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WinsomeDefiance -> RE: A legend returns ... (2/18/2010 9:41:33 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BLoved quote: ORIGINAL: WinsomeDefiance This has been bothering me. I respect a persons identity choice. I've known a great many confident and assured cross dressers, transgenders, etc. I have respect for the prejudices and obstacles they face, just being the person they know themselves to be. So why is WendyDarling/Alices sexual idententy an issue? Aside from how blatantly offensive and insulting of others this individual has been in the past, does it really matter? I had to ask myself, where did the shock and offense come from, exactly? And how would my jokes about WendyDarling/Alices sexual identity be perceived by others reading my posts about it. It occured to me, that I was not proud of my behavior. I was wondering if anyone else would notice that. I would not expect anyone else to notice my concern for how my behavior in my own posts, might be perceived by others.

alicenwondrland -> RE: A legend returns ... (2/18/2010 9:42:16 AM)
quote: Aside from how blatantly offensive and insulting of others this individual has been in the past, does it really matter? I had to ask myself, where did the shock and offense come from, exactly? Blatantly offensive? Insulting? ME? [:D] Look at how the mass of you responded to a person who was simply being jovial and upbeat. Wow.

WinsomeDefiance -> RE: A legend returns ... (2/18/2010 9:43:52 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: alicenwondrland quote: Aside from how blatantly offensive and insulting of others this individual has been in the past, does it really matter? I had to ask myself, where did the shock and offense come from, exactly? Blatantly offensive? Insulting? ME? [:D] Look at how the mass of you responded to a person who was simply being jovial and upbeat. Wow. Don't worry, Alice. There are still plenty of offensive issues you have that are open season to address. You needn't worry about being ignored.

alicenwondrland -> RE: A legend returns ... (2/18/2010 9:43:59 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: GreedyTop wendy... use the balls you wish werent there, and respond like a ma.. erm woman! ew

BLoved -> RE: A legend returns ... (2/18/2010 9:45:53 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: WinsomeDefiance quote: ORIGINAL: BLoved quote: ORIGINAL: WinsomeDefiance This has been bothering me. I respect a persons identity choice. I've known a great many confident and assured cross dressers, transgenders, etc. I have respect for the prejudices and obstacles they face, just being the person they know themselves to be. So why is WendyDarling/Alices sexual idententy an issue? Aside from how blatantly offensive and insulting of others this individual has been in the past, does it really matter? I had to ask myself, where did the shock and offense come from, exactly? And how would my jokes about WendyDarling/Alices sexual identity be perceived by others reading my posts about it. It occured to me, that I was not proud of my behavior. I was wondering if anyone else would notice that. I would not expect anyone else to notice my concern for how my behavior in my own posts, might be perceived by others. That's not what I was talking about. I'm referring to the way people so easily stigmatized Alice's sexual identity simply because they do not like her. So many prejudiced people just waiting for an excuse to flaunt their prejudice. No self-control whatsoever.

LadyPact -> RE: A legend returns ... (2/18/2010 9:47:40 AM)
Just a couple of things to address. Lance, I was at Thunder In The Mountains this past year. However, I'm afraid I didn't see the scene you are referring to. I was a bit....... occupied..... during the dungeon portions of the event. I'm quite sorry that I missed it, as I would have been very interested in watching. I may only be attending one major event this year. Now I have one more reason to make that trip to CO. Julia, I want to take the time to thank you for including actual data within this thread. You were the only one who could bring something to the table that was more than personal opinion. I'm still waiting for the verifiable scientific study from the OP to support his claims. Lacking such is nothing more than hypothesis. When I see an actual study to support the OP's position, rather than just his own writings it may be worth revisiting. Alice, I'm here to tell you right here and now that I consider GT a personal friend of Mine. I can promise you that if this conversation were in person, rather than on a message board, I would have no issue with telling you to have a little more courtesy when speaking to her or about her. That's the most polite thing that I can say on the subject.

