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RE: The Rothschilds controls the gