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Brain -> Palin Considering 2012 Run, Defends Limbaugh's Use Of 'Retard' On Fox News Sunday (2/7/2010 2:24:07 PM)

I will be looking forward to watching more episodes of Saturday night live in the future. I’m sorry but I just can’t take the woman seriously. I may as well be listening to a dingbat named Edith Bunker. I hope Palin wins because the Republicans deserve to be destroyed and so do the Democrats if you listened to Bill Moyers this week. Maybe a miracle will happen and people will vote for independents. She thinks she is the right thing for the country??? And liberals are kooks with the first Dude as bonus. What kind of person would run with her? Nope. She’s just milking this to stay relevant and make a few extra bucks.


Palin Considering 2012 Run, Defends Limbaugh's Use Of 'Retard' On Fox News Sunday

Former Alaska governor Sarah Palin didn't cage her answer when pressed Sunday morning as to whether she would consider a run for president in 2012.

"I would, I would if I believe that is the right thing to do for our country and the Palin family. Certainly I would do so," she told "Fox News Sunday," in an interview that was taped before she addressed a Tea Party convention the night before. "I think that it would be absurd to not consider what it is that I could potentially do to help our country ... . I won't close a door that perhaps could be open for me in the future."

In her first Sunday show appearance, the 2008 vice-presidential candidate predicted that, if the election were held today, President Barack Obama would actually lose the office he won just a year-and-a-half ago. But -- citing a column written by Pat Buchanan -- she left open the possibility that his fates could change, particularly (she seemed to wish) if a major attack were to be launched against Iran.

Palin also used her platform to continue a call for the president to rid himself of his closest advisers. On Attorney General Eric Holder, she labeled his handling of captured terrorists -- "allowing them our U.S. constitutional protections when they do not deserve them" -- a firing offense. On Chief-of-Staff Rahm Emanuel, she said his comments calling liberal groups "f-ing retards" was "indecent and insensitive" and cause for his dismissal.

But the former governor went to great and sometimes awkward lengths to insist that when conservative talk show host Rush Limbaugh used the same exact term to describe the same exact group, it was simply in the role of political humorist.

"They are kooks, so I agree with Rush Limbaugh," she said, when read a quote of Limbaugh calling liberal groups "retards." "Rush Limbaugh was using satire ... . I didn't hear Rush Limbaugh calling a group of people whom he did not agree with 'f-ing retards,' and we did know that Rahm Emanuel, as has been reported, did say that. There is a big difference there."

In the 30-minute sit down with host Chris Wallace, Palin addressed a wide swath of largely political topics -- the policy minutia, undoubtedly, saved for another time and place.

She dismissed charges that her husband Todd played an unacceptably active role in guiding her administration as governor, after it was revealed in recently disclosed emails that the "first dude" was often consulted on weighty matters.

She acknowledged moderate successes in Obama's foreign policy -- specifically towards Afghanistan and Pakistan -- but still questioned why the president "pals around" with domestic terrorists (Bill Ayers).

Finally, she declined several attempts to weigh in on other perspective 2012 candidates, citing only Rep. Paul Ryan (R-Wisc.) as someone who she admired and found intriguing.

The impression, in the end, was left that she was charting out a candidacy of her own. Pressed about reports that she was being consulted by a group of Washington-based advisers -- those insider elites she often bemoans -- on issues both domestic and foreign, she didn't exactly shoot down the idea that it was prep work for a White House run.

"Ever since our PAC was formed we have had good people contributing, some, many volunteers, I guess you would call them advisers yes, fire away emails to me every morning saying this is what happened in Washington overnight, you need to be aware of this," Palin said. "I have no idea how conventionally people [run for the White House]. How they open a door that perhaps isn't even open. ... I don't know how any of that stuff works. I'm just appreciative of having some good information at my fingerprints now."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/02/07/palin-considering-2012-ru_n_452602.html




juliaoceania -> RE: Palin Considering 2012 Run, Defends Limbaugh's Use Of 'Retard' On Fox News Sunday (2/7/2010 4:03:28 PM)

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I would, I would if I believe that is the right thing to do for our country and the Palin family


And then she would quit a year later






stef -> RE: Palin Considering 2012 Run, Defends Limbaugh's Use Of 'Retard' On Fox News Sunday (2/7/2010 4:07:39 PM)

Well, that's an awfully mavericky thing to do, isn't it?

