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idroolchicksrule -> Two birds one stone (2/6/2010 11:07:32 AM)

This neck of the internets is filled with men that have curious dilemma: they have a thing for cuckolding and no outlet for it. I realize that there are other people with other fetishes in the same boat, but we can only make the world a better place one solution at a time, and he's mine:
Date strippers.
Easier said that done right? Like they would want anything to do with you?
Well true. But You have to admit there are some serious perks to being a stripper and being in to cuckoldry. (Now I'm going to generalize here. I realize that all strippers are not the same just as women or all people are not the same. SO please don't hate.)
Usually the biggest, oldest and most obvious problem for hetro, vanilla strippers is that after while the dude who's awesome and cool with her nightjob get's a little jealous and serious drama occurs. With a cuckold he is seriously getting turned on by what she does on a nightly basis. I'm not talking about sex or anything. Just dancing for men and the occasional lap dance.
He also could have 101 uses after that: designated driver, late night food runner, etc. He could do normal house work or just relax at home while she's out dancing. Better yet he could wear a chastity belt while she wears the key during her act. He could pick her up from the club and if she brought home a guy...yeah you get it by now.
Anyway just wanted to toss that out there. I know that a LOT of guys are into this compared to the amount of female doms who are. THen again there are usually more men into something than there are Dom for that something. I'm sure no one in the community would miss the overflow.
Thanks for reading.




LadyAngelika -> RE: Two birds one stone (2/6/2010 11:24:03 AM)

I know a few men who've dated strippers and they weren't cuckholds. In fact, they were quite dominant. The strippers I have met, and I really haven't met that many to be honest, have been more submissive in personality. That said, I'm sure there are FemDommes strippers who get off on the attention of watching men drool. My instinct would tell me that they are even more rare then FemDommes into cuckholdry.

That said, the most important thing is to date someone who suits you. I would caution you not to pigeon hold the kind of women you want to date based on their occupation but rather on the genuine dynamic you can develop with them.

- LA




LadyPact -> RE: Two birds one stone (2/6/2010 12:24:03 PM)

I'm wondering what you base the stripper analogy/theory on?  Is this your personal experience?  I tend to think it is more conjecture on your part, based on your kink, of what you may feel would work.  Like LadyA, those who I've been acquainted with in that profession, if they were lifestyle folks, she was more likely to be submissive.

Those of us who have had cuckholds in the past are quite good about the 101 uses part.




idroolchicksrule -> RE: Two birds one stone (2/6/2010 8:14:23 PM)

Very good points from the both of you. The post is intended to be more humorous than something actually happening. And there MAY be some projection on my end...but no I'm not talking life style folks at all. I'm talking about your run of the mill strippers taking on a cuck as a "boyfriend". Its a play (the joke that is) on the customer/stripper relationship and an idealized notion that someone who gets off on the promiscuity of their partner should date someone who does that for a living. That's all. If only the world worked that way.




AcademyForSlaves -> RE: Two birds one stone (2/6/2010 8:32:43 PM)

Hi.

Gee I hope I don't have to be a stripper to get a man who's into all that you said.

If a guy like that exists send him my way!!




idroolchicksrule -> RE: Two birds one stone (2/6/2010 8:39:53 PM)

I can already HEAR your inbox being flooded.....




AngelofAgony -> RE: Two birds one stone (2/7/2010 3:03:22 PM)

On the flip side its really hard for a cuckoldress to find a decent bull too.  




ElanSubdued -> RE: Two birds one stone (2/9/2010 1:37:44 PM)

idroolchicksrule,

quote:

Usually the biggest, oldest and most obvious problem for hetro, vanilla strippers is that after a while the dude who's awesome and cool with her night job gets a little jealous and serious drama occurs.  With a cuckold he is seriously getting turned on by what she does on a nightly basis.  I'm not talking about sex or anything.  Just dancing for men and the occasional lap dance.  He also could have 101 uses after that: designated driver, late night food runner, etc.  He could do normal house work or just relax at home while she's out dancing.  Better yet he could wear a chastity belt while she wears the key during her act.  He could pick her up from the club and if she brought home a guy... yeah you get it by now.


What you've written may well be workable for some couples.  However, I think it's important to point out that every couple is different and every cuckold dynamic is unique.  There are cuckees who wouldn't be turned on by their partner being out playing/fucking just anyone - no matter what reasoning this is dressed up under.  Similarly, a cuckoldress doesn't necessarily want a partner whose fetish/sex drive is driven by seeing them continuously flirt/have sex with others.  Still, I see where your logic is going and with the right mutual interest and communication, what you've suggested could be workable.  From the cuckee's side of things though, looking for a partner who is a stripper *because* you think they'll be more likely to accept your kink seems a bit overly hopeful, if not misguided.  Conversely, were I a woman, a stripper, and a cuckoldress, I'm not so sure I'd be turned on by the idea that a suitor desired me because his cuckold fetish fit my work life.  Then again, I'm neither a woman, nor stripper, nor cuckoldress so I probably can't speak with validity in any of these regards.

