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dreamerdreaming -> RE: A legend returns ... (2/18/2010 6:40:19 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: alicenwondrland quote: They failed to convince me their One True Way was correct and, being unable to tolerate anyone who challenged their authority, they had me banned. Are you sure they have a One True Way or are they more similar to you than you think? [sm=applause.gif][sm=applause.gif][sm=applause.gif][sm=goodpost.gif] We need a smiley with a pot calling a kettle black.

Lockit -> RE: A legend returns ... (2/18/2010 6:42:23 PM)
Don't put words in my mouth. I didn't say you were unhinged. I said you were argumentative, had a self rightous ego and a couple of other things. I stand on the fact that you will not admit to those things and will point a finger elsewhere to deflect from yourself. Even when people offered you kindness in your grief, you lashed out with all you lash out with. You are no different today than you were yesterday. I rarely am trying to impress anyone. I say what I think and mean what I say.

BLoved -> RE: A legend returns ... (2/18/2010 6:47:33 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Lockit Don't put words in my mouth. I didn't say you were unhinged. ... Even when people offered you kindness in your grief, you lashed out with all you lash out with. And that defines "unhinged" as far as I am concerned. Must be nice to be so perfect that you can say with authority anyone who challenges you is insane ;) Nice way to deflect any criticism and place blame on the shoulders of others rather than accepting responsiblity for your own behaviour.

Lockit -> RE: A legend returns ... (2/18/2010 6:52:10 PM)
Nice... we kept that short and sweet didn't we? No long post to prove anything. You have a nice night there Bloved.

alicenwondrland -> RE: A legend returns ... (2/18/2010 6:57:01 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BLoved quote: ORIGINAL: Lockit I can find respect for people who make mistakes and admit them as a few posters on this thread have. Bloved, you have had people gracefully admit to some error and a smoother path was found. I can respect that a lot and I am sure other's can as well. But you continue to blame others, deflect and refuse to address your own actions that were blantant on these boards before and to this day. You will not confront where you may have a personal issue other than grief that may justify many things, but not many of the things you perpetuate upon others. That is not grief, but a charactor issue in my opinion. You have proven yourself well. Thank you and have a good night. I can understand the need to claim I am in some way unhinged, how else can you explain anyone challenging your authority aside from insanity? Unfortunately, my words fail to provide any evidence of this. Attempts to claim I am somehow grief-stricken and not in control of myself are laughable, considering how this thread has unfolded. While the immature will lap it up, the lady I seek won't be found amongst them. Enjoy your evening with the immature whom you are so eager to impress. I don't think anyone here has "authority" nor do you- there are simply lifestyles that different people engage in.

BLoved -> RE: A legend returns ... (2/18/2010 6:57:56 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Lockit No long post to prove anything. Almost 700 posts to tell collarme I am a worthless human being undeserving of human company? ~smile~ I think there are more than a few who felt the need to "prove" something. This thread is a testament to their 'maturity'.

alicenwondrland -> RE: A legend returns ... (2/18/2010 6:58:45 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: dreamerdreaming quote: ORIGINAL: alicenwondrland quote: They failed to convince me their One True Way was correct and, being unable to tolerate anyone who challenged their authority, they had me banned. Are you sure they have a One True Way or are they more similar to you than you think? [sm=applause.gif][sm=applause.gif][sm=applause.gif][sm=goodpost.gif] We need a smiley with a pot calling a kettle black. huh? I am only trying to explain to him that you guys are not so different than him. What are YOU trying to say?

Smutmonger -> RE: A legend returns ... (2/18/2010 6:59:01 PM)
Bob,I am sorry the you feel so alone and unfullfilled. How do you think you can change your life to overcome this?

WinsomeDefiance -> RE: A legend returns ... (2/18/2010 7:00:40 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: alicenwondrland quote: No Wendy/Alice you are not an attacker. You are a cowardly sniper, hiding behind the anonymity of email. And you had no problem making several attempted self-esteem assassinations in the past. Just because you wake up in a new world every day, doesn't mean everyone else does. Well sure because, EMAIL and MESSAGE BOARDS are so different. [sm=ofcourse.gif] I think what you really mean, WD, is that if I attack you via EMAIL- it is one on one; whereas if I attack you on the MESSAGE BOARD, your groupthink gang will all come to defend you. Is that what you mean by being a 'cowardly sniper'? Fighting you fairly? No AliceDarling, I'm saying I think it is deceitful cowardly sniping to viciously insult, threaten, malign and/or attack numerous people in unsolicted email, block them before they can respond, and then attempt to present ones self as a misunderstood victim being ganged up on by the masses.