~stef




tazzygirl -> RE: Palin Considering 2012 Run, Defends Limbaugh's Use Of 'Retard' On Fox News Sunday (2/7/2010 4:28:29 PM)

So, if i get this right... its ok to call a group of people "retards" as long as you dont use the word "fuckin" before it?




juliaoceania -> RE: Palin Considering 2012 Run, Defends Limbaugh's Use Of 'Retard' On Fox News Sunday (2/7/2010 4:39:34 PM)

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

So, if i get this right... its ok to call a group of people "retards" as long as you dont use the word "fuckin" before it?


It is okay to use it in "satire"... meaning it is okay to use it to make fun of someone... as in "Dude, you are a retard"(Beavis and Butthead laughter following it)




tazzygirl -> RE: Palin Considering 2012 Run, Defends Limbaugh's Use Of 'Retard' On Fox News Sunday (2/7/2010 4:51:43 PM)

Oddly enough, i dont find either usage satirical in the least.




juliaoceania -> RE: Palin Considering 2012 Run, Defends Limbaugh's Use Of 'Retard' On Fox News Sunday (2/7/2010 5:06:28 PM)

Oddly enough I do not think of the term "retarded" as being just applicable to mentally challenged people, whom I refer to as"mentally challenged" or "intellectually disabled"




tazzygirl -> RE: Palin Considering 2012 Run, Defends Limbaugh's Use Of 'Retard' On Fox News Sunday (2/7/2010 5:15:20 PM)

Its like the "n" word. It has no place in society as its only purpose for use is to belittle or humiliate.




AnimusRex -> RE: Palin Considering 2012 Run, Defends Limbaugh's Use Of 'Retard' On Fox News Sunday (2/7/2010 5:26:32 PM)


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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl
Its like the "n" word. It has no place in society as its only purpose for use is to belittle or humiliate.


Quite so. And there are far, far better ways to describe Caribou Barbie than using the "R" word.
Viper Tongued
Narcissitic
Mean Girlish
Truth Challenged
Alaskan Evita
Madam Palin the Palm Reader




tazzygirl -> RE: Palin Considering 2012 Run, Defends Limbaugh's Use Of 'Retard' On Fox News Sunday (2/7/2010 5:29:27 PM)

dont forget.... fuckable (according to some twisted souls.. lol)




juliaoceania -> RE: Palin Considering 2012 Run, Defends Limbaugh's Use Of 'Retard' On Fox News Sunday (2/7/2010 6:13:59 PM)

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

Its like the "n" word. It has no place in society as its only purpose for use is to belittle or humiliate.


It technically has other definitions, it means arrested development basically... The growth of a petri dish of cells can be "retarded", for example... whereas the "N" word only has one definition...





tazzygirl -> RE: Palin Considering 2012 Run, Defends Limbaugh's Use Of 'Retard' On Fox News Sunday (2/7/2010 6:31:32 PM)

But how often is that used in that context? Neither of these men were using it in that context.

Main Entry: re·tard·ed
Pronunciation: \ri-ˈtär-dəd\
Function: adjective
Date: 1895
sometimes offensive : slow or limited in intellectual or emotional development or academic progress

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/retarded

re·tard·ed (r-tärdd) KEY

ADJECTIVE:

Often Offensive Affected with mental retardation.
Occurring or developing later than desired or expected; delayed.

http://education.yahoo.com/reference/dictionary/entry/retarded

My point is this... when referring to an object, its use is scientific in nature. A retarded growth in a petri dish would not raise an eyebrow if that was written on a report or spoken among colleagues. Make that same comment about a person, and the eye brows will rise. When in reference to a person, its disparaging and meant to demean.




