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RE: Obama Plans Bipartisan Summit on Health Care - 2/8/2010 3:22:26 PM

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Having the debates televised is good. Ending deadlock is better. We have had the same problem in the California legislature with the 2 parties and the Governator battling it out and holding up the state budget.

What's the position of most Independents on these issues?

Well if you are to believe the new Rasmuessen poll... almost 80% of indies are angry at the current policies, with 75% of all voters surveyed somewhat angry with current policies...

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/general_politics/february_2010/75_are_angry_at_government_s_current_policies

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RE: Obama Plans Bipartisan Summit on Health Care - 2/8/2010 3:24:17 PM

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I actually agree with Cantor, we should scrap the current bill. And then a Single payer Plan should be on the table and go back to what 80% of Americans wanted in the first place

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RE: Obama Plans Bipartisan Summit on Health Care - 2/8/2010 3:28:25 PM

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I actually agree with Cantor, we should scrap the current bill. And then a Single payer Plan should be on the table and go back to what 80% of Americans wanted in the first place

Where did you get the figure of 80% of Americans want a single payer plan? I have yet to see anywhere near that kind of support for it. If I missed it please show me where.

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RE: Obama Plans Bipartisan Summit on Health Care - 2/8/2010 3:37:20 PM

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This reminds me of a movie I once saw. Ground Hog Day.Now he wants to include republicans..

As I recall he always did, it was the Republicans who refused to participate and then claimed they weren't included.

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RE: Obama Plans Bipartisan Summit on Health Care - 2/8/2010 3:39:40 PM

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This reminds me of a movie I once saw. Ground Hog Day.Now he wants to include republicans..

As I recall he always did, it was the Republicans who refused to participate and then claimed they weren't included.

Talk about rewriting history...

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RE: Obama Plans Bipartisan Summit on Health Care - 2/8/2010 4:13:03 PM

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This has everything to do with the severe spanking Obama got in Massachusetts of course. Prior to that he had no interest in showing bipartisanship of any kind, unless it meant that the opposition caved to his demands.

That's nonsense.

He has consistently tried to gain Republican support and this has consistently been the GOP answer:

CNN Political Ticker: All politics, all the time Blog Archive ...
Jan 31, 2010 ... GOP signals little willingness to meet Obama, Democrats halfway.

(CNN) - Despite White House overtures for congressional Republicans to work with Democrats, GOP leaders indicated Sunday they were unwilling to accept much of what President Barack Obama and the Democrats are proposing.

Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell showed little willingness on CNN's "State of the Union" program to seek common ground with Democrats on top legislative priorities such as health care, a jobs bill or creating a bipartisan statutory commission to come up with plans to reduce the federal deficit.

His counterpart in the House, Minority Leader John Boehner of Ohio, was more blunt. "There aren't that many places where we can come together," Boehner, R-Ohio, told the NBC program "Meet the Press."

Republicans were elected to stand by their principles, and those principles are different than the "leftist proposals" offered by Obama and congressional Democrats, Boehner said.

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RE: Obama Plans Bipartisan Summit on Health Care - 2/8/2010 4:32:16 PM

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Talk about rewriting history...

Ok, let's talk about it.

Are you going to seriously argue that Republicans in Congress did not blatantly refuse to consider any health care reform and only belatedly offered a vague, one page proposal of their own?

Are you going to deny Obama reached out to several Republicans to avoid a battle over the Sontamyer nomination?

Do I need to provide more examples which I can easily document?

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RE: Obama Plans Bipartisan Summit on Health Care - 2/8/2010 4:41:50 PM

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I actually agree with Cantor, we should scrap the current bill. And then a Single payer Plan should be on the table and go back to what 80% of Americans wanted in the first place

Where did you get the figure of 80% of Americans want a single payer plan? I have yet to see anywhere near that kind of support for it. If I missed it please show me where.

New Poll: 77 Percent Support "Choice" Of Public Option

Obama Boost: New Poll Shows 76% Support For Choice Of Public Plan

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RE: Obama Plans Bipartisan Summit on Health Care - 2/9/2010 5:54:40 PM

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I actually agree with Cantor, we should scrap the current bill. And then a Single payer Plan should be on the table and go back to what 80% of Americans wanted in the first place

Where did you get the figure of 80% of Americans want a single payer plan? I have yet to see anywhere near that kind of support for it. If I missed it please show me where.

New Poll: 77 Percent Support "Choice" Of Public Option

Obama Boost: New Poll Shows 76% Support For Choice Of Public Plan

Did you read the questions and the responses on the 2 polls you presented? First one poll is based on the other, just slightly different results...

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In any health care proposal, how important do you feel it is to give people a choice of both a public plan administered by the federal government and a private plan for their health insurance--extremely important, quite important, not that important, or not at all important?

The important word in this question is "choice". If you look at any other polls from around that time as soon as you removed the word choice and left it at public option the support dropped to 43%.

Using semantics to suggest that that many people support a single payer system is insane. I would also note that even if such support was there, as soon as people realized what it meant that support has evaporated.

Finally I still don't (and haven't) see anything suggesting that 80% of Americans support a single payer system.

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