. Wow, the shit is really starting to get deep in here now isn't it, as if it wasn't before?

http://babelishere.webs.com

"When the government creates jobs with more spending, they have to take more and more of your paycheck in taxes or pass the debt on to our children which means they are giving billions in interest payments to wealthy people here and abroad and to other countries, not to mention still owing the debt.

When private industry creates jobs, you actually receive a product or a service when they take your money. Now which would you rather have?"


"Any time the government imposes, taxes, fees or penalties on corporations, small businesses, financial institutions, and energy companies; they have no choice but to eventually pass the cost on to the consumer. The same works with multi million dollar lawsuit settlements. Democrats promised you a middle class tax cut in order to get elected, knowing full well that they would get far more money out of you in the long run by blocking tort reform, and passing a multitude of backdoor taxes along with their socialized healthcare."

By the way, Palin is not the answer either. Half of the conservatives won't vote for her since she doesn't have a clue about the necessity for enforcing our Immigration laws. You might as well help spread the word now, otherwise Palin will destroy the election for us again just like McAmnesty did.




MzMia -> RE: Obama Is Changing His Tune (2/2/2010 8:00:04 PM)

my eyes, my eyes!
I must go wash them out, call ghostbusters,  then jump out of a window to get

away from this thread.
 
I am calling Ghostbusters for you cuckoldmepls, after I wash my eyes out.
 

Ghostbusters - Official Site




TheHeretic -> RE: Obama Is Changing His Tune (2/2/2010 8:00:46 PM)

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ORIGINAL: cuckoldmepls

will destroy the election for us again just like McAmnesty did.




Sorry, Cucko, but it was Bush II that cost Republicans the '08 race.  This needs to be accepted.




AnimusRex -> RE: Obama Is Changing His Tune (2/2/2010 8:06:59 PM)

And maybe people are finally noticing that Obama is a moderate Democrat, somewhere in the same political field as Johnson, Truman, or Kennedy.




MzMia -> RE: Obama Is Changing His Tune (2/2/2010 8:10:01 PM)

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ORIGINAL: AnimusRex

And maybe people are finally noticing that Obama is a moderate Democrat, somewhere in the same political field as Johnson, Truman, or Kennedy.



[sm=goodpost.gif]
Many of us, are hoping and praying.
At the very least, he is a zillion times better than the "bush" baby.




samboct -> RE: Obama Is Changing His Tune (2/2/2010 8:19:57 PM)

ust a few days ago, he announced that we need nuclear energy to help minimize global warming. Isn't this what McCain and everyone with common sense has been saying? The wind doesn't always blow and the sun doesn't always shine, so common sense would tell you that wind and solar power is not the answer. Certainly it is part of the equation, but nuclear is the only real answer for the long term especially if they refuse to minimize Immigration, and eliminate Illegal Immigration. www.numbersusa.com

Oh good grief!  Nuclear power the answer?  Yeah, right....You wanna trust an industry that first claimed that power would be too cheap to meter- doesn't pay for its own cleanup which is proving to be rather intractable (the ever screwed US taxpayer picks up that one- that's you and me...) and likely has inadequate insurance based on a pool provided for by federal mandate.  Plus, the industry is so secretive, they won't tell you what they need to develop better plants- only that we need more of them.

Better solutions-

Improved transmission, better storage technologies- flywheel, battery, ultracapacitor, more efficient hydro (probably a marginal improvement, although we've already got about 20 GW of hydro storage) will make renewables such as wind and solar a lot more viable.

I'll agree that clean coal should get thrown under the bus- it's a waste of money and violates the second law of thermodynamics.

Sam




AnimusRex -> RE: Obama Is Changing His Tune (2/2/2010 9:29:35 PM)


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ORIGINAL: MzMia
At the very least, he is a zillion times better than the "bush" baby.


To be fair here, that particular bar isn't all that high.

One might say it is resting comfortably in the basement.




Moonhead -> RE: Obama Is Changing His Tune (2/3/2010 5:48:12 AM)

McCain was pro nuclear power? News to me. What was all that shit he was spouting about more offshore drilling, then?




pahunkboy -> RE: Obama Is Changing His Tune (2/3/2010 5:50:49 AM)

no one source of energy is going to be the answer.

They want to build a nuclear plant at Berwick PA.  I support it.




