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RE: Yet another music thread - 2/25/2010 8:11:41 AM   
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that was BRILLIANT!!!  LMAO!! "bigger, wider consonants..."

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RE: Yet another music thread - 2/25/2010 8:14:01 AM   
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haha, see, some of it's good lol

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RE: Yet another music thread - 2/25/2010 8:14:50 AM   
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Iknow that, Pyro.. I am not saying it ISNT.. just that most of it is beyond me.  It must be my advanced age

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RE: Yet another music thread - 2/25/2010 8:23:01 AM   
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haha, ok, let me rephrase that..

see, you can enjoy some of it


and I wouldn't say it's your age, it's the fact that it has "smaller consonants" lol

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RE: Yet another music thread - 2/25/2010 8:26:31 AM   
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*snort*

(smartass)

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RE: Yet another music thread - 2/25/2010 9:38:09 AM   
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Who said anything bout the American Dollar not being worthless either lol
Good point!

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RE: Yet another music thread - 2/25/2010 4:24:30 PM   
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This is more along my interest........
http://www.heavymtl.com/splash.php


Can't wait!!!!


Mine too; that's gonna be a great show.

Lamb of God - Ruin http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VX-iB5GP-m4

Testament - More Than Meets the Eye http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09rHDabBQfA

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RE: Yet another music thread - 2/25/2010 4:25:29 PM   
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ORIGINAL: GreedyTop

I listen to many kinds of music, some with more pleasure than others. Rap/hip-hip stuff I dont really GET. WHat would LInkin Park be classed as? I like them....


Think of it this way..
In each genre, the lead singer's voice imitates the most important intstrument. In metal, the singer wails just like a lead guitar. In Jazz , the singer croons like a saxophone. In opera, the fat lady's voice is high and powerful, perhaps like a violin.

In hip-hop, the most important instrument is the drum. Therefore, the value is in the rhythm of the rapper's voice, as opposed to the tone. The reason say, Eminem is so popular is not because he can make two sentences that rhyme at the end, but because of the complex cadence of his rhymes. This is the reason that people from other countries love rap music, even though they often don't understand english.

Linkin Park is essentially doing the same thing, just with a different spin. When many people say "I don't like rap" what they're saying is that they don't like culture and aesthetic that surrounds it.


GOOD hip-hop? Let's see...

Schaffer the Dark Lord:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=clcZah3P4cs

Talib Kweli
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UVtpXvzzXiA

Chamillionaire (he's the artist the Weird Al parodied in White and Nerdy)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CGOt8dZRsHk


And most of ICP does indeed suck, but in 15 + albums, they have maybe 20 songs that are actually good.

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RE: Yet another music thread - 2/25/2010 9:25:06 PM   
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When many people say "I don't like rap" what they're saying is that they don't like culture and aesthetic that surrounds it.
No, when I say I don't like rap I mean I don't like Rap...it has nothing to do with the culture or aesthetic that surrounds it. I don't like it period. I hear very little difference between one artist and another, and even less difference between songs by any given artist, it all sounds pretty much the same to me.
The lyrics are often good when read as poetry, but I just don't like the way it is presented. It isn't about racism or cultural elitism, its just a matter of taste.


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RE: Yet another music thread - 2/25/2010 10:49:13 PM   
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When many people say "I don't like rap" what they're saying is that they don't like culture and aesthetic that surrounds it.
No, when I say I don't like rap I mean I don't like Rap...it has nothing to do with the culture or aesthetic that surrounds it. I don't like it period. I hear very little difference between one artist and another, and even less difference between songs by any given artist, it all sounds pretty much the same to me.
The lyrics are often good when read as poetry, but I just don't like the way it is presented. It isn't about racism or cultural elitism, its just a matter of taste.



Hmm.. I'm not sure why you thought my statement was in any way a reference to you.  Some people just don't like stuff. I don't like Mayonnaise. You can't convince someone to like the taste of a food they don't like. Maybe in your case it's the same, except with hip-hop.

If anything, what prompted that post was the earlier post about not understanding rap but liking Linkin Park.  Not that I'm calling him a racist or an elitist either, my point is just that in the case of Linkin Park for example, while much of the external package is different, the core elements of rap music are the same.

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RE: Yet another music thread - 2/25/2010 10:49:46 PM   
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i haven't really dipped into those genres of music much.  i do like The Coup and Missy Elliott though.  

