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WantingToServe11 -> RE: Just Pick a theory, a short list of conspiracy theories (2/7/2010 10:27:37 PM)

Wasn't it Napoleon who said "history are lies that everyone agrees with"?




EbonyWood -> RE: Just Pick a theory, a short list of conspiracy theories (2/7/2010 10:30:39 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Real0ne

LOL

Why do you ask? trying to make a funny maybe?  I live and do what you only dream about.



Yes LOL we all dream LOL of one day LOL also being LOL demented conspiracists LOL




Real0ne -> RE: Just Pick a theory, a short list of conspiracy theories (2/7/2010 10:57:47 PM)

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ORIGINAL: WantingToServe11

Wasn't it Napoleon who said "history are lies that everyone agrees with"?


Yeh the boys on top know dont they!

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ORIGINAL: EbonyWood

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ORIGINAL: Real0ne

LOL

Why do you ask? trying to make a funny maybe?  I live and do what you only dream about.



Yes LOL we all dream LOL of one day LOL also being LOL demented conspiracists LOL


How can you not grasp something so simple?

When the government claims there is a conspiracy that makes THEM the conspiracy theorist and I am ripping it apart.

That makes me the conspiracy debunker.  Every time you want to call me a CT just repeat to yourself 19 hijackers or was that 12?










Termyn8or -> RE: Just Pick a theory, a short list of conspiracy theories (2/7/2010 11:45:11 PM)

Real, you better burn one. Heavy water is not required for a fusion reaction, you should know that.

At any rate, there will be a control box. It will have water lines in it as the containment coils are tubing, with coolant pumped through the core continuously. What you need to find is the electrical connection to one main coil, pretty much in the front or whatever direction you want to shoot it. Note that it is very hard to move and therefore aim. You take a huge screwdriver and somehow fuck it up, you might be able to short it out, but really I would prefeer to sever one of the wires to the coil. Shorting it out has the advantage of focussing it better, because the coil will inhibit the formation of another magnetic field. This gives it better direction and can be likened to rifling the barrel of a gun. With the coil open the pattern will splay more, and be more imprecise. Either way you are dead if you are in the room. That level of radiation, and I don't even mean gamma rays and shit, just the plasma body burns like the sun, and when it is within a few feet of you, you are toast, and done quite quickly I might add.

We can get specs on the mass of the plasma body, we can get certain other information, but we can't determine the initial velocity of the mass, therefore it is near impossible to aim with any certainty. What;s more, I really have no idea what would be the perfect target anyway.

So here I sit.

T




jlf1961 -> RE: Just Pick a theory, a short list of conspiracy theories (2/8/2010 5:39:55 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Real0ne

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ORIGINAL: thornhappy
Kind of like when you disappeared the last time - you were going to set up a fusion reactor in your back yard.  Is it working yet?



I did build a table model that worked great and I have a kick ass automated design that when I get serious about it again I will throw together!   I was quite depressed when I found out that there was no way in hell I could get nuke waste in large quantities, (it converts it to helium), and heavy water was over 500 bucks an ounce so that was a bit depressing, not that you have to have it but you can get ludicrous outputs with the good shit.
 
So anyway I got side tracked LOL   My furnace rotted out so I needed something quick so instead of buying one decided to design a burn anything furnace instead that burns any kind of fuel you can shove, pump or throw in it.

Oh yeh and regardless of what you put in it, it burns damn near completely smokeless and well into the high 90's efficiency LOL


Why do you ask? trying to make a funny maybe?  I live and do what you only dream about.


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I really hate to tell you this, but at present, the smallest fusion reactor is the Joint European Torus, which takes up a hanger sized building Culham, Oxfordshire, UK. Using hydrogen to start the reaction to fuse Hydrogen nuclei into helium atoms creating a plasma. At present the amount of energy required to initiate the reaction is greater than the amount of energy produced AND the longest sustained reaction has been less than a minute.

Anyone claiming to have created a smaller reactor would be rich beyond the wildest dreams of Bill Gates simply because he would have single handedly put the power companies out of business.

In other words, it cant be done.




Real0ne -> RE: Just Pick a theory, a short list of conspiracy theories (2/8/2010 7:34:31 AM)

Huh?

I wasnt talkin about an antique.

