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Tea Party Organizer Is Epitome Of Privilege - 2/11/2010 4:55:17 PM   
Brain


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Status: offline 		Since Americans don’t know much about the tea party movement I suggest watching this (Tea Party Organizer Is Epitome Of Privilege) and to get to know the man behind it, Dick Armey.

The other two links (Poll finds most Americans are unhappy with government) and (Palin Unqualified To Be President, Says Vast Majority Of America) are related to the tea party theme of Americans being unhappy with government which explains the rise in popularity of Sarah Palin. She complains about government a lot and demonstrated how it doesn’t work with her incompetence when she was elected governor of Alaska.



Tea Party Organizer Is Epitome Of Privilege

Dick Armey: Hypocrite Extraordinaire
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4RT6Dy-XRZc



Poll finds most Americans are unhappy with government

Despite the disapproval of government, few Americans say they know much about the "tea party" movement, which emerged last year and attracted voters angry at a government they thought was spending recklessly and overstepping its constitutional powers. And the new poll shows that the political standing of former Republican vice presidential nominee Sarah Palin, who was the keynote speaker last week at the first National Tea Party Convention, has deteriorated significantly.

But nearly two-thirds of those polled say they know just some, very little or nothing about what the tea party movement stands for. About one in eight says they know "a great deal" about the positions of tea party groups, but the lack of information does not erase the appeal: About 45 percent of all Americans say they agree at least somewhat with tea partiers on issues, including majorities of Republicans and independents.

Although Palin is a tea party favorite, her potential as a presidential hopeful takes a severe hit in the survey. Fifty-five percent of Americans have unfavorable views of her, while the percentage holding favorable views has dipped to 37, a new low in Post-ABC polling.

Palin has lost ground among conservative Republicans, who would be crucial to her hopes if she seeks the party's presidential nomination in 2012. Forty-five percent of conservatives now consider her as qualified for the presidency, down sharply from 66 percent who said so last fall.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/02/10/AR2010021004708.html

Palin Unqualified To Be President, Says Vast Majority Of America

The spotlight has been bright, not necessarily kind to former Vice Presidential candidate Sarah Palin. According to a new Washington Post-ABC News poll, 71% of Americans do not feel that Palin is qualified to be President.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/02/11/palin-unqualified-president-tea-party-poll_n_457836.html

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RE: Tea Party Organizer Is Epitome Of Privilege - 2/11/2010 4:58:44 PM   
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so much for the "movement"

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RE: Tea Party Organizer Is Epitome Of Privilege - 2/11/2010 5:51:13 PM   
Brain


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A conservative in Nashville: Tea Party movement now dominated by conspiracists 'dangerously detached from reality' | Crooks and Liars

We began reporting back in July that the Tea Party movement was rapidly becoming overwhelmed by the influx of far-right extremists, particularly at the leadership level, and that it was becoming a major nexus for mainstreaming far-right extremism.

http://crooksandliars.com/david-neiwert/conservative-nashville-tea-party-mov

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RE: Tea Party Organizer Is Epitome Of Privilege - 2/11/2010 5:57:25 PM   
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Status: offline 		Just 2 questions for ya.

1. What is with the almost insane desire from the left to bring down Palin? If people would stop putting the spot light on her, she would slink back to the north woods.

2. Why isn't the person that was elected to be VP held to even close to the same standard, or his wonderful comments talked about?

Curious minds (mine mainly) would love to know. Thanks in advance.

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RE: Tea Party Organizer Is Epitome Of Privilege - 2/11/2010 6:03:14 PM   
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he wrecked the tea party movement

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RE: Tea Party Organizer Is Epitome Of Privilege - 2/11/2010 6:05:55 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Thadius

Just 2 questions for ya.

1. What is with the almost insane desire from the left to bring down Palin? If people would stop putting the spot light on her, she would slink back to the north woods.

2. Why isn't the person that was elected to be VP held to even close to the same standard, or his wonderful comments talked about?

Curious minds (mine mainly) would love to know. Thanks in advance.

The left paid her 100k to speak last week? The left gave her a huge advance and bus tour for her book?

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RE: Tea Party Organizer Is Epitome Of Privilege - 2/11/2010 6:09:24 PM   
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RE: Tea Party Organizer Is Epitome Of Privilege - 2/11/2010 6:35:38 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Brain

Too bad I didn’t see this earlier to put it in the first post.

A conservative in Nashville: Tea Party movement now dominated by conspiracists 'dangerously detached from reality' | Crooks and Liars

We began reporting back in July that the Tea Party movement was rapidly becoming overwhelmed by the influx of far-right extremists, particularly at the leadership level, and that it was becoming a major nexus for mainstreaming far-right extremism.

http://crooksandliars.com/david-neiwert/conservative-nashville-tea-party-mov



Well, Chelene is a whack job but she's still pretty hot.

