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MsMillgrove -> RE: The Paper Trip ... (2/27/2010 6:19:13 PM)

I am going to take you completely seriously and ask the questions I would if we were acquainted.

1. Why is your "former mistress" former? You're at this site because she commanded you and gave you the name. Where is she in this mix now... Why doesn't she give you good advice. She backs this plan of yours? What's the story on your past relationships--why didn't they keep you. Why will a new mistress who doesn't speak English as a first language want someone like you? What are you offering this lady?
your money only? What else.

2. Why not consider putting your "fortune" that you sacrificed your life for into a trust that your lawyer controls. Which can be broken if you want to run away. That way.. you can provide the new mistress with a monthly stipend to cover your care and to thank her for taking you in.
But you will have the option then, if she dies, which sadly happens, to retain your own money and not see it go off to one of her relatives etc..

And this is just my personal opinion, but I think that maybe with the way the economy is right now, that this Daddy bux concept, is likely to be more history than future. I suspect you really don't have that much to offer to this new mistress--a full slave is a HUGE responsbility.. and requires so much out of the Dominant. I would feel much better about your plan if you had included more information that showed you are caring and responsbile and capable of being an outstanding slave.

Since you asked for our opinion on your plan--that's mine--and I'd like to hear your reply to the questions above.



Cuckdaddy66 -> RE: The Paper Trip ... (2/27/2010 7:29:14 PM)

My former Mistress moved to the west coast (i am east coast) for Her new career, which also left no time for D/s. Mistress was more of a Pro-Domme' any way. Mistress believed that this site would introduce me to a new Mistress. My former Mistress moved on to Her new life. Almost 1 year has passed and we have not corresponded since last August. Mistress wanted me to move on. She does not know of my profile editing. My past relationships have been either vanilla (yuck) or with Mistress's on clips4sale and various other commercial sites. i have almost always been a "video slave" in my D/s relationships. i grew tired of not being "collared" and wanted to experience the other aspects of D/s, like serving and brain-washing. i can always go back to the studios and make more videos,pretending to be a slave,but that's as close as i have gotten. i am too qualified and "used goods" as one Mistress put it. i have experienced Pain,CBT,Chastity,Cuckolding,Sissification,Objectivication,Forced-BI - everything,but actually wearing a real collar and feeling"owned".

Hopefully, my future foreign Mistress will speak some English , but i may never learn Her language. This would keep me in the dark as to where i am at and what the future holds. Also, this would be a real slave's experience. This would be for real ! i offer Mistress whatever She wants. Sure, money , but also i can cook,clean,totally run a household as well as home and auto repair. My career is in electronics so i am able to fix,install,maintain any thing electrical or electronic. i am very proficient in computer and web design. i give an awesome massage and i do pedicures and hair coloring as well. i offer my submission which would be irreversible.

The trust fund is a great idea, thank you Mistress ! i never considered it because i have always believed in everything being Mistress's way.

As for showing that i am caring and responsbile and capable of being an outstanding slave this would all be proved during the first few months of correspondence by using assignments . i am for real and looking forward to proving myself !



LdyyR -> RE: The Paper Trip ... (2/27/2010 7:46:36 PM)

Let me see if I understand. For a few months, you want to correspond via emails, be ordered around via the net, you want to perform whatever said Mistress request of you via webcam? This will be how you prove your worth and how you come to get to know if the two of you will be compatible? I may have misunderstood, so maybe, I'll read this thing from the top one more time.



SweetDommes -> RE: The Paper Trip ... (2/27/2010 10:21:17 PM)

Fast reply here ... to me, the title says it all. It's only really possible on paper - move it to reality and it goes to shit.

I wouldn't want anyone in my house like you, OP. You want what you want, fine ... but to tell me that because I want something different that I'm not really a Domme??? to hell with you. There is no such thing as the "one true way" and for you to blast those of us who do have or want to have some romance and love in our D/s relationships as being fake or not real or however you put it ... no, that doesn't fly. At least we don't run as great a risk of being found in a ditch somewhere.

In addition, I wouldn't trust anyone who didn't actually care about me to care for me and my property. "Slave" or not, if you don't care about the person you're doing the job for, then you won't do as good of a job. In the scenario you've laid out, there is obviously no room for true caring and affection. That may be why you are having trouble finding someone. You have a "my way is the only right way" attitude (even if you don't actually feel that way - you certainly come across that way) and what you want isn't all that common.



dreamerdreaming -> RE: The Paper Trip ... (2/27/2010 10:53:13 PM)

He's the anti- BLoved.