Musicmystery -> RE: Palin Considering 2012 Run, Defends Limbaugh's Use Of 'Retard' On Fox News Sunday (2/7/2010 6:31:52 PM)

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"They are kooks, so I agree with Rush Limbaugh," she said, when read a quote of Limbaugh calling liberal groups "retards." "Rush Limbaugh was using satire ... . I didn't hear Rush Limbaugh calling a group of people whom he did not agree with 'f-ing retards,' and we did know that Rahm Emanuel, as has been reported, did say that. There is a big difference there."


Yeah. Sure is. One's a liberal and one's a conservative.

But no doubt Rich and Sanity will be along soon to lament her double standard.





popeye1250 -> RE: Palin Considering 2012 Run, Defends Limbaugh's Use Of 'Retard' On Fox News Sunday (2/7/2010 6:44:56 PM)

What's the big deal with the word "retard?"
I call people retards all the time and they think it's funny because I do it in my thickest Boston accent. "Ey! Ya fuckin' Ree-Taaahd!"

One time my cousin the gangster got into an argument with a guy in the checkout lane who had an obviously retarded kid with him and he told the guy, "you're more fuckin' retarded than your kid is!"




juliaoceania -> RE: Palin Considering 2012 Run, Defends Limbaugh's Use Of 'Retard' On Fox News Sunday (2/7/2010 6:49:46 PM)

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My point is this... when referring to an object, its use is scientific in nature. A retarded growth in a petri dish would not raise an eyebrow if that was written on a report or spoken among colleagues. Make that same comment about a person, and the eye brows will rise. When in reference to a person, its disparaging and meant to demean.


My point is this, it is not like the "N" word at all because the "N" word has no scientific meaning...

Also, there are many ways to be retarded... mentally is just one of them... emotionally is another...

But you are correct about one thing, neither of the people in this case meant it that way




Musicmystery -> RE: Palin Considering 2012 Run, Defends Limbaugh's Use Of 'Retard' On Fox News Sunday (2/7/2010 6:56:58 PM)

Whatever the case,

Sarah Palin is a retard.




rulemylife -> RE: Palin Considering 2012 Run, Defends Limbaugh's Use Of 'Retard' On Fox News Sunday (2/7/2010 7:44:56 PM)

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ORIGINAL: juliaoceania

quote:

I would, I would if I believe that is the right thing to do for our country and the Palin family


And then she would quit a year later


Oh, come on now.

She would stick it out for at least two years then write another book about how the evil liberals drove her from office and go back to her job at Fox News.







jlf1961 -> RE: Palin Considering 2012 Run, Defends Limbaugh's Use Of 'Retard' On Fox News Sunday (2/7/2010 7:48:45 PM)


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ORIGINAL: rulemylife

quote:

ORIGINAL: juliaoceania

quote:

I would, I would if I believe that is the right thing to do for our country and the Palin family


And then she would quit a year later


Oh, come on now.

She would stick it out for at least two years then write a book about how the evil liberals drove her from office and take a job on Fox News.





She already got a job on Fox News, which is saying either Fox has no standards OR they dont have standards and dont care




rulemylife -> RE: Palin Considering 2012 Run, Defends Limbaugh's Use Of 'Retard' On Fox News Sunday (2/7/2010 7:51:37 PM)

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ORIGINAL: jlf1961


She already got a job on Fox News, which is saying either Fox has no standards OR they dont have standards and dont care


Yea, I know.

I meant it to be facetious but I saw the post needed clarifying.




DarkSteven -> RE: Palin Considering 2012 Run, Defends Limbaugh's Use Of 'Retard' On Fox News Sunday (2/7/2010 8:03:47 PM)

Being a politician is hard work.  You have to make speeches, pander to groups, etc.  And if you;re elected and hold office, it gets pretty tedious at times.  And you and your statements are fair game for everyone.  Palin found out that she's not that good at it.

I think she's enjoying being a celebrity.  She gets big bucks for speeches, her endorsements carry weight within the party, and she earns much more than she ever could by holding office.

I suspect that she's going to dethrone Ann Coulter as the Conservative Spokeswoman.  Her statement "I would, I would if I believe that is the right thing to do for our country and the Palin family. Certainly I would do so" I interpret as her saying that she's happy to serve her country but not at the expense of her family.  Keep in mind that she's got a special needs kid... I expect that her statement actually ruled out running again.




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