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domiguy -> RE: Remember all those discussions we had about the "rights of terrorist" ...? (2/15/2010 7:30:21 PM)

we should then go into pakistan and capture the terrorists.

Did you even read the article?




FirmhandKY -> RE: Remember all those discussions we had about the "rights of terrorist" ...? (2/15/2010 7:35:05 PM)

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ORIGINAL: domiguy

we should then go into pakistan and capture the terrorists.

Did you even read the article?


Wasn't it candidate Obama who pledged (promised?) that he would go into Pakistan to get OBL, and chase the terrorist as necessary?

Firm




jlf1961 -> RE: Remember all those discussions we had about the "rights of terrorist" ...? (2/15/2010 7:42:25 PM)

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WASHINGTON (Reuters) – The top military commander of the Taliban, Mullah Abdul Ghani Baradar, has been captured in Karachi, Pakistan, in a secret raid by U.S. and Pakistani intelligence forces, The New York Times reported on Monday.

Citing U.S. government officials, the Times said Mullah Baradar, described as the most significant Taliban figure captured since the start of the Afghanistan war, had been in Pakistani custody for several days and was being interrogated by U.S. and Pakistani intelligence.

The Times said it was not clear if he was talking, but quoted the officials as saying his capture could lead to other senior Taliban officials.


It would seem that there are operations to capture terrorists.





DomKen -> RE: Remember all those discussions we had about the "rights of terrorist" ...? (2/15/2010 9:18:01 PM)


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ORIGINAL: FirmhandKY

quote:

ORIGINAL: domiguy

we should then go into pakistan and capture the terrorists.

Did you even read the article?


Wasn't it candidate Obama who pledged (promised?) that he would go into Pakistan to get OBL, and chase the terrorist as necessary?

Firm

You mean like we just did?
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/02/16/world/asia/16intel.html?emc=na

I'm laughing so hard I scared my cat.




Marini -> RE: Remember all those discussions we had about the "rights of terrorist" ...? (2/15/2010 9:19:11 PM)

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ORIGINAL: DomKen


quote:

ORIGINAL: FirmhandKY

quote:

ORIGINAL: domiguy

we should then go into pakistan and capture the terrorists.

Did you even read the article?


Wasn't it candidate Obama who pledged (promised?) that he would go into Pakistan to get OBL, and chase the terrorist as necessary?

Firm

You mean like we just did?
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/02/16/world/asia/16intel.html?emc=na

I'm laughing so hard I scared my cat.


Poor cat, now you have me laughing also.




Aynne88 -> RE: Remember all those discussions we had about the "rights of terrorist" ...? (2/16/2010 2:41:51 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Thadius


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ORIGINAL: Aynne88

Good morning Firm. Usual suspect present and accounted for.

Absolute certainty that they are engaged in or planning a terrorist act against the US?  Kill the fuckers.

Keep human beings in Gitmo or simialr for months or years based on nada like little shrub did? No.

Now if only kittin comes and plays Firm will be happy. If that is Firm can ever be happy with Obama running the country . Sweet sweet justice after the 8 years we had to suffer through Firm, trust me on that.



My apologies Aynne, I missed this post in the thread.


And quite alright. Loathe as I am to admit this Thadius, I am glad to see you back. Your conservative compadres have certainly not been worthy opponents, even for me.[;)]. Now, Mike's theory actually makes sense....I do see a few verrrry similar posting styles. Who knew? Either way, glad to see you back. 




LadyEllen -> RE: Remember all those discussions we had about the "rights of terrorist" ...? (2/16/2010 11:56:31 AM)

Mullah Abdul Ghani Berader (or Baradar) - arrested in Karachi its being reported; apparently Taliban Nr 2.

E




FirmhandKY -> RE: Remember all those discussions we had about the "rights of terrorist" ...? (2/16/2010 2:31:01 PM)

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ORIGINAL: DomKen


quote:

ORIGINAL: FirmhandKY

quote:

ORIGINAL: domiguy

we should then go into pakistan and capture the terrorists.

Did you even read the article?


Wasn't it candidate Obama who pledged (promised?) that he would go into Pakistan to get OBL, and chase the terrorist as necessary?

Firm

You mean like we just did?
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/02/16/world/asia/16intel.html?emc=na

I'm laughing so hard I scared my cat.


Reading the thread for content, you might see that my comments were in response to Domi's discussion in post 45 about our agreements not to go into Pakistan.  I have no problem with Obama doing so.

In fact, pointing out that we have indeed gone into Pakistan undercuts Domi's original argument about me not posting "the full truth".

Firm




willbeurdaddy -> RE: Remember all those discussions we had about the "rights of terrorist" ...? (2/16/2010 2:36:01 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Aynne88

Patronizing condescension.....mmmm. Tasty. I would be lost without that, being a girl and all.[8|]

No Thadius not everyone starts threads on half truths, and neglected information pertinent to the discussion. Since your brief absence, we have had a deluge of right wing nuts that are I daresay extreme even for here, cuck and won'tbemydaddy being two of the most infamous.
Firm started this thread and Domi pointing out some rather obviously overlooked information gets ignored by the Bushies. Typical.

Oh and I think most likely policy driven. Like you really wanted to know.


Extreme? Im center right. Half truths and neglected information? Put up or shut up. Never happened.




willbeurdaddy -> RE: Remember all those discussions we had about the "rights of terrorist" ...? (2/16/2010 2:39:14 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Aynne88

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ORIGINAL: Thadius


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ORIGINAL: Aynne88

Good morning Firm. Usual suspect present and accounted for.