Just what MIT and the DOE said could not be done LMAO





jlf1961 -> RE: Just Pick a theory, a short list of conspiracy theories (2/8/2010 7:51:32 AM)

When you need a few MILLION megawatts of power to initiate a fusion reaction pretty much eliminates the possibility of a back yard fusion reactor. If you had developed one, then why are you not rich and why the hell are we still dealing with fossil fuels?

The point is that the only sustainable fusion reaction that is producing more energy than it took to initiate is the sun.

By the way, MIT does not have a fusion reactor in use, neither does the DOE. The only fusion reactors presently being used are at the JET facility in Oxfordshire UK, CERN, Lawrence Livermore Laboratory in California and one under construction in South Korea.

The JET and CERN facilities are TORUS or ring reactors, housed in hanger sized buildings, the Lawrence Livermore unit uses a thousand lasers to attempt to initiate the reaction (which to date have failed to start a fusion reaction even for a split second) and the Korean unit will be another TORUS design but incorporating laser initiators.

There is a theory, one of the conspiracy theories that abound about Area 51 that they are using a fusion reactor for power from a recovered UFO, however that has not been substantiated. It is also of low probability since, due to the energy crisis, it would benefit the government to release the technology into mainstream use.

If you have accomplished what you claim, and actually have a small working fusion reactor, I challenge you to release the information to the news media and make your fortune.




thishereboi -> RE: Just Pick a theory, a short list of conspiracy theories (2/8/2010 8:10:35 AM)

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ORIGINAL: kittinSol

You're preaching to the persuaded - those that would most benefit from this kind of research have their index fingers firmly planted in their ears. They're too busy devouring what's coming out of YouTube to listen to reason [&:][:(][&o] .


When I read this I though it was a bit of a snarky reply, then I kept reading and the youtube links started popping up and now I am thinking maybe it wasn't so snarky after all.




Real0ne -> RE: Just Pick a theory, a short list of conspiracy theories (2/8/2010 8:52:59 AM)

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ORIGINAL: thishereboi

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ORIGINAL: kittinSol

You're preaching to the persuaded - those that would most benefit from this kind of research have their index fingers firmly planted in their ears. They're too busy devouring what's coming out of YouTube to listen to reason [&:][:(][&o] .


When I read this I though it was a bit of a snarky reply, then I kept reading and the youtube links started popping up and now I am thinking maybe it wasn't so snarky after all.



do you have any idea how foolish people that knock utube look?


Watch video here Hide video Lec 16 | MIT 3.091 Introduction to Solid State Chemistry

I wonder what the motive could be for that?  Hmmmm?





Real0ne -> RE: Just Pick a theory, a short list of conspiracy theories (2/8/2010 8:56:05 AM)

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ORIGINAL: jlf1961

When you need a few MILLION megawatts of power to initiate a fusion reaction pretty much eliminates the possibility of a back yard fusion reactor. If you had developed one, then why are you not rich and why the hell are we still dealing with fossil fuels?

The point is that the only sustainable fusion reaction that is producing more energy than it took to initiate is the sun.

By the way, MIT does not have a fusion reactor in use, neither does the DOE. The only fusion reactors presently being used are at the JET facility in Oxfordshire UK, CERN, Lawrence Livermore Laboratory in California and one under construction in South Korea.

The JET and CERN facilities are TORUS or ring reactors, housed in hanger sized buildings, the Lawrence Livermore unit uses a thousand lasers to attempt to initiate the reaction (which to date have failed to start a fusion reaction even for a split second) and the Korean unit will be another TORUS design but incorporating laser initiators.

There is a theory, one of the conspiracy theories that abound about Area 51 that they are using a fusion reactor for power from a recovered UFO, however that has not been substantiated. It is also of low probability since, due to the energy crisis, it would benefit the government to release the technology into mainstream use.

If you have accomplished what you claim, and actually have a small working fusion reactor, I challenge you to release the information to the news media and make your fortune.


you keep talking about these old junky antiques.  mine ran about 150 to 200 watts input.




kittinSol -> RE: Just Pick a theory, a short list of conspiracy theories (2/8/2010 9:16:01 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Real0ne

I wonder what the motive could be for that?  Hmmmm?



I diss your YouTube links and other assorted bollocks because they threaten my omnipotence - I am after all part of the Jewish plot to rule over you. You fuckhead.  




Rule -> RE: Just Pick a theory, a short list of conspiracy theories (2/8/2010 10:08:51 AM)

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ORIGINAL: jlf1961
The CIA and the Air Force concealed the fact that a “UFO” crashed near Roswell, NM

Yes.

