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ORIGINAL: LadyNTrainer
So where do you draw the line? I'm not so sure it's a black and white issue. There are genderqueer people who should be considered an inclusive part of the LGBT community in the "T" category, even though physically they may well be heterosexual. And that subject is something that has also been negated, silenced, dismissed, ignored and shoved under the rug, even by gays and lesbians.
How okay is it to dismiss transgendered people from the LGBT community? There's a lot of different flavors of transgender and genderqueer, and not all of them are obvious or involve physical transitioning. How do you decide whether an individual who is questioning their gender and rejecting what mainstream society is telling them about their gender deserves the support of the LGBT community or not?
Actually, the T issues are one of a few issues as to specifically why I do not support the NCSF. The NCSF has ignored and refused to pick up on the sexual right issues of the T-community, simply stating that T issues aren't part of their overall mission and making sure that their mission statement reflects that.
I fully believe that those dealing with gender identity issues should have the support of the gay and lesbian communities. Their struggles mirror our own and together we face the same severity of issues. I don't think my objection to het, male, s-types using the word "boi" equates to not supporting T issues.
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ORIGINAL: Wolf2Bear
I see your point yet I still wonder over the fact that for so many years, many in the GLBT community strive to erase the negative association the word "queer" that now it's part of the mainstream language- so in a way we have achieved that and now it's a matter of teaching them the correct context of using that term.
I am still amazed how the rally cry of the gay community wanting equality yet still insist that we still fight to retain distance from everyone else when it comes to terminology. Most terminology that were once derogatory aren't and we still retain some specific terms that will always be unique to our community-both gay men and lesbians.
What we, as a community, are being faced with is a demand for hetero-normative behavior to be accepted into "mainstream" society. Mark Frazier had an amazing keynote speech this weekend at SPLF that could easily tie into Ms. Twisted's workshop "Pansexual: Is it time to reconsider?" The idea is very simple: Why do we, the one's who's non-conformity is what makes us unique, have to loose our identities in an effort to gain respect, acceptance, and equality in this society? What's the point then? To me, demanding that we, as a community, conform is equates to being told "We'll treat you equally the minute you start behaving like a straight woman." And I refuse to settle.
"The next time someone tells you how to do what you want, who to do that with, and when to do that....tell them this: 'Fuck you.'"-Mark Frazier
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ORIGINAL: LaTigresse
I am just one of those people that don't care about purity of words and their meanings. I've always struggled to understand why people get so possessive and defensive about how words are used.
Perhaps I see things too conceptually for it to matter to me. I am okay with not having words to define the specifics in many cases, or in having words evolve and/or mean different things. Yet I do understand the need for some definition, after all without language.....we'd be rather screwed.
For whatever reason, when people get all bent over someone miss using a word they identify with.........I just sit back and think "Really??? All of that drama over a WORD?" But again, that is just me. I also do not place the important some do on family names or job titles.
For me, words are such a large percentage of how we communicate with one another, to not make sure that I am absolutely as clear as I can be, is just laziness and the beginning of the deterioration of clear communication with other individuals. To standby silently while words become diluted in meaning, simple is my consent to and participation in that deterioration.
After all, we communicate our concepts of life and reality and our experiences through words. If our words start to fall apart because we allow the meaning behind them to become diluted, then it's gonna get harder and harder to communicate those concepts.
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