[8|]



SweetDommes -> RE: The Paper Trip ... (2/27/2010 11:02:52 PM)

You just had to go and drag that troll's name into this ... shame on you [sm=shame.gif]



dreamerdreaming -> RE: The Paper Trip ... (2/27/2010 11:46:51 PM)

I'm a bad seed.

Right now I've had the big screen TV, surround sound stereo, comfy bed, throw rugs, kitchenette, computer, all the bookshelves and books, etc. all taken out of the basement... Leaving nothing but the bare concrete floor, chains and torture racks, the cage in the corner, the taser, blowtorch, chainsaw, wood chipper, and the vats of acid.

Yep. Its almost ready for him. [sm=angel.gif]



Politesub53 -> RE: The Paper Trip ... (2/28/2010 1:35:11 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Cuckdaddy66

hmm... sounds like a poorly disguised persona ad

well, i already have my personal ad posted on here (in the Profile section) i am not trying to repeat it. Just asking if this plan is fool proof. Unlike most of the D/s community i do not want to be able to back out of service to my Mistress. i do not want the option to say "i quit". This would be true slavery. i have experienced cuckolding (and found it very powerful) SUBSPACE. My plan would be the final frontier, not a fantasy.


Fool proof, its more like foolish. Yes it makes a nice fantasy, but its hardly reality based is it ?  As has been said, what do you do if it all goes wrong ?



IKaiya -> RE: The Paper Trip ... (2/28/2010 1:54:23 AM)

@OP:
I know of one man who did what you want to do,  he is now homeless in a foreign country.

Why would you want to take such a huge risk with your life? Use your brain and find a less dangerous option that comes close to your fantasy.

Kaiya



MsMillgrove -> RE: The Paper Trip ... (2/28/2010 10:31:13 AM)

Obedience. What is required as a slave. You have always been a "video" slave to prodommes, never met a lifestyler face-to-face.
Your online mistress told you to come here, and she hasn't seen this profile. She wanted you to meet real people. Not to come up with some truly assinine plan which sounds good only as second class erotic writing.

Why not learn how to be a slave, by obeying your former mistress' directive? Get into real life as she told you to, meet some lifestyler dommes, see how you can be of service to them.

What if I told you the following... I've never had a lesson in real time with a piano teacher, I'm self-taught at home on a keyboard without any sound....I have a plan to sell-out Carnegie Hall....I'll use all my money to book the hall for my piano recital. Then I'll be a sensation in the world of classical music. What would you say? You'd think I was crazy. What you're suggesting to the rest of us is just as bizarre.



SylvereApLeanan -> RE: The Paper Trip ... (2/28/2010 4:13:36 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Cuckdaddy66

Mistress was more of a Pro-Domme' any way.

My past relationships have been either vanilla (yuck) or with Mistress's on clips4sale and various other commercial sites. i have almost always been a "video slave" in my D/s relationships.

i can always go back to the studios and make more videos,pretending to be a slave,but that's as close as i have gotten.


This explains SO much.  Hard to have a realistic expectation when you've been living in a porn fantasy your whole submissive life.  At this point, I strongly recommend you turn off your computer and find a kink group in your local area.  Go to a munch.  Get out and meet real people who are living real lives in D/s relationships.  I have a feeling you'll be surprised by what you learn.



QueenRah -> RE: The Paper Trip ... (3/3/2010 2:54:31 PM)

Fast Reply:

cd66, North Carolina is about as foreign a country as you can get, in the US of A. Rules of modern civilization do not apply. Why don't you come on down? I have a nice closet with a cold, stone floor in which you can stay, when I'm not using you. It's only 200 miles from your current location, but a world away.

QR



SurrenderForMe -> RE: The Paper Trip ... (3/4/2010 12:16:49 AM)

Try using a power of attorney, it is more logical and allows for common sense eventualities such as listed below. 
Keep the identification, you need it for medical care, driving your owner around, retirement income, etc.
Make sure that those possessions you sell are enough to provide for your care and upkeep for your expected lifetime.  Add a tip for the dominant. lol.
Do not whine when you find out that someone takes you seriously and does what you ask.  Using you completely will take all your will and commitment. 
Whether you acknowledge it to yourself or not, with the exception of real slavery, this is always voluntary.  A real slave is used, used up and discarded.  The use is not pretty, not pleasant and not personal.  That final piece can and will destroy the human.





Wickad -> RE: The Paper Trip ... (3/4/2010 11:43:50 AM)

(fast reply)

I think the OP's idea is absolutely great!!!

I wish him all the success and as speedy a connection as possible!!

I think that we should all help him to find is out-of-country abuser as fast as possible so that he can quit having access to the internet and this board!