Absolute certainty that they are engaged in or planning a terrorist act against the US?  Kill the fuckers.

Keep human beings in Gitmo or simialr for months or years based on nada like little shrub did? No.

Now if only kittin comes and plays Firm will be happy. If that is Firm can ever be happy with Obama running the country . Sweet sweet justice after the 8 years we had to suffer through Firm, trust me on that.



My apologies Aynne, I missed this post in the thread.


And quite alright. Loathe as I am to admit this Thadius, I am glad to see you back. Your conservative compadres have certainly not been worthy opponents, even for me.[;)]. Now, Mike's theory actually makes sense....I do see a few verrrry similar posting styles. Who knew? Either way, glad to see you back. 


From what I can recall youve never once responded to a post of mine with anything substantive. Bring it on and we'll see who's worthy. Till then leave me the fuck out of your bullshit comments.




slvemike4u -> RE: Remember all those discussions we had about the "rights of terrorist" ...? (2/16/2010 2:40:17 PM)

You are center right?...Whose center? And right of what?




Jeffff -> RE: Remember all those discussions we had about the "rights of terrorist" ...? (2/16/2010 2:41:39 PM)

wilbur? you have never posted anything substantive.


Jeff






DomKen -> RE: Remember all those discussions we had about the "rights of terrorist" ...? (2/16/2010 3:27:10 PM)


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ORIGINAL: FirmhandKY

quote:

ORIGINAL: DomKen


quote:

ORIGINAL: FirmhandKY

quote:

ORIGINAL: domiguy

we should then go into pakistan and capture the terrorists.

Did you even read the article?


Wasn't it candidate Obama who pledged (promised?) that he would go into Pakistan to get OBL, and chase the terrorist as necessary?

Firm

You mean like we just did?
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/02/16/world/asia/16intel.html?emc=na

I'm laughing so hard I scared my cat.


Reading the thread for content, you might see that my comments were in response to Domi's discussion in post 45 about our agreements not to go into Pakistan.  I have no problem with Obama doing so.

In fact, pointing out that we have indeed gone into Pakistan undercuts Domi's original argument about me not posting "the full truth".

Firm


The whole premise of your thread was proven false by that story. Stop pretending otherwise.

BTW my cousin has just entered treatment for her passive aggressive behaviour. If you're still living in Georgia maybe you'd like the docs phone number?




FirmhandKY -> RE: Remember all those discussions we had about the "rights of terrorist" ...? (2/16/2010 4:44:07 PM)

Pray tell ... what am I "pretending", and what has been proven wrong,  my good friend?  [:D]

Firm




willbeurdaddy -> RE: Remember all those discussions we had about the "rights of terrorist" ...? (2/16/2010 4:55:45 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Jeffff

wilbur? you have never posted anything substantive.


Jeff





Another sycophant heard from. Search my posts asshole.




MrRodgers -> RE: Remember all those discussions we had about the "rights of terrorist" ...? (2/16/2010 5:45:07 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Thadius


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ORIGINAL: FirmhandKY

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ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy

Read them their Miranda rights, then slit their throats for like they would ours. They'll remain silent for sure.


The "usual suspects" are deafening in their silence.

Firm


Now that is not fair. They are obviously researching the topic. Getting to know all of the ins an outs.

Trying to find a way to blame Bush and or Palin for the current policies.

Not hard to do that for Bush anyway. The Taliban were never the problem, only Bin laden. The Taliban only allowed him to recruit from his flock (he got 2 men total) which was the birth of 'Al-Quada.'

Once Bin Laden 'escaped' going after the Taliban has been a ruse to spend more war dollars (chasing rabbits) and likely to secure pipeline as any reason.

Some of those 'ins and outs' are the fact that at the start we used men and material to get those we want and with Afghanistan being the longest 'war' in American history we decided to use technology and save American lives.

One of those that have 'learned the ins and outs' is George Will who says we should protect Afghan. mainly from off-shore with just this kind of technology...whoever it kills and to only to prevent Al-Quada from reforming there.

The rest of the story is that the Taliban refused Bin Laden and his 'Al-Quada' help in attacking the US and never wanted to attack the US or the west they being more concerned about corrupt Arab govt. and the general 'westernizing' of Islam and their orthodoxy.

The 'war' against the Taliban is not a war against terrorism. It is a war against a culture we believe leads to those who would find some grievance against the US like most of the lone wolves such as the soldier from Ft. hood and the Nigerian airplane bomber who were lead (seduced) by online imams or so-called cyber-clerics into attacking the US to exact some personal justice.

Look, I have a question for real patriots who so often site our original founding beliefs. Aren't we as man (mankind) endowed with rights ? Weren't these rights to be self-evident, and inalienable rights (not granted by govt.) but by our creator ?

If we believe that, then we believe it for all of mankind not based on race or geography or religion. Miranda and the treatment for the xmas bomber has yielded as much or more intelligence and more likely usable because he has been judge innocent...until proven guilty, then if we tortured him.

BTW to my knowledge, we are apprehending whoever we can over there and they are incarcerated and interrogated over there for the time being.




slvemike4u -> RE: Remember all those discussions we had about the "rights of terrorist" ...? (2/16/2010 8:43:30 PM)

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ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy


quote:

ORIGINAL: Jeffff

wilbur? you have never posted anything substantive.


Jeff





Another sycophant heard from. Search my posts asshole.
Your usual bullshit stinks the first time by....why would anyone go back for another pass at 'em?




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