BLoved -> RE: A legend returns ... (2/18/2010 9:48:50 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: alicenwondrland Look at how the mass of you responded to a person who was simply being jovial and upbeat. Wow. Indeed. 500 posts to tell me how worthless a human I am. Collarme is such a friendly, open-minded, nonjudgmental kind of place, isn't it ;)

Jeffff -> RE: A legend returns ... (2/18/2010 9:49:32 AM)
Bob?... you are amazing!.... If I could buy you for what you are worth and then sell you for what you think you are worth, I could retire! Jeff

LadyPact -> RE: A legend returns ... (2/18/2010 9:49:46 AM)
LOL. Dammit. I actually forgot there was an OP. My bad.

divi -> RE: A legend returns ... (2/18/2010 9:50:24 AM)
Sell him on Ebay !

GreedyTop -> RE: A legend returns ... (2/18/2010 9:50:46 AM)
Winnie.. my issue with wendy's gender identity is that she (out of the blue) sent me an email attacking my appearance. She's telling me that I am the ugliest thing to hit the boards, questions my body type (which I am QUITE happy with, thank you) while denying the fact that she is actually born MALE.

alicenwondrland -> RE: A legend returns ... (2/18/2010 9:51:05 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ResidentSadist quote: ORIGINAL: WinsomeDefiance . . . It occured to me, that I was not proud of my behavior. I agree. You should be punished for teasing the nasty drag queen. Go to my room! Don't worry, its quite clear to most people what exactly happened here between her and the other women on here, and me. I am sure they can figure it out for themselves. There is after all, a couple major points of difference that stick out. cough jealous cough

divi -> RE: A legend returns ... (2/18/2010 9:52:46 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: alicenwondrland quote: ORIGINAL: ResidentSadist quote: ORIGINAL: WinsomeDefiance . . . It occured to me, that I was not proud of my behavior. I agree. You should be punished for teasing the nasty drag queen. Go to my room! Don't worry, its quite clear to most people what exactly happened here between her and the other women on here, and me. I am sure they can figure it out for themselves. There is after all, a couple major points of difference that stick out. cough jealous cough lol... yep one point in particular... your dick lol

GreedyTop -> RE: A legend returns ... (2/18/2010 9:53:39 AM)
adores Lady P warmest regards to the family

alicenwondrland -> RE: A legend returns ... (2/18/2010 9:54:16 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BLoved quote: ORIGINAL: alicenwondrland Look at how the mass of you responded to a person who was simply being jovial and upbeat. Wow. Indeed. 500 posts to tell me how worthless a human I am. Collarme is such a friendly, open-minded, nonjudgmental kind of place, isn't it ;) Don't worry, I got about the same. However, to be fair, all I had done was ask why all the men on here were middle-aged and was very respectful about it until I got unexpectedly attacked over and over and went 'sicilinsane'. You on the other hand are proselytizing to a group that doesn't respect your paradigm- you have to know Go travel.... go west, young man, go west......I acted out of anger... you are acting out of either masochism or delusion.

LadyPact -> RE: A legend returns ... (2/18/2010 9:55:04 AM)
As I adore you. Visit soon.

GreedyTop -> RE: A legend returns ... (2/18/2010 9:55:31 AM)
wah wah wah. Guess those balls of yours need growing, 'wendy'.

alicenwondrland -> RE: A legend returns ... (2/18/2010 9:57:09 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: GreedyTop wah wah wah. Guess those balls of yours need growing, 'wendy'. Dude. Get a life.

BLoved -> RE: A legend returns ... (2/18/2010 9:57:48 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: alicenwondrland you are acting out of either masochism or delusion. Neither, actually. Since their opinions are those of immature individuals, they cannot hurt me. I am not under the impression that I will change the mind of any poster here. However, this thread has had over 5000 hits. My profile/journal and stories in the Creative Writing forum are also getting attention. A lot of people are reading my words. Who knows what seeds are being planted?

alicenwondrland -> RE: A legend returns ... (2/18/2010 9:59:04 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: GreedyTop Winnie.. my issue with wendy's gender identity is that she (out of the blue) sent me an email attacking my appearance. She's telling me that I am the ugliest thing to hit the boards, questions my body type (which I am QUITE happy with, thank you) while denying the fact that she is actually born MALE. It wasn't me [8\|] Ironic that someone with a face like that attacking ME for being a male. What gives you the right? And its any wonder I was nasty to you? P.S. Who attacked who's looks first?

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