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ORIGINAL: jlf1961
The virus responsible for AIDS was created in a government laboratory and then deliberately released

Yes.

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ORIGINAL: jlf1961
The CIA deliberately allowed, and in some cases was actively involved in, the importation of narcotics.

Yes.

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ORIGINAL: jlf1961
Lee Harvey Oswald didn't act alone (or possibly at all).

Princess Diana was killed on purpose.

The government was involved in 9/11.

Indeed to all three.

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ORIGINAL: jlf1961
Elvis never really left the building.

I have no idea what this is about. I think he died when they said that he died.

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ORIGINAL: jlf1961
The 1969 Apollo moon landing didn't happen.

No.

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ORIGINAL: jlf1961
Reptilian humanoids control all of us.

No. They are simply ordinary high IQ psychopaths.

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ORIGINAL: jlf1961
The 1993 World Trade Center bombing was orchestrated by the Federal Bureau of Investigation.

It is likely that it was orchestrated, yes. Dunno about the FBI.

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ORIGINAL: jlf1961
The Montauk Project would put government trained psychics (Duncan Cameron) into a program with the intent of mind control, time travel, and even mental manifestation. Although denied by the government, a few (Preston Nichols, Al Bielek) have given lectures and written books on the subject.

I dunno about that. I do think that I once teleported a bird, but I cannot swear to it as I had my eyes closed. That was about 35 years ago. I was so shakingly shocked by the experience - it was contrary to everything I knew and believed in about the universe - that I never tried it again.

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ORIGINAL: jlf1961
High Frequency Active Auroral Research Program theory claims that HAARP could be used as directed-energy weapon, weather control, earthquake induction device and/or for mind control

Maybe. I would like to see the calculations.

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ORIGINAL: jlf1961
Philadelphia Experiment- An attempt to turn a ship invisible that allegedly caused severe harm to onboard crewmembers.

Maybe. I suspect that they have something else and better nowadays.

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ORIGINAL: jlf1961
2004 Indian Ocean Tsunami may have been caused intentionally by a "tsunami bomb" - a nuclear weapon detonated in a strategic position under the ocean.

No.

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ORIGINAL: jlf1961
Chemtrail theory: Clouds behind aircraft, having the general appearance of contrails, but alleged to be chemical spraying performed for some secretive purpose.

Like what? This is an unsubstantiated hypothesis.

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ORIGINAL: jlf1961
Some theorists claim that forced transition to Digital television broadcasting is practical realization of "Big Brother" concept. They claim that miniature cameras and microphones are built into Set-top boxes and newer TV sets to spy on people. Another claim describes use of mind control technology that would be hidden in the digital signal and used to subvert the mind and feelings of the people and for subliminal advertising.

No.






Real0ne -> RE: Just Pick a theory, a short list of conspiracy theories (2/8/2010 11:55:06 AM)

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ORIGINAL: kittinSol

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ORIGINAL: Real0ne

I wonder what the motive could be for that?  Hmmmm?



I diss your YouTube links and other assorted bollocks because they threaten my omnipotence - I am after all part of the Jewish plot to rule over you. You fuckhead.  


Nah you just loyally root for the home team because little do you know its designed to fuck you equally as thorough as everyone else.

Besides you of all people should know there is a marked difference between the ideology and agenda of jews and zionists.

That and there is no reason to give the jews all the credit and forget about their pals.

Nice try though.

So you did not like that MIT physics lesson on bootube?  I thought it was rather well done frankly.




ThatDamnedPanda -> RE: Just Pick a theory, a short list of conspiracy theories (2/8/2010 12:23:55 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Real0ne

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ORIGINAL: jlf1961

When you need a few MILLION megawatts of power to initiate a fusion reaction pretty much eliminates the possibility of a back yard fusion reactor. If you had developed one, then why are you not rich and why the hell are we still dealing with fossil fuels?

The point is that the only sustainable fusion reaction that is producing more energy than it took to initiate is the sun.

By the way, MIT does not have a fusion reactor in use, neither does the DOE. The only fusion reactors presently being used are at the JET facility in Oxfordshire UK, CERN, Lawrence Livermore Laboratory in California and one under construction in South Korea.

The JET and CERN facilities are TORUS or ring reactors, housed in hanger sized buildings, the Lawrence Livermore unit uses a thousand lasers to attempt to initiate the reaction (which to date have failed to start a fusion reaction even for a split second) and the Korean unit will be another TORUS design but incorporating laser initiators.