Chelene Nightingale, that's a porn star name if I've ever heard one.  I'll have to Google.

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RE: Tea Party Organizer Is Epitome Of Privilege - 2/11/2010 6:38:51 PM   
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ORIGINAL: DomKen


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ORIGINAL: Thadius

Just 2 questions for ya.

1. What is with the almost insane desire from the left to bring down Palin? If people would stop putting the spot light on her, she would slink back to the north woods.

2. Why isn't the person that was elected to be VP held to even close to the same standard, or his wonderful comments talked about?

Curious minds (mine mainly) would love to know. Thanks in advance.

The left paid her 100k to speak last week? The left gave her a huge advance and bus tour for her book?

How many articles a day appear over at the Huff or Daily Kos regarding Palin? Seems to me the left needs a boogey man (woman in this case) to keep the fires burnin. Honestly, this woman should have and I argue would have disappeared a year ago if she didn't get so much attack coverage. The left has pretty much turned her into a Billy the Kid. Tis a shame they didn't realize it earlier. So keep up the coverage.

I noticed you avoided answering the question about the guy that actually was elected to the VP slot. Joe Gibbs and he are a comic team this last couple of days. Now claiming that Iraq is a great achievement for this administration, claiming that because Obama was such a strong candidate in '08 that he influenced the events that unfolded then. Oh an now claiming credit for the surge, which both Obama and Biden opposed completely, so much so that Obama penned the Senate resolution to state it. Ah... good times. Oh, and I almost forgot about them stating last week that "we are handling prisoners the same way the Bush admin did".

I guess it is easier to attack some goofy broad from Alaska than to focus on the successes or lack of them of the folks that you did elect. So far his one bragging point seems to be that he beat a Senator that sold out on everything he stood for and some chick from Alaska.

Enjoy.



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RE: Tea Party Organizer Is Epitome Of Privilege - 2/11/2010 6:45:21 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Thadius

Just 2 questions for ya.

1. What is with the almost insane desire from the left to bring down Palin? If people would stop putting the spot light on her, she would slink back to the north woods.

2. Why isn't the person that was elected to be VP held to even close to the same standard, or his wonderful comments talked about?

Curious minds (mine mainly) would love to know. Thanks in advance.


Biden may put his foot in his mouth once in a while but he is not a stupid man.

I can't offer the same endorsement for Palin.

But what I find the most interesting is how she is constantly putting herself in the spotlight and then when she gets criticized conservatives run to her defense claiming those on the left are obsessed with her.

I would love to see her disappear, but that's not going to be the case, so don't blame us.

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RE: Tea Party Organizer Is Epitome Of Privilege - 2/11/2010 6:51:28 PM   
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Status: offline 		So coverage on Huffpo and dailykos is a big deal now? I thought the present right wing meme was that both were read by no one and of no importance? That's certainly what has been being pressed everyone I track recently since the 'too biased to acknowledge' meme got laughed at.

You can't have it both ways. Either huffpo and dailykos are irrelevant and their coverage of anybody is of no concern or they are as legit as any of the right wing sites.

BTW if you actually read huffpo or dailykos you would find at least as many articles and diaries attacking Obama as attack Palin. That specially tre on the very progressive Dailykos. Palin gets coverage because she says things that get picked up by the right wing echo chamber, for instance her 'death panel' lie was all over drudge, free republic etc. long before it appeared on either huffpo or dailykos.

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RE: Tea Party Organizer Is Epitome Of Privilege - 2/11/2010 6:56:07 PM   
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Status: offline 		Lord, I wish we could ignore Palin, and have her crawl back to Wasilla and be forgotten.

But I do think she is a dangerous person- I see her as a Nixon for our time. She is popular enough, and empty enough, to serve as a puppet for the hidden figures of the Neocon racket like Bill Kristol and Dick Armey, who represent the banks and corporate lobbyists she rails against.

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RE: Tea Party Organizer Is Epitome Of Privilege - 2/11/2010 6:57:36 PM   
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ORIGINAL: AnimusRex

Lord, I wish we could ignore Palin, and have her crawl back to Wasilla and be forgotten.

But I do think she is a dangerous person- I see her as a Nixon for our time. She is popular enough, and empty enough, to serve as a puppet for the hidden figures of the Neocon racket like Bill Kristol and Dick Armey, who represent the banks and corporate lobbyists she rails against.


I thought Darth Cheney was the real power behind the neocons. No?

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RE: Tea Party Organizer Is Epitome Of Privilege - 2/11/2010 7:11:19 PM   
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RE: Tea Party Organizer Is Epitome Of Privilege - 2/11/2010 7:12:53 PM   
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RE: Tea Party Organizer Is Epitome Of Privilege - 2/11/2010 7:38:07 PM   
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RE: Tea Party Organizer Is Epitome Of Privilege - 2/11/2010 8:16:13 PM   
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What is with the almost insane desire from the left to bring down Palin?


