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Moonhead -> Is the Force with terrorism? (2/18/2010 2:03:31 PM)

In a review of Star Wars (collected in his excellent non fiction anthology A User's Guide To The New Millenium) the late JG Ballard wonders if the fact that the rebel alliance manage to blow up the death star and bloody the Empire's nose might not be a reference to America getting kicked out of Vietnam.
It's an interesting point, and one that I haven't really seen addressed elsewhere. (THough as a rule, I can't be arsed reading any film criticism, so it's quite possibly a trope that's been done to death elsewhere.) This is a long way from the only example of a piece of American pop culture where the good guys are terrorists (The X Men and Red Dawn both spring to mind as well) but it's probably the one with the widest audience. While I don't have a lot of sympathy for the daft notion that there's a liberal media conspiracy, since the hate campaign aimed at the Dixie Chicks, the war on terror hasn't really conjured up the same sort of jingoistic fictional outpourings as occurred during the second world war.
Anybody have any thoughts on this?




domiguy -> RE: Is the Force with terrorism? (2/18/2010 2:32:10 PM)

No way. There has never been a single Vietnamese person ever alive that could bullseye womp rats in their T-16's. I am sure that you are more than aware that a single womp rat rarely exceeds a size of two meters.

Those Vietnamese were crafty and wiley little buggers but they were just not up to this kind of task.




Jeffff -> RE: Is the Force with terrorism? (2/18/2010 2:35:49 PM)

Charlie don't hunt womp rats!



Robert Duval




LadyEllen -> RE: Is the Force with terrorism? (2/18/2010 3:46:11 PM)

Star Wars' success is down to its innovation of very, very old themes drawn from myths and legends ancient and abiding. As it is possible to correlate these myths and legends to every human scenario, so it is possible to correlate Star Wars in a like manner.

In other words, JG Ballard was talking nonsense.

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AnimusRex -> RE: Is the Force with terrorism? (2/18/2010 7:00:43 PM)

Agreed-
J.G. Ballard should know better.

Every political group likes to paint itself as a scrappy insurgent force against some Evil Empire; this is why the affluent white men of the Teabbagers enjoy posturing as oppressed victims of an Evil Government.

What political group would rally the troops by comparing itself to the Evil Empire, and the leader to Darth Vader?

Dick Cheney excepted, of course.




Moonhead -> RE: Is the Force with terrorism? (2/19/2010 3:53:06 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: AnimusRex
Dick Cheney excepted, of course.

I think he styled himself more on Emperor Palpatine.
Ellen does make a very good point though, as usual.




Moonhead -> RE: Is the Force with terrorism? (2/19/2010 3:54:18 AM)

(Though I would say that Lucas drew just as much from Jack Kirby as he did from the old stories or Japanese samurai films.)




pahunkboy -> RE: Is the Force with terrorism? (2/19/2010 6:24:16 AM)

depends which law you want to break.




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