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vid- Debera Medina -Beck thing - 2/13/2010 11:24:17 AM   
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RE: vid- Debera Medina -Beck thing - 2/13/2010 11:27:24 AM   
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Are you intentionally trying to confuse us here? ...

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RE: vid- Debera Medina -Beck thing - 2/13/2010 11:29:03 AM   
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no.   that is how the link is not malformed.

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RE: vid- Debera Medina -Beck thing - 2/13/2010 11:36:09 AM   
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http://www.youtube.com/v/jNV32OXe2yQ

"Get rid of career politicians?" Such a cliché if you got rid of all the career politicians they'd be none left.
"Glen Beck's become a fraud?" Remove the word 'become' from that sentence and you is nearer the truth.

Medina is an idiot for suggesting there are more questions needing answering regarding 911, political career suicide.


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RE: vid- Debera Medina -Beck thing - 2/13/2010 11:43:58 AM   
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Beck is a fraud-   I thought that long ago.

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RE: vid- Debera Medina -Beck thing - 2/13/2010 11:48:15 AM   
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Beck has an amusing mannerism but people shouldn't take what he says seriously, that be foolish.

I'm glad you see at least this.

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RE: vid- Debera Medina -Beck thing - 2/13/2010 11:54:15 AM   
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Beck is a clown- there to fill seats.  Almost like Jerry Springer.   He is there to derail any meaningful change. 

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RE: vid- Debera Medina -Beck thing - 2/13/2010 11:55:22 AM   
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Now you are sounding like one of those progressives, I keep hearing about.

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RE: vid- Debera Medina -Beck thing - 2/13/2010 11:59:49 AM   
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Even if I had TV hook up- the only channel I would watch at the ones like PBS.

I dont know about progressive label.

But getting rid of the central bank is key to any reform.

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RE: vid- Debera Medina -Beck thing - 2/13/2010 12:02:56 PM   
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...or complete monetary chaos.

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RE: vid- Debera Medina -Beck thing - 2/13/2010 12:05:02 PM   
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that is coming anyway.

-- they will do a collapse- then "rescue" us- by offering a world central bank- ...and of course more restrictive everything.

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RE: vid- Debera Medina -Beck thing - 2/13/2010 12:09:25 PM   
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One world bank will not work unless you can set one interest rate which suits every economy.

No, back to the drawing board with yourself Mr hunkboy.

See Greece, see Euro etc..

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RE: vid- Debera Medina -Beck thing - 2/13/2010 12:24:15 PM   
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this is what globalism is all about.   a one world government, currency, etc.

the powers that be have been doing collapses since the 4th century.  they crash a place- buy thing up for pennies- then move on.

each time they gain more power.

at the moment - I dont think they are holding things together in the way they think they are.

It all all about control.

None of currencies are -  any good.   They are fiat.   Everything is intertwined in global finance.  The Greece thing is a bluff by teh city of London.    Because the bank on Brazil has a fake balance sheet- no real assets- it is a dummy holding company for underwater UK mortgages.   UK is in very bad shape.

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RE: vid- Debera Medina -Beck thing - 2/13/2010 12:28:06 PM   
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http://larouchepac.com/node/13516