There is a theory, one of the conspiracy theories that abound about Area 51 that they are using a fusion reactor for power from a recovered UFO, however that has not been substantiated. It is also of low probability since, due to the energy crisis, it would benefit the government to release the technology into mainstream use.

If you have accomplished what you claim, and actually have a small working fusion reactor, I challenge you to release the information to the news media and make your fortune.


you keep talking about these old junky antiques.  mine ran about 150 to 200 watts input.



You might want to put a little more shielding around your reactor. Or not stand so close to it.




Jeffff -> RE: Just Pick a theory, a short list of conspiracy theories (2/8/2010 12:25:04 PM)

The longer I read the posts of some others........... the better I feel about myself.



Jeff




InvisibleBlack -> RE: Just Pick a theory, a short list of conspiracy theories (2/8/2010 1:39:15 PM)

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ORIGINAL: jlf1961

When you need a few MILLION megawatts of power to initiate a fusion reaction pretty much eliminates the possibility of a back yard fusion reactor. If you had developed one, then why are you not rich and why the hell are we still dealing with fossil fuels?

The point is that the only sustainable fusion reaction that is producing more energy than it took to initiate is the sun.

By the way, MIT does not have a fusion reactor in use, neither does the DOE. The only fusion reactors presently being used are at the JET facility in Oxfordshire UK, CERN, Lawrence Livermore Laboratory in California and one under construction in South Korea.

The JET and CERN facilities are TORUS or ring reactors, housed in hanger sized buildings, the Lawrence Livermore unit uses a thousand lasers to attempt to initiate the reaction (which to date have failed to start a fusion reaction even for a split second) and the Korean unit will be another TORUS design but incorporating laser initiators.

There is a theory, one of the conspiracy theories that abound about Area 51 that they are using a fusion reactor for power from a recovered UFO, however that has not been substantiated. It is also of low probability since, due to the energy crisis, it would benefit the government to release the technology into mainstream use.

If you have accomplished what you claim, and actually have a small working fusion reactor, I challenge you to release the information to the news media and make your fortune.


While nuclear phsyics is not my area of expertise, I believe that RealOne is not claiming to be working on a high-energy or "hot" thermonuclear fusion reactor but instead a "cold fusion" or "low energy nuclear reaction" reactor. The most famous of these was the Fleischmann-Pons (sp?) reactor which utilized electrolysis of heavy water on a palladium electrode. Unfortunately, these experiments could not be duplicated and their claims were rejected in 1989 or 1990 by the Department of Energy. It would definitely be possible to duplicate this experiment or one like it in one's garage. The earliest "cold fusion" experiments were, I believe, muon-calatzyed fusion and date back to the 1950s although the researchers at the time pretty much determined that the process couldn't generate more energy than it took to maintain the process - and abandoned the field.

This being said, I don't believe that he actually has a working cold fusion reactor sitting on his back porch and powering a blender or anything - but it's not completely impossible.




Real0ne -> RE: Just Pick a theory, a short list of conspiracy theories (2/8/2010 2:33:07 PM)

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ORIGINAL: InvisibleBlack

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ORIGINAL: jlf1961

When you need a few MILLION megawatts of power to initiate a fusion reaction pretty much eliminates the possibility of a back yard fusion reactor. If you had developed one, then why are you not rich and why the hell are we still dealing with fossil fuels?

The point is that the only sustainable fusion reaction that is producing more energy than it took to initiate is the sun.

By the way, MIT does not have a fusion reactor in use, neither does the DOE. The only fusion reactors presently being used are at the JET facility in Oxfordshire UK, CERN, Lawrence Livermore Laboratory in California and one under construction in South Korea.

The JET and CERN facilities are TORUS or ring reactors, housed in hanger sized buildings, the Lawrence Livermore unit uses a thousand lasers to attempt to initiate the reaction (which to date have failed to start a fusion reaction even for a split second) and the Korean unit will be another TORUS design but incorporating laser initiators.

There is a theory, one of the conspiracy theories that abound about Area 51 that they are using a fusion reactor for power from a recovered UFO, however that has not been substantiated. It is also of low probability since, due to the energy crisis, it would benefit the government to release the technology into mainstream use.

If you have accomplished what you claim, and actually have a small working fusion reactor, I challenge you to release the information to the news media and make your fortune.