Bring down Palin? Bring her down from where?

She's popular with a group that isn't even a political party. This isn't even non-news enough to be a non-news story.

Reminds me of Monty Python's characters in search of a plot....and then he found a paper bag under a bush, which did NOT contain a severed head....

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RE: Tea Party Organizer Is Epitome Of Privilege - 2/11/2010 9:51:04 PM   
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I think she brought herself down without help from the left with all the stupid things she has said. I’m just enjoying this because it’s funny. I do have a desire to laugh and when she’s in the news I make sure I watch Saturday Night Live. I’m actually pleased she doesn’t have the intellect of Bill Buckley or Thatcher or Jean Kilpatrick because then I’d be worried. THERE IS NO “almost insane desire” to bring her down because it’s obvious she’s in way over her head and isn’t qualified.

Even Dubya knew she wasn’t qualified:

George W. Bush on Sarah Palin and John McCain - Grasping Reality with a Ten-Foot-Long Flexible Trunk

George W. Bush on Sarah Palin and John McCain
Matt Latimer http://men.style.com/gq/features/full?id=content_10957&pageNum=7:

On Sarah Palin:

[T]he president [George W. Bush], ever the skilled politician, had concerns about the choice of Palin, which he called “interesting.” That was the equivalent of calling a fireworks display “satisfactory.” “I’m trying to remember if I’ve met her before. I’m sure I must have.” His eyes twinkled, then he asked, “What is she, the governor of Guam?” Everyone in the room seemed to look at him in horror, their mouths agape. When Ed told him that conservatives were greeting the choice enthusiastically, he replied, “Look, I’m a team player, I’m on board.” He thought about it for a minute. “She’s interesting,” he said again. “You know, just wait a few days until the bloom is off the rose.” Then he made a very smart assessment. “This woman is being put into a position she is not even remotely prepared for,” he said. “She hasn’t spent one day on the national level. Neither has her family. Let’s wait and see how she looks five days out.” It was a rare dose of reality in a White House that liked to believe every decision was great, every Republican was a genius, and McCain was the hope of the world because, well, because
http://delong.typepad.com/sdj/2009/09/george-w-bush-on-sarah-palin-and-john-mccain.html



Joe Biden does say stupid things sometimes but the man has a wealth of experience after over 30 years in the senate and chairman of the judiciary and foreign relation committees; Palin doesn’t come close needless to say.

Also, even Obama has said something stupid like:

U.S. President Barack Obama has apologized after saying he'd been practising his bowling skills at the White House but that his low score was "like the Special Olympics or something."
http://www.sodahead.com/united-states/obama-said-something-stupid-big-dealare-people-making-to-much-out-of-this/question-290394/

OR

Obama on Guns, God, and Hate in Rural America
James Joyner | Saturday, April 12, 2008
Barack Obama’s foray into pop psychology, trying to explain why rural Pennsylvanians aren’t warming to him and are asking him to talk more about patriotism, is causing quite the stir in the blogosphere.

“You go into some of these small towns in Pennsylvania, and like a lot of small towns in the Midwest, the jobs have been gone now for 25 years and nothing’s replaced them,” Obama said. “And they fell through the Clinton Administration, and the Bush Administration, and each successive administration has said that somehow these communities are gonna regenerate and they have not. And it’s not surprising then they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren’t like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations.”

http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/obama_on_guns_god_and_hate_in_rural_america/


or

Obama Claims He's Visited 57 States
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpGH02DtIws

But most of the time you need to say things that are smart and Palin really doesn’t and can’t do it.


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ORIGINAL: Thadius

Just 2 questions for ya.

1. What is with the almost insane desire from the left to bring down Palin? If people would stop putting the spot light on her, she would slink back to the north woods.

2. Why isn't the person that was elected to be VP held to even close to the same standard, or his wonderful comments talked about?

Curious minds (mine mainly) would love to know. Thanks in advance.


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RE: Tea Party Organizer Is Epitome Of Privilege - 2/11/2010 9:53:01 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Thadius


If people would stop putting the spot light on her, she would slink back to the north woods.





.....er......no she wouldn't Thadius. McCain let her out of the bag and she's loose....loose i say.

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RE: Tea Party Organizer Is Epitome Of Privilege - 2/12/2010 5:01:52 AM   
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ORIGINAL: AnimusRex
But I do think she is a dangerous person- I see her as a Nixon for our time. She is popular enough, and empty enough, to serve as a puppet for the hidden figures of the Neocon racket like Bill Kristol and Dick Armey, who represent the banks and corporate lobbyists she rails against.

That's a bit offensive to Nixon who, whatever else you can say about him (the whole Kent State thing and Watergate don't look good) wasn't a stupid man and did pretty well in international terms, however big a mess his domestic policy was. Still, that may well have been more Kissinger than him...

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