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ORIGINAL: lucylucy
Sure, but the Dominant should also understand that submission isn't one-size-fits-all and her submission may not look like someone else's. osf, you know damn well that there isn't one definition of "submissive." A Dominant can take it for granted that she identifies as submissive, but what exactly that means to her he can't take for granted.

in my own thinking i don't even think submissive or slave but obedience

Then why not ask "if she comes to the relationship claiming to be obedient can the dominant take it for granted she is?"

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ORIGINAL: lucylucy
Sure, but the Dominant should also understand that submission isn't one-size-fits-all and her submission may not look like someone else's. osf, you know damn well that there isn't one definition of "submissive." A Dominant can take it for granted that she identifies as submissive, but what exactly that means to her he can't take for granted.

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ORIGINAL: Whiplashsmile4

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ORIGINAL: lucylucy
Sure, but the Dominant should also understand that submission isn't one-size-fits-all and her submission may not look like someone else's. osf, you know damn well that there isn't one definition of "submissive." A Dominant can take it for granted that she identifies as submissive, but what exactly that means to her he can't take for granted.

Will somebody give this girl some NZ points for this response. :-)

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ORIGINAL: lucylucy

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ORIGINAL: lucylucy
Sure, but the Dominant should also understand that submission isn't one-size-fits-all and her submission may not look like someone else's. osf, you know damn well that there isn't one definition of "submissive." A Dominant can take it for granted that she identifies as submissive, but what exactly that means to her he can't take for granted.

in my own thinking i don't even think submissive or slave but obedience

Then why not ask "if she comes to the relationship claiming to be obedient can the dominant take it for granted she is?"

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ORIGINAL: osf

if she comes to the relationship claiming to be submissive/slave can the dominant take it for granted she is?

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ORIGINAL: sunshinemiss

Where do you come up with these ridiculous questions, osf?

i was bored

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ORIGINAL: lucylucy
Sure, but the Dominant should also understand that submission isn't one-size-fits-all and her submission may not look like someone else's. osf, you know damn well that there isn't one definition of "submissive." A Dominant can take it for granted that she identifies as submissive, but what exactly that means to her he can't take for granted.

in my own thinking i don't even think submissive or slave but obedience

Then why not ask "if she comes to the relationship claiming to be obedient can the dominant take it for granted she is?"

Especially because not all submissives are obedience wired. Just because you want obedience and not service doesn't mean that someone who is focused on serving but not being ordered around isn't submissive. Or someone who detests getting ordered but loves pleasing people. Or is into emotional transparency as her core drive for submission.

By assuming that all submissives are obedience wired you are going to meet all kinds of people who aren't compatible with you. So ask first and don't waste their time.

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if she comes to the relationship claiming to be submissive/slave can the dominant take it for granted she is?

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if she comes to the relationship claiming to be submissive/slave can the dominant take it for granted she is?

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ORIGINAL: OriginallyFromLA

Domliness: The abillity to compel someone into doing something they wanted to do anyway.

Subliness: The abillity to compel someone into thinking they are making you do something you wanted to do anyway.

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ORIGINAL: OriginallyFromLA

Domliness: The abillity to compel someone into doing something they wanted to do anyway.

Subliness: The abillity to compel someone into thinking they are making you do something you wanted to do anyway.

Nice one LA
I like it

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ORIGINAL: osf

if she comes to the relationship claiming to be submissive/slave can the dominant take it for granted she is?

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ORIGINAL: OriginallyFromLA

Domliness: The abillity to compel someone into doing something they wanted to do anyway.

Subliness: The abillity to compel someone into thinking they are making you do something you wanted to do anyway.

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if she comes to the relationship claiming to be submissive/slave can the dominant take it for granted she is?

The "taken for granted" part screws up the question... what's essentially being asked here is:

"If a person has labeled themselves a sub/slave, can you assume they are?"

Answer:  Yes, in THEIR mind, but maybe not in YOUR mind, as everyone has their own ideas and expectations.

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I will agree there are different levels of submissiveness so it's probably not good to judge each other as less or more because of our own standards..That goes for both sides.