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RE: Yet another music thread - 2/25/2010 10:59:27 PM   
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I dip into everything. If my playlist could talk the first words out of its mouth would be Nomen mihi legio est, quia multi sumus

Though I do have my favorites. Mostly those fall into the goth/punk/industrial/techno areas.


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RE: Yet another music thread - 2/25/2010 11:23:31 PM   
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Thanks, Violet :)  I'll check those links a bit later.  Although, I tend to agree with Arpig as to reasons why I *GENERALLY* don't much care for rap (I do like Eminem though...).



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RE: Yet another music thread - 2/26/2010 1:11:01 AM   
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quote:

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When many people say "I don't like rap" what they're saying is that they don't like culture and aesthetic that surrounds it.
No, when I say I don't like rap I mean I don't like Rap...it has nothing to do with the culture or aesthetic that surrounds it. I don't like it period. I hear very little difference between one artist and another, and even less difference between songs by any given artist, it all sounds pretty much the same to me.
The lyrics are often good when read as poetry, but I just don't like the way it is presented. It isn't about racism or cultural elitism, its just a matter of taste.



Haha, it's more of an observation of what you find "familiar", your momtha might have been the worst cook in the world, but it'd be hard to tell cause momah's cook'n is still "holy" to any child, cause it's what's familiar.

that's what most cultures variation boil down too lol, who or what you're comfortable with lol

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I dip into everything. If my playlist could talk the first words out of its mouth would be Nomen mihi legio est, quia multi sumus

Though I do have my favorites. Mostly those fall into the goth/punk/industrial/techno areas.


Might ya be a units fan lol?
(think hardcore devo)


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quote:

ORIGINAL: GreedyTop

I listen to many kinds of music, some with more pleasure than others. Rap/hip-hip stuff I dont really GET. WHat would LInkin Park be classed as? I like them....


Think of it this way..
In each genre, the lead singer's voice imitates the most important intstrument. In metal, the singer wails just like a lead guitar. In Jazz , the singer croons like a saxophone. In opera, the fat lady's voice is high and powerful, perhaps like a violin.

In hip-hop, the most important instrument is the drum. Therefore, the value is in the rhythm of the rapper's voice, as opposed to the tone. The reason say, Eminem is so popular is not because he can make two sentences that rhyme at the end, but because of the complex cadence of his rhymes. This is the reason that people from other countries love rap music, even though they often don't understand english.

Linkin Park is essentially doing the same thing, just with a different spin. When many people say "I don't like rap" what they're saying is that they don't like culture and aesthetic that surrounds it.


GOOD hip-hop? Let's see...

Schaffer the Dark Lord:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=clcZah3P4cs

Talib Kweli
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UVtpXvzzXiA

Chamillionaire (he's the artist the Weird Al parodied in White and Nerdy)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CGOt8dZRsHk


And most of ICP does indeed suck, but in 15 + albums, they have maybe 20 songs that are actually good.


Never heard it put quiet like that, but now that you mention it, i kinda see a correlation to most "rappers" phonetical pacing to be a bit drum and bassy(not going to mention the genre of drum and bass...not enough cough syrup or other intoxicants to discuss that eh..."music")

and speaking of "white and nerdy", that schaffer the dark lord is hilariously 'nerdcore', but i think Bo burnam has him beat on word play





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RE: Yet another music thread - 2/26/2010 1:16:45 AM   
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Ah laks furrinerz.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=doTBT46wMvA&feature=related

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RE: Yet another music thread - 2/26/2010 1:18:27 AM   
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haha, sure,have a million points.the points are like canadian money, worthless lol


aw come on, there was some shit bump'n back then too thou*I'll find a link to put here tomorrow*

besides, clicky on some of the linkies above and you may find something new that you like lol





ok, here's some gawd awful 80's...eh....rap?

and some earlier hip-hop "ancestral" reggae
*warning above link contains the lyrical equivalent to a three minute drum solo

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RE: Yet another music thread - 10/5/2010 1:28:50 PM   
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Bump, cause you know you gotta bump and grind every time and again

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RE: Yet another music thread - 10/5/2010 1:57:17 PM   
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this thread is doomed to die from the get go,here...isn't it?

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RE: Yet another music thread - 10/5/2010 4:35:58 PM   
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RE: Yet another music thread - 10/5/2010 4:41:15 PM   
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