Elan.




LadyPact -> RE: Two birds one stone (2/9/2010 1:44:50 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: AngelofAgony

On the flip side its really hard for a cuckoldress to find a decent bull too.  

Thankfully, an issue that I've never had.




ElanSubdued -> RE: Two birds one stone (2/9/2010 1:50:55 PM)

quote:

LadyPact to idroolchicksrule:
Like LadyA, those who I've been acquainted with in that profession, if they were lifestyle folks, she was more likely to be submissive.


And I'll add... there are a lots of strippers who aren't kinky (in the BDSM sense) and who have no interest in playing around/sleeping around.  It seems a bit of a long shot to speculate that strippers, as a demographic, are a better dating pool for those into cuckoldery.  Note, I realize this is the OP's speculation, not Lady Pact's.

Elan.




ElanSubdued -> RE: Two birds one stone (2/9/2010 1:57:22 PM)

quote:

LadyAngelika to idroolchicksrule:
That said, the most important thing is to date someone who suits you.  I would caution you not to pigeon hold the kind of women you want to date based on their occupation but rather on the genuine dynamic you can develop with them.


This is supremely good advice.

Elan.




LadyPact -> RE: Two birds one stone (2/9/2010 2:00:45 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: ElanSubdued

quote:

LadyPact to idroolchicksrule:
Like LadyA, those who I've been acquainted with in that profession, if they were lifestyle folks, she was more likely to be submissive.


And I'll add... there are a lots of strippers who aren't kinky (in the BDSM sense) and who have no interest in playing around/sleeping around.  It seems a bit of a long shot to speculate that strippers, as a demographic, are a better dating pool for those into cuckoldery.  Note, I realize this is the OP's speculation, not Lady Pact's.

Elan.


Quite true.  Another tidbit on this is that most strippers see their audience as nothing more than pigeons, anyway.  They tend to laugh at the silliness of them buying lap dance after lap dance while they crack up over how dumb they are for throwing their money away.




PeonForHer -> RE: Two birds one stone (2/9/2010 2:19:08 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: LadyPact Another tidbit on this is that most strippers see their audience as nothing more than pigeons, anyway.  They tend to laugh at the silliness of them buying lap dance after lap dance while they crack up over how dumb they are for throwing their money away.



Not if the strippers happen to be male and the audience, female.  In this case the strippers tend to see the audience as not much less than crocodiles.




littlesarbonn -> RE: Two birds one stone (2/9/2010 3:23:52 PM)

I dated two strippers once (yeah, at the same time) who were both also somewhat well-known dominants. Neither one was interested in cuckholding (at least not in any discussion with me) but they were interested in the service I had to offer them.

The point is: There are all sorts and stripes of every flavor. Not too many people fit into stereotypes, and my experience has shown me that relying on stereotype can get you kicked to the curb pretty fast (and not in a cool, fun way).




MzLillysRealm -> RE: Two birds one stone (2/10/2010 9:51:21 AM)

Well I have done it to my subs in the past and would do it again..please don't take that as I sleep around because my pants come off only for the elite....however, it seems the obvious solution is not being discussed....if you want to be a cuckold then it is not a stripper your need to date.  I really doubt that if a scientific study was done that it would find strippers to be a abnormally promiscuous bunch (I would actually guess it would trend the other way since they would have hours of dealing with drunken men pawing at them).  They get naked for money but that doesn't make them whores or sluts.

So what is the solution?  How about dating escorts or hookers?  What about looking for a girl into swinging?  What about women with exhibitionism/voyeurism fetishes? What about women who fantasize about gang bangs? Etc.  Deconstruct the elements needed and who might best fit into those categories. (and stop making sweeping generalizations about things/people that cannot be proven)

But before you do anything make sure you step back and understand what elements attract you to being a cuckold.  Is it submission? humiliation? degradation? is it the feeling of helplessness?  or is it just liking watching people having sex or does it have to be someone you are dating to count?  Do you have to be in the room or can you just be watching from a remote location?  Do you want to be restrained while it is happening or do you want complete mobility?  If you go into this expecting to get any D/s elements from it while engaging in it from a wholly vanilla standpoint you are apt to be disappointed.  Conversely, if you don't want the D/s elements then doing within a submissive role would be unsatisfying.  The basic idea is "look before you leap so you know where you will land".

Lilly




LookieNoNookie -> RE: Two birds one stone (2/12/2010 3:56:02 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: AcademyForSlaves

Hi.

Gee I hope I don't have to be a stripper to get a man who's into all that you said.

If a guy like that exists send him my way!!


I'm sorry but, yes...you have to be a stripper to get a guy like that.

(Sorry, I don't write the rules here).




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