alicenwondrland -> RE: A legend returns ... (2/18/2010 7:13:40 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BLoved quote: ORIGINAL: Lockit No long post to prove anything. Almost 700 posts to tell collarme I am a worthless human being undeserving of human company? ~smile~ I think there are more than a few who felt the need to "prove" something. This thread is a testament to their 'maturity'. Well yes there definitely are. Because they're empty. Two of them just out of the blue, up and told an entire thread of people that I am a dude- lol, which is hilarious considering this website isn't exactly the appropriate place to be libeling people's sexual identities (and I am so clearly younger and better looking HEH. [sm=banana.gif]) However, my retarded message board problems aside for a minute (dear god it is addicting though. I have been ignoring my phone and facebook for days now)- BOB you need to know that you are NOT a worthless human being undeserving of human company!!!! I have enjoyed speaking with you! The people on here have issues(hence their posting morning, noon and night for like, years and years and years). It is sad. Their ability to empathize with human beings is greatly compromised from the internet. They've been nearly brainwashed...my point is to take all the insults here with a grain of salt. Please, this place is not reflective of the outside human realm lol. It is a hideous dungeon below the surface of the earth that has never seen light; it is full of cruel specters, poisonous miasmas, mold, vicious bats and vitrioiic fat ladies who will ambush you with their big mouths. It is not a place that can be enlightened. It is the depths of the underworld. It is the 4th ring of hell. It is the realm of Lucifer. It is the darkest, most searing nightmare you've woken up from. It is not a pretty place. I love it here. Can you tell? [sm=afraid.gif]

alicenwondrland -> RE: A legend returns ... (2/18/2010 7:14:41 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: WinsomeDefiance quote: ORIGINAL: alicenwondrland quote: No Wendy/Alice you are not an attacker. You are a cowardly sniper, hiding behind the anonymity of email. And you had no problem making several attempted self-esteem assassinations in the past. Just because you wake up in a new world every day, doesn't mean everyone else does. Well sure because, EMAIL and MESSAGE BOARDS are so different. [sm=ofcourse.gif] I think what you really mean, WD, is that if I attack you via EMAIL- it is one on one; whereas if I attack you on the MESSAGE BOARD, your groupthink gang will all come to defend you. Is that what you mean by being a 'cowardly sniper'? Fighting you fairly? No AliceDarling, I'm saying I think it is deceitful cowardly sniping to viciously insult, threaten, malign and/or attack numerous people in unsolicted email, block them before they can respond, and then attempt to present ones self as a misunderstood victim being ganged up on by the masses. Huh?

BLoved -> RE: A legend returns ... (2/18/2010 7:16:40 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Smutmonger Bob,I am sorry the you feel so alone and unfullfilled. How do you think you can change your life to overcome this? I don't think it is a matter of changing my life, so much as living my life honestly and honourably. Life is a process. Through life I grow, learn, express, consider, explore, experience, reflect, re-consider, and grow some more. We are social creatures, most at ease within secure social networks. Love is the ultimate expression of our social nature. Thus I seek the opportunity to develop a loving relationship with a lady who wishes to follow where I lead, a lady for whom I inspire her best as she inspires me to achieve my best. Whether that opportunity will again appear in my life I cannot say. I am well aware of the odds against it, yet the odds have always been against it and I've been fortunate enough to have known true love three times in my life, spanning 20 of the past 27 years. Of course I was younger and lived in Canada's largest city at the time. The last time I did this I was in my 30s. I am discovering it is not nearly as easy at 52 (which I will be 'celebrating' in a week). But I know life offers no guarantees, and I expect none. Life is a process ... either my path will lead me to the lady I seek, or it won't. Either way, the only way to find out is to live my life honestly and honourably. And I have no intentions of changing that.