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RE: vid- Debera Medina -Beck thing - 2/13/2010 12:32:57 PM   
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The fast-unravelling EU crisis is not a crisis of government budgets. It's the bank exposure, not government budgets; the budgets are only the excuse to impose fascism. "Absolutely," replied Lyndon LaRouche. "The banks are bankrupt. Exactly!— because they own assets which are worthless." European banks' exposure to public and private debts of Portugal, Ireland, Greece and Spain is estimated at $2.1 trillion, with Spanish debt by far the largest part. But the bigger problem is their derivatives exposure, at least an order of magnitude larger. EU conditions on Greece will include imposing a law under the Lisbon Treaty, that Greece must provide reliable economic statistics. "Who's going to make sure they're reliable?", LaRouche asked. "Because if they reported reliable statistics, it'll sink the whole system." Other conditionalities include Greece's establishing a contingency fund for "budget emergencies," amounting to 10% of current public-sector expenditures. LaRouche's diagnosis: "Let's just call this masturbation. It's pure masturbation. There's no reality to it whatsoever; it's a compulsion to lie. Everybody is now put under a compulsion to lie. The system is finished! It's over!" As British forces have tried to put forward the so-called BRIC alliance of Brazil, Russia, India and China as an alternative to LaRouche's Four-Power Initiative, no less an authority than Banco Santander's chief economist for Brazil, assured the public that the Eurozone crisis would not affect Brazil. LaRouche laughed uproariously at this. This expert went on that Greek debt is probably owned by investment and pension funds, so banks won't be affected. "Banks won't be affected?", laughed LaRouche. "These guys are really idiots, nuts! Brazil is not affected, and there will be no contagion,— they'll keep the bank breakdown inside Brazil!" In a related development, the Brazilian government is receiving all international flights by offering free condoms to the passengers, to "prevent contagion" during the Carnival. "It's hilarious," LaRouche summed up. "It's obvious that mass insanity has taken over the financial markets. That's what the truth is. Like this thing from Brazil: nothing bad can happen to us, because we're too big to collapse. We're Brazil! You're wrong, buddy: you're going to have a bigger collapse, because you're big. "This is the end-game" he said. "The world is in an end-game. "I know the truth," he added. "Others don't wish to know the truth. It's like they're putting their hands in front of their eyes. "The whole thing is coming down," LaRouche said. "There's no way. And the only way you can deal with it, is a general wipe-out, off the books, by a Glass-Steagall type of standard. Without that measure, there's no chance of civilization surviving this crisis. So, therefore, there has to be a global Glass-Steagall type wipeout of these fictitious assets. What is called the claims, is largely fictitious assets, and what you must do, is wipe it out, as Roosevelt did with the Glass-Steagall Act. It has to be a global one, and it means a lot of speculative banks will go under. So what! We're going to save the economy; we can't save all these banks. We can only save the ones that can pass the Glass-Steagall standard. All others are subject to re-assessment, shall we say. "There is no solution," LaRouche continued. "It's a general breakdown crisis of the entire international system, and there's no way that this is going to be miraculously cured, nor is anybody going to be able to save a lot of these worthless assets. What's needed is a global Glass-Steagall cleanout of the entire international financial system. Then we can start all over again, and we'll have all these happy, bankrupt ex-bankers, who now finally are able to take a lo-o-ong rest, from the strain of their careers. That's simply the reality. The reality is, that there has to be a global Glass-Steagalll, which means that there'll be nothing left of places like Wall Street. And people have to get used to that: We don't need Wall Street. It's going to have to go, because there's no way you can carry out a Glass-Stegall type of reform at this time, which is the only way the economies of the world can survive, without wiping out financial centers such as Wall Street. The effect will have to be that. That, regrettably for some people, is the price we have to pay for a recovery. And that's the point to make. Watch'em suffer! Let'em squirm! Squirm, worm! "It's a breakdown crisis," he concluded, "and they're all lying their heads off. And they're silly, on top of everything else!"/snip

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RE: vid- Debera Medina -Beck thing - 2/13/2010 1:26:46 PM   
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Have you heard of paragraphs?  You have to re-insert paragraphs when you clip stuff.

As it's been said before, LaRouche is a crank.

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RE: vid- Debera Medina -Beck thing - 2/13/2010 1:31:18 PM   
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Yea i agree, but FOX still list him as news, not a joke

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RE: vid- Debera Medina -Beck thing - 2/13/2010 1:38:30 PM   
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Have you heard of paragraphs?

Do you mean...







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RE: vid- Debera Medina -Beck thing - 2/13/2010 1:47:54 PM   
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Have you heard of paragraphs?  You have to re-insert paragraphs when you clip stuff.

As it's been said before, LaRouche is a crank.



So then you say the banks are solvent?

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RE: vid- Debera Medina -Beck thing - 2/13/2010 2:15:10 PM   
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As it's been said before, LaRouche is a crank.


I want to see a debate between LaRouche and Beck.

But only after I smoke a few bowls and turn the lights down low, with Dark Side Of The Moon playing in the background.

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