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Mercnbeth -> RE: Questions for the irreligious here; do you believe in anything greater than yourself? (3/1/2010 5:52:23 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Musicmystery quote: Steven, it's just another chorus of his Mercland climate change as religion chant. It's the only tune he knows, so he felt the need to insert it here, completely off topic. Did that help it grow? The topic is religion. Confident about your own, you shouldn't be offended when your alter is used as an example. But you wouldn't relate to that condition would you?

Musicmystery -> RE: Questions for the irreligious here; do you believe in anything greater than yourself? (3/1/2010 6:10:37 PM)
Still working on the Straw Man concept, huh? They aren't better when you make them erotic, you know--still a fallacy. btw, does that grade school shit work on ANYONE you know?

takemeforyourown -> RE: Questions for the irreligious here; do you believe in anything greater than yourself? (3/1/2010 8:31:04 PM)
I've struggled with religion all my life, but I have come to believe that there is a God out there, somewhere, who created us. Whether He participates actively in our lives, I don't know. But I love Him.

MasterCharles099 -> RE: Questions for the irreligious here; do you believe in anything greater than yourself? (3/1/2010 8:34:02 PM)
yes

Smutmonger -> RE: Questions for the irreligious here; do you believe in anything greater than yourself? (3/1/2010 8:50:22 PM)
I beleive in the ultimate power of chaos and death. These are neither benign or malignant-merely realities. Fanciful man created anthropomorphic entites? Not so much so. I have already accepted the fact of my eventual lack of cognitive existence.

belladevine -> RE: Questions for the irreligious here; do you believe in anything greater than yourself? (3/1/2010 8:55:24 PM)
I believe in myself and the power of intellect. Mother Nature Rules. Ur Gods are the works of men and all fall down when Nature calls.

Mercnbeth -> RE: Questions for the irreligious here; do you believe in anything greater than yourself? (3/2/2010 7:40:14 AM)
quote: Still working on the Straw Man concept, huh? Since it's a strawman, tell me how 'global warming' differs from any other religion? It has it's assumed 'miracles' (you know when reality doesn't represent dogma), messiah, and 'commandments'. They gather to pray, condemn dissension as heretic, and (your personal favorite) they employ juvenile name calling when called on their 'science'. The religious global warmers refuse to employ scientific method. Their 'Book of Revelations' can't explain, and can't model, prior documented occurrences of prior climate changes. Not that there is anything wrong with having faith in anything. Humanity has a need to belief in a greater power. Having evolved from worshiping the moon and the sun, they created a higher power, a 'creator'. Sometimes benevolent, sometimes cruel, their god fit into society to explain the unexplainable. So is it with global warming. Meeting another basic religious requirement - leaders exploiting and personally benefiting from the 'faithful'. We're not talking about environmentalism. I guess the religious comparison would be they believe in "some greater power"; they recycle, use 'environmentally friendly' products, and buy high MPG cars; however they do not belong to any organized group, or going to 'church' regularly, and every so often they put a soda can in with the regular garbage. A 'mortal' sin for the fanatical global warming followers; directly contributing to the demise of an acre of Brazilian rain-forest. That belief takes faith. Global warming is clearly not science; what's left is religion. The believers are no different than any other organized faith backed group. quote: btw, does that grade school shit work on ANYONE you know? I don't employ it MM; I leave the inablity to make an argument and reponding with attempted insult and name calling to you. I indentify it for what it is, in my opinion.

mnottertail -> RE: Questions for the irreligious here; do you believe in anything greater than yourself? (3/2/2010 7:42:23 AM)
And some of us simply wipe our ass when we take a shit, even though we know it is gonna get dirty again, Merc. Nothing religious or dogmatic in it, at its core, it is a matter of self respect. Ron

Mercnbeth -> RE: Questions for the irreligious here; do you believe in anything greater than yourself? (3/2/2010 7:45:06 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: mnottertail And some of us simply wipe our ass when we take a shit, even though we know it is gonna get dirty again, Merc. Nothing religious or dogmatic in it, at its core, it is a matter of self respect. Ron Agreed Ron, wiping your ass isn't a religious experience; although the producing the product has been a cathartic purging experience at times.

Bodhisatva -> RE: Questions for the irreligious here; do you believe in anything greater than yourself? (3/2/2010 10:50:23 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Brain HE'S A NAZI!, Hitler and Christianity Written by Selwyn Duke Sunday, 08 June 2008 18:15 Long ago, during the darkest chapter of the 20th century, a movie was released entitled Hitler’s Children. Are you trying to say the jewish holocaust was the darkest chapter in the 20th century?

Bodhisatva -> RE: Questions for the irreligious here; do you believe in anything greater than yourself? (3/2/2010 10:52:19 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Mercnbeth quote: Still working on the Straw Man concept, huh? Since it's a strawman, tell me how 'global warming' differs from any other religion? It has it's assumed 'miracles' (you know when reality doesn't represent dogma), messiah, and 'commandments'. They gather to pray, condemn dissension as heretic, and (your personal favorite) they employ juvenile name calling when called on their 'science'. The religious global warmers refuse to employ scientific method. Their 'Book of Revelations' can't explain, and can't model, prior documented occurrences of prior climate changes. Not that there is anything wrong with having faith in anything. Humanity has a need to belief in a greater power. Having evolved from worshiping the moon and the sun, they created a higher power, a 'creator'. Sometimes benevolent, sometimes cruel, their god fit into society to explain the unexplainable. So is it with global warming. Meeting another basic religious requirement - leaders exploiting and personally benefiting from the 'faithful'. We're not talking about environmentalism. I guess the religious comparison would be they believe in "some greater power"; they recycle, use 'environmentally friendly' products, and buy high MPG cars; however they do not belong to any organized group, or going to 'church' regularly, and every so often they put a soda can in with the regular garbage. A 'mortal' sin for the fanatical global warming followers; directly contributing to the demise of an acre of Brazilian rain-forest. That belief takes faith. Global warming is clearly not science; what's left is religion. The believers are no different than any other organized faith backed group. quote: btw, does that grade school shit work on ANYONE you know? I don't employ it MM; I leave the inablity to make an argument and reponding with attempted insult and name calling to you. I indentify it for what it is, in my opinion. Global warming is not, in any way, comparible to religious dogma. For one thing, global warming actually exists.

Smutmonger -> RE: Questions for the irreligious here; do you believe in anything greater than yourself? (3/2/2010 11:00:08 AM)
FR...I never liked the idea of kissing some "higher entities" ass to get into a happy afterlife. That concept alone cued me to the man made nature of "gods and goddesses"

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