Smutmonger -> RE: A legend returns ... (2/18/2010 7:23:50 PM)
I've seen people get there by innumerable ways Bob. I know that you feel you must do it by a certain formula. I see the end result as being the valued part-not neccesarily doing it by a set path.

alicenwondrland -> RE: A legend returns ... (2/18/2010 7:24:54 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: WinsomeDefiance quote: ORIGINAL: alicenwondrland quote: No Wendy/Alice you are not an attacker. You are a cowardly sniper, hiding behind the anonymity of email. And you had no problem making several attempted self-esteem assassinations in the past. Just because you wake up in a new world every day, doesn't mean everyone else does. Well sure because, EMAIL and MESSAGE BOARDS are so different. [sm=ofcourse.gif] I think what you really mean, WD, is that if I attack you via EMAIL- it is one on one; whereas if I attack you on the MESSAGE BOARD, your groupthink gang will all come to defend you. Is that what you mean by being a 'cowardly sniper'? Fighting you fairly? No AliceDarling, I'm saying I think it is deceitful cowardly sniping to viciously insult, threaten, malign and/or attack numerous people in unsolicted email, block them before they can respond, and then attempt to present ones self as a misunderstood victim being ganged up on by the masses. Well WMD, #1. Desperately enraged, the emails may be. Immature even. But deceitful and cowardly- certainly not, when you and your cronies both started attacked me unprovoked first- and also continued to attack me viciously on the boards. Also I will have you know that there were members of the board (can't remember who now) who - before I sent any of those emails out- had done the same thing to me. One of your friends I suppose. So do not try to play innocent. You're a big girl. With a bunch of friends on here. #2. It's pretty obvious whether or not I was a "misunderstood victim ganged up on by the masses". It's all there.It's not just me you guys do this too. THIS IS WHAT YOU GUYS DO. You are predators. Over and over you d the same thing. So many of you have been banned in the past. I never said I was a victim or tried to "play" anything in any way". How could I be misunderstood" when on a MESSAGE BOARD? I AM WRITING. WORDS. They mean what they appear to mean- I am not a San bushmen or a member of the Yanomano tribe. I am not dyslexic. If I was misunderstood then it was my fault for writing unclearly. Everything I wrote I mean. Where did I say I was misunderstood? Further, most importantly, I WAS "ganged up on by the masses" as I have mentioned before. If there is one person fighting (in whatever way) against 20 or 30 people would you say this is A FAIR FIGHT? Yet here you are weeks later complaining about how I sent you an angry email and how DARE I call anyone on ganing up against me. jesus friggchristf@^E%#*@shit[sm=banghead.gif] Entertainment out.

alicenwondrland -> RE: A legend returns ... (2/18/2010 7:26:37 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BLoved quote: ORIGINAL: Smutmonger Bob,I am sorry the you feel so alone and unfullfilled. How do you think you can change your life to overcome this? I don't think it is a matter of changing my life, so much as living my life honestly and honourably. Life is a process. Through life I grow, learn, express, consider, explore, experience, reflect, re-consider, and grow some more. We are social creatures, most at ease within secure social networks. Love is the ultimate expression of our social nature. Thus I seek the opportunity to develop a loving relationship with a lady who wishes to follow where I lead, a lady for whom I inspire her best as she inspires me to achieve my best. Whether that opportunity will again appear in my life I cannot say. I am well aware of the odds against it, yet the odds have always been against it and I've been fortunate enough to have known true love three times in my life, spanning 20 of the past 27 years. Of course I was younger and lived in Canada's largest city at the time. The last time I did this I was in my 30s. I am discovering it is not nearly as easy at 52 (which I will be 'celebrating' in a week). But I know life offers no guarantees, and I expect none. Life is a process ... either my path will lead me to the lady I seek, or it won't. Either way, the only way to find out is to live my life honestly and honourably. And I have no intentions of changing that. [sm=birthday.gif]

BLoved -> RE: A legend returns ... (2/18/2010 7:28:00 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: alicenwondrland BOB you need to know that you are NOT a worthless human being undeserving of human company!!!! I have enjoyed speaking with you! Thank you. I am aware that I have value, and that the lady I seek will see that value. But I think one would have to be deliberately obtuse not to recognize the underlying message behind the vast majority of posts to this thread.

xxblushesxx -> RE: A legend returns ... (2/18/2010 7:31:35 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: alicenwondrland quote: ORIGINAL: WinsomeDefiance quote: ORIGINAL: alicenwondrland quote: No Wendy/Alice you are not an attacker. You are a cowardly sniper, hiding behind the anonymity of email. And you had no problem making several attempted self-esteem assassinations in the past. Just because you wake up in a new world every day, doesn't mean everyone else does. Well sure because, EMAIL and MESSAGE BOARDS are so different. [sm=ofcourse.gif] I think what you really mean, WD, is that if I attack you via EMAIL- it is one on one; whereas if I attack you on the MESSAGE BOARD, your groupthink gang will all come to defend you. Is that what you mean by being a 'cowardly sniper'? Fighting you fairly? No AliceDarling, I'm saying I think it is deceitful cowardly sniping to viciously insult, threaten, malign and/or attack numerous people in unsolicted email, block them before they can respond, and then attempt to present ones self as a misunderstood victim being ganged up on by the masses. #1. Desperately enraged, the emails may be. Immature even. But deceitful and cowardly- certainly not, when you and your cronies both started attacked me unprovoked first- and also continued to attack me viciously on the boards. Also I will have you know that there were members of the board (can't remember who now) who - before I sent any of those emails out- had done the same thing to me. One of your friends I suppose. So do not try to play innocent. You're a big girl. With a bunch of friends on here. #2. It's pretty obvious whether or not I was a "misunderstood victim ganged up on by the masses". It's all there.It's not just me you guys do this too. THIS IS WHAT YOU GUYS DO. You are predators. Over and over you d the same thing. So many of you have been banned in the past. I never said I was a victim or tried to "play" anything in any way". How could I be misunderstood" when on a MESSAGE BOARD? I AM WRITING. WORDS. They mean what they appear to mean- I am not a San bushmen or a member of the Yanomano tribe. I am not dyslexic. If I was misunderstood then it was my fault for writing unclearly. Everything I wrote I mean. Where did I say I was misunderstood? Further, most importantly, I WAS "ganged up on by the masses" as I have mentioned before. If there is one person fighting (in whatever way) against 20 or 30 people would you say this is A FAIR FIGHT? Yet here you are weeks later complaining about how I sent you an angry email and how DARE I call anyone on ganing up against me. jesus friggchristf@^E%#*@shit[sm=banghead.gif] Entertainment out. Many of us welcomed you. Many of us tried to help you every time you typed something rude and socially unaceptable. We were met with derision and scorn. As far as I'm concerned you're nothing but a troll. (one who is very insecure in his femininity or you wouldn't continue to point out that some of us are older, curvier, and infinitely less attractive than you.)[8\|]

BLoved -> RE: A legend returns ... (2/18/2010 7:33:06 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Smutmonger I've seen people get there by innumerable ways Bob. I know that you feel you must do it by a certain formula. I see the end result as being the valued part-not neccesarily doing it by a set path. The end justifies the means? If I get someone to 'love me' by pretending to be something I'm not, that's ok? No thanks. It's not whether you win or lose, but how you play the game. If being myself makes me unworthy of someone's love, they were never the right person for me, nor I for them, and we never will be. For someone I am exactly what she needs, as she is for me. She is worth whatever life wishes to throw at me.

BLoved -> RE: A legend returns ... (2/18/2010 7:34:48 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: alicenwondrland quote: ORIGINAL: BLoved The last time I did this I was in my 30s. I am discovering it is not nearly as easy at 52 (which I will be 'celebrating' in a week). [sm=birthday.gif] ~smile~ Thank you.

juliaoceania -> RE: A legend returns ... (2/18/2010 7:36:11 PM)
I read a good deal of your profile.... Believe it or not Bob, some of us women make choices based upon strong self esteem based upon our needs and do not feel abused by our own choices... I know you believe in the victim paradigm of the world, but I just don't. I have never been a victim of anyone... What you fail to understand is that life hurts, it hurts when we love and lose, no matter how the loss comes about, but the human heart is resilient... Not everyone is so fragile that every bump in the road will derail their life.. for example, you have lost much in your life, and yet you proclaim the ability to love even after such loss.... I have been abused Bob, but not in a BDSM setting. I was abused by my vanilla exhubby. That has been about 2 decades ago, and yes I felt "damaged" for a time.. after all I was only 22 yrs old when we divorced... but thankfully I have went on to love many people.. some platonic friends, some lovers, and my family especially. I think you do a disservice to those who overcome abusive situations to label them as damaged victims forever lost... just like you wouldn't want the pain and the growth that resulted from it in your own life dismissed... I am a monogamous submissive female by choice. I choose when and how to assert my sexuality. I am a strong person. I am not a child to be condescended to or scolded. I am involved with one man. If I choose something different tomorrow or he does, we will still be friends because I love him and he loves me. Even if we decided tomorrow that we were not well suited and had too disparate of goals it wouldn't change the fondness we have toward each other. Now you can try and trash relationships that are different than your own... I could care less what you think of my choices or who I am, I am comfortable in my own skin and respect myself and my decisions.. .but when you spew this garbage that seeks to minimize the life experiences of people who have actually been abused and compare those experiences with consenting sex, well I will call bullshit on that, I have been through abuse.. I damn well know the difference.

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