Moonhead -> RE: Obama Is Changing His Tune (2/3/2010 5:54:29 AM)

McCain spent the whole of the '08 election bigging up oil and insisting that there was quite enough oil offshore to meet all America's energy needs for the forseeable future, though. I don't think he agreed with you on that, pahunk.




pahunkboy -> RE: Obama Is Changing His Tune (2/3/2010 5:56:58 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Moonhead

McCain spent the whole of the '08 election bigging up oil and insisting that there was quite enough oil offshore to meet all America's energy needs for the forseeable future, though. I don't think he agreed with you on that, pahunk.


I am not subject to the left/right paradigm.    Coke, Pepsi, Pepsi, Coke. Same thing.




DomImus -> RE: Obama Is Changing His Tune (2/3/2010 6:39:29 AM)

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ORIGINAL: cuckoldmepls
Probably due to plummeting poll ratings, and the last Senate race in Massachusetts where one of the most liberal states in the country voted for a moderate, I've noticed Obama has already begun to remake himself probably at the direction of his handlers. I seriously doubt he has enough common sense to do it himself, especially considering how arrogant he is.


He is arrogant but he's learning. I think he got swept up in his own hoopla during the election and now that has all come crashing down around him as he struggles in a position he was clearly unprepared for. I was amazed at his "one term president" comment recently. I never thought I'd hear anything like that come from him especially after only one year in the White House. It made me wonder if he is having second thoughts about all of this.




EbonyWood -> RE: Obama Is Changing His Tune (2/3/2010 6:46:59 AM)

Flexibility in office. It's about time.
 
8 years of pushing through a divisive agenda and narrow world view did enough permanent damage thanks.




Moonhead -> RE: Obama Is Changing His Tune (2/3/2010 8:15:59 AM)

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ORIGINAL: pahunkboy
I am not subject to the left/right paradigm.    Coke, Pepsi, Pepsi, Coke. Same thing.

I could take that argument a lot more seriously if you weren't taking a hard right stance most times you open your mouth on here, I'm afraid. Your stance reminds me a lot more of "independents" like Rush Limbaugh than somebody without any political affiliation.
(There's been a lot more right leaning independents about since the last election, I've noticed. Funny that.)




pahunkboy -> RE: Obama Is Changing His Tune (2/3/2010 9:56:15 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Moonhead

quote:

ORIGINAL: pahunkboy
I am not subject to the left/right paradigm.    Coke, Pepsi, Pepsi, Coke. Same thing.

I could take that argument a lot more seriously if you weren't taking a hard right stance most times you open your mouth on here, I'm afraid. Your stance reminds me a lot more of "independents" like Rush Limbaugh than somebody without any political affiliation.
(There's been a lot more right leaning independents about since the last election, I've noticed. Funny that.)



What you say- is that I do not fit into a box.






Musicmystery -> RE: Obama Is Changing His Tune (2/3/2010 9:57:21 AM)

I don't know. I think the Conspiracy Theorist box seems to fit you well...




philosophy -> RE: Obama Is Changing His Tune (2/3/2010 9:59:03 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

I don't know. I think the Conspiracy Theorist box seems to fit you well...


....i was going to type something along those lines. Different tack though. i'd suggest Pa's box is marked 'people who wont take their meds'. i've seen the members of that particular box many times before. Pa is quite typical.




Musicmystery -> RE: Obama Is Changing His Tune (2/3/2010 10:11:24 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Moonhead

McCain was pro nuclear power? News to me. What was all that shit he was spouting about more offshore drilling, then?


These are not mutually exclusive.

McCain did indeed promote expanding nuclear power.




mnottertail -> RE: Obama Is Changing His Tune (2/3/2010 10:42:22 AM)

cuck, you are once again and forever fucked up.


Steven Chu is very pro nuke and Obama hasn't ever spoken against it, and in fact has spoken for it several times.

Your bullshit is called.




rulemylife -> RE: Obama Is Changing His Tune (2/3/2010 1:35:05 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: DomImus

He is arrogant but he's learning. I think he got swept up in his own hoopla during the election and now that has all come crashing down around him as he struggles in a position he was clearly unprepared for. I was amazed at his "one term president" comment recently. I never thought I'd hear anything like that come from him especially after only one year in the White House. It made me wonder if he is having second thoughts about all of this.



Maybe he should just quit and write a book, he can call it "Going Obama" and then get a job on Fox News.




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