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housesub4you -> GOP now supports back room deals on Jobs Bill (2/10/2010 1:54:07 PM)
Sen John Kyl (R-AZ) was all about the public healthcare debate be on TV..he wrote There’s no good reason to keep the negotiations of the health-care bill secret – unless, of course, the President and congressional Democrats know that Americans wouldn’t like what they see and the only way they can get this bill is to write it in secret and pass it quickly, before the American people know what’s in it. However on the JOBS BILL the GOP think doing things behind closed doors is fine: While much has been made of “backroom deals” over healthcare reform, no such outcry has come on the jobs bill. One reason? A handful of Republicans have been in the back room this time. Kyl, who loudly decried the closed door sausage-making on healthcare legislation, had a softer tone on the jobs bill. “The truth of the matter is, a lot of things here are done by staff behind closed doors, and it’s not always the wrong way to put something together, as long as you have plenty of time for that product to get out to members so they can evaluate it, have the public take a look at it. … If you’re going to forgo the committee process, then you at least have to get it out to members so they can reflect on it. And that’s why you can’t vote on it by Thursday or Friday,” Kyl said. SO a year of healthcare was not enough time, but a jobs bill pushed through with the GOP in the backroom behind closed doors is OK We need to get all these crooks out of DC

Thadius -> RE: GOP now supports back room deals on Jobs Bill (2/10/2010 2:00:02 PM)
You are missing the key element. Both parties were allowed in the discussion behind closed doors, that is a huge difference between one party going into solitude and coming out and forcing a vote on the bill they just kobbled together. Not that I trust either party, but at least with both of em in the room they tend to keep each other in check on the completely crazy notions. Note also that Kyl said the bill would need to be distributed to the members so they could look it over before a vote could be held. This seems in line with what they were asking for in the other debate. One last thing. Screw the PC title of this bill, it is Stimulus bill 2. Same shit, just a smaller price tag this time.

housesub4you -> RE: GOP now supports back room deals on Jobs Bill (2/10/2010 2:15:19 PM)
I do not think it is the same. It seems to me, that as long as the GOP is in the back room it's OK. But how many back door deals did they design when they controlled everything?? Now that they are not in power they play this BS, whining crap and acting like they are the only ones who can be trusted. Well, we have seen where their deals have gotten us Well, personally I do not trust any of them, and everything should be open to public viewing, and I'm calling the bill by it's name. on a side note, I got a nice deer 2 days ago driving home, gut him and hung it in the garage. I had better luck with my car, then hunting this season. Might switch to just using the car or truck from now on, no license required or tags.

DomImus -> RE: GOP now supports back room deals on Jobs Bill (2/10/2010 5:22:40 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Thadius You are missing the key element. Another key element that is lost here is that there are a variety of legislative bills that are hammered out in closed door sessions with one side or the other controlling the process that are of varying impacts on the nation as a whole. Some relatively small and others not so. To apply that to what is arguably the most important and significant piece of legislation to come down the pike in 40 years or more (health care reform) reeks of the very partisanship we were promised would not happen in this administration.

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