Wickad



Wheldrake -> RE: The Paper Trip ... (3/7/2010 11:54:57 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Cuckdaddy66

hmm... sounds like a poorly disguised persona ad

well, i already have my personal ad posted on here (in the Profile section) i am not trying to repeat it. Just asking if this plan is fool proof. Unlike most of the D/s community i do not want to be able to back out of service to my Mistress. i do not want the option to say "i quit". This would be true slavery. i have experienced cuckolding (and found it very powerful) SUBSPACE. My plan would be the final frontier, not a fantasy.


No, not fool proof. As an expat who lives in one Asian country, and belongs to a Mistress located in another, I have a few thoughts.

Others have talked about the risks, so I won't belabour the point. How much would you really know about your prospective Mistress before getting on the plane? No matter how good things seem on the basis of phone and internet contact, there will always be some possibility that she's not the woman you think she is (or even, perhaps, not a woman at all). Or she could get cancer and drop dead six months after you arrive, leaving you stranded - and there are lots of other ways it could all go wrong.

Also, the option to say "I quit" would always exist in some form. Even outside Europe and North America, you usually have to go some way off the beaten track before it becomes genuinely difficult to find someone who speaks English and might be able and willing to help an escaped foreign slave. And a woman in a foreign country who was online, spoke enough English to get to know you, and was interested in BDSM would be unlikely to live too far off the beaten track in any case.

With that said, it might be possible to realise some elements of the scenario you have in mind, if you're patient and willing to stop thinking in such seemingly absolute terms. My Mistress does live a little way off the beaten track, far enough that when I visit her I wouldn't find it totally trivial to just up and leave. I don't speak much of the local language, although it happens to be in a corner of Asia where many people speak at least some English. Even so, the feeling of being a slave held captive in a foreign country accentuates my submission, and the cultural differences between Mistress and me create a sense of distance that can be very erotic in a BDSM context.

So yes, you might be able to find a foreign woman who wants to enslave you, and if you can arrange to move to her country (which will probably involve a lot of paperwork and logistics, especially if you don't have a job waiting for you there) then you will likely find yourself dependent on her to some degree. Just don't expect that degree to be absolute, and think hard about how much risk you're prepared to accept in pursuing your "final frontier".



SlaveSubtoserve -> RE: The Paper Trip ... (4/17/2010 9:54:00 PM)

The OP should get in touch with Ingrid Bellemare as life in Amsterdam would not be bad and i am sure she has friends who would fit your bill with lower risk than what you appear to be heading to.....



NakedHouseboy000 -> RE: The Paper Trip ... (4/18/2010 5:10:13 PM)

I think this is the most disturbing post I have ever read on this site...........and that is saying alot.



TNstepsout -> RE: The Paper Trip ... (4/18/2010 6:13:11 PM)

Your plan is a fantasy for many reasons.  First of all, you can't just "move" to a foreign country.  There is a lot involved and you can't just hop on a plane and go live in another country indefinitely.  Secondly you forgot the part where this fantasy Mistress would now be completely responsible for you.  Most people do not want another person they have to care for financially and take care of.

Lastly, the success of finding someone you can trust not to take you for everything you own and leave you stranded in a foreign country is a few months worth of emails and your "gut".  You should hang around these forums longer and see just how many long distance subs were dumped by the Mistress/Master of their dreams, sometimes after years of online communication, when it came time for said Mistress/Master to show up in person.

It is difficult enough when you meet someone in person to fully assess their intentions and trustworthiness, it's impossible online.

Lastly, in terms of your pic, showing yourself engaged in BDSM activities does not prove you are sincere or real.  Those activities are only a fraction of what any Mistress is actually seeking. In all honesty, it gives the opposite impression.  It tends to indicate that you think of D/s as primarily BDSM play.  If that's not the case, then you are giving the wrong impression to potential Mistresses and you should consider changing you profile images.



GraciousLady -> RE: The Paper Trip ... (4/18/2010 9:12:06 PM)

I just hate to see this 2 month old fiasco get started again.



ishyB -> RE: The Paper Trip ... (4/18/2010 9:39:26 PM)

Euhm.... did you ever consider that to move to a foreign country you need a visa.
And to get a visa, you most likely need a job which means you'd have to speak the language, and you'd have independence.
Or you'd have to marry your Mistress, which means that even with a pre-nuptial agreement; you'd legally have rights towards her.

If you are thinking of being in that "other country" illegally, you are basically asking your Mistress to break the law and put herself at risk for serious legal consequences....

Yeah, you defiantly sound like the slave every Mistress would want to have...
 



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