While nuclear phsyics is not my area of expertise, I believe that RealOne is not claiming to be working on a high-energy or "hot" thermonuclear fusion reactor but instead a "cold fusion" or "low energy nuclear reaction" reactor. The most famous of these was the Fleischmann-Pons (sp?) reactor which utilized electrolysis of heavy water on a palladium electrode. Unfortunately, these experiments could not be duplicated and their claims were rejected in 1989 or 1990 by the Department of Energy. It would definitely be possible to duplicate this experiment or one like it in one's garage. The earliest "cold fusion" experiments were, I believe, muon-calatzyed fusion and date back to the 1950s although the researchers at the time pretty much determined that the process couldn't generate more energy than it took to maintain the process - and abandoned the field.

This being said, I don't believe that he actually has a working cold fusion reactor sitting on his back porch and powering a blender or anything - but it's not completely impossible.


Dooood you totally get 10 gold stars!

what gave it away?  LOL

Actually after every country in the world after that MIT and DOE debacle designed to fuck those guys out of their patent, anyway after every other country in the world DID reproduce fusion components tritium etc, then los alamos tested it and woola! eureka! first time it worked with more power out than in precisely the way they said.   It was later discovered that MIT fudged some of the data and those records were floating around and since disappeared. Seems MIT had grants for "hot" fusion that they of course never got to work right.   Just like everyone else in the world can transfer energy wireless using teslas magnifying transmitter, yep you guessed it!  Except MIT.   Mass Institute of TARDS!

Fun toys to play with.

Gold star to you for recognizing the process!




jlf1961 -> RE: Just Pick a theory, a short list of conspiracy theories (2/8/2010 2:45:19 PM)

Again, if you have developed a fusion process that produces more energy than it takes to initiate the process, I challenge you to 1) apply for a patent, proving the process works as required by the patent office, and 2) announce the process to the mainstream media and scientific journals thus bypassing the conspiracy to keep such processes secret.

Considering that no one has been able to duplicate cold fusion experiments thus proving your claim, I agree with the previous statement that you actually have one.

As for calling the current technology antiqued, it is the only provable system working.

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Inconsistencies with conventional physics


Probability of reaction

Because nuclei are all positively charged, they strongly repel one another.[30] Normally, in the absence of a catalyst such as a muon, very high kinetic energies are required to overcome this repulsion.[108] Extrapolating from known rates at high energies down to energies available in cold fusion experiments, the rate for uncatalyzed fusion at room-temperature energy would be 50 orders of magnitude lower than needed to account for the reported excess heat.[109] [110]

Since the 1920s, it has been known that hydrogen and its isotopes can dissolve in certain solids at high densities so that their separation can be relatively small, and that electron charge inside metals can partially cancel the repulsion between nuclei. These facts suggest the possibility of higher cold fusion rates than those expected from a simple application of Coulomb's law. However, modern theoretical calculations show that the effects should be too small to cause significant fusion rates.[111] Supporters of cold fusion pointed to experiments where bombarding metals with deuteron beams seems to increase reaction rates, and suggested to the DOE commission in 2004 that electron screening could be one explanation for this enhanced reaction rate.[112][113]
Observed branching ratio

Deuteron fusion is a two-step process,[114] in which an unstable high energy intermediary is formed:

D + D → 4He* + 24 MeV

High energy experiments have observed only three decay pathways for this excited-state nucleus, with the branching ratio showing the probability that any given intermediate will follow a particular pathway.[115] The products formed via these decay pathways are:

n + 3He + 3.3 MeV (50%)
p + 3H + 4.0 MeV (50%)
4He + γ + 24 MeV (10−6)

Only about one in one million of the intermediaries decay along the third pathway, making its products comparatively rare when compared to the other paths.[77] If one watt of nuclear power were produced from deuteron fusion consistent with known branching ratios, the resulting neutron and tritium (3H) production would be easily measured.[77] Some researchers reported detecting 4He but without the expected neutron or tritium production; such a result would require branching ratios strongly favouring the third pathway, with the actual rates of the first two pathways lower by at least five orders of magnitude than observations from other experiments, directly contradicting mainstream-accepted branching probabilities.[116] Those reports of 4He production did not include detection of gamma rays, which would require the third pathway to have been changed somehow so that gamma rays are no longer emitted.[77]
Conversion of gamma rays to heat

The γ-rays of the 4He pathway are not observed. It has been proposed that the 24 MeV excess energy is transferred in the form of heat into the host metal lattice prior to the intermediary's decay. However, the speed of the decay process together with the inter-atomic spacing in a metallic crystal makes such a transfer inexplicable in terms of conventional understandings of momentum and energy transfer.
Proposed explanations

Cold fusion researchers have described possible cold fusion mechanisms (e.g., electron shielding of the nuclear Coulomb barrier), but they have not received mainstream acceptance. In 2002, Gregory Neil Derry described them as ad hoc explanations that didn't coherently explain the experimental results.

Many groups trying to replicate Fleischmann and Pons' results have reported alternative explanations for their original positive results, like problems in the neutron detector in the case of Georgia Tech or bad wiring in the thermometers at Texas A&M. These reports, combined with negative results from some famous laboratories, led most scientists to conclude that no positive result should be attributed to cold fusion, at least not on a significant scale.



Although, there is some promising research that is being taken a bit more seriously.

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Now Pamela Mosier-Boss and colleagues at Space and Naval Warfare Systems Command (SPAWAR) in San Diego, California, are claiming to have made a "significant" discovery – clear evidence of the products of cold fusion.

On 23 March, the team presented its work at the American Chemical Society's spring conference in Salt Lake City, Utah, a few months after the study was published in a peer-reviewed journal

Using a similar experimental setup to Fleischmann and Pons, the researchers found the "tracks" left behind by high-energy neutrons, which, they suggest, emerge from the fusion of a deuterium and tritium atom.

The team used a low-tech particle detector: a plastic called CR-39 that is otherwise used for spectacle lenses. When CR-39 is bombarded with subatomic charged particles, a small pit forms in the material with each impact.

The researchers placed a sample of CR-39 in contact with a gold or nickel cathode in an electrochemical cell filled with a mixture of palladium chloride, lithium chloride and deuterium oxide (D2O), so-called "heavy water". When a current was passed through the cell, palladium and deuterium became deposited on the cathode.
Triple tracks

After two to three weeks, the team found a small number of "triple tracks" in the plastic – three 8-micrometre-wide pits radiating from a point (see diagram, top right). The team says such a pattern occurs when a high-energy neutron strikes a carbon atom inside the plastic and shatters it into three charged alpha particles that rip through the plastic leaving tracks. No such tracks were seen if the experiment was repeated using normal rather than heavy water.

Johan Frenje at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, an expert at interpreting CR-39 tracks produced in conventional high-temperature fusion reactions, says the team's interpretation of what produced the tracks is valid.

"I must say that the data and their analysis seem to suggest that energetic neutrons have been produced," he says, although he would like to see the results confirmed quantitatively.

More controversial is the team's suggestion for the process that produced the neutrons. High-energy neutrons are unlikely to be produced by a normal chemical reaction, says Mosier-Boss. So, it's possible, she says, they are created during the fusion of deuterium and tritium atoms tightly packed in palladium framework at the cathode. The tritium also being a product of the fusion of two deuterium atoms.

Some researchers in the cold fusion field agree. "In my view [it's] a cold fusion effect," says Peter Hagelstein, also at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology.



Full article




Rule -> RE: Just Pick a theory, a short list of conspiracy theories (2/8/2010 4:40:05 PM)

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ORIGINAL: jlf1961
I challenge you to 1) apply for a patent, proving the process works as required by the patent office

That will definitely get him murdered and his patent application to disappear.

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ORIGINAL: jlf1961
I challenge you to 2) announce the process to the mainstream media

That will definitely get him murdered and his discovery to disappear. It would be smarter to put it in a torrent, rar it, and call it "How to take care of your cat". That will ensure that thousands of people download it before it is suppressed.

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ORIGINAL: jlf1961
I challenge you to 2) announce the process to ... scientific journals thus bypassing the conspiracy to keep such processes secret.

That will definitely get him murdered and his discovery to disappear.

Edited to add: In any case, I doubt any cold fusion claim. Likely the energy is produced in another way.




Rule -> RE: Just Pick a theory, a short list of conspiracy theories (2/8/2010 4:50:11 PM)

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ORIGINAL: jlf1961
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Now Pamela Mosier-Boss and colleagues

it's possible, she says, they are created during the fusion of deuterium and tritium atoms tightly packed in palladium framework at the cathode. The tritium also being a product of the fusion of two deuterium atoms.

They are wrong. It is far more likely that the proton was ripped away from a deuterium nucleus, leaving the left over neutron with all remaining momentum. So not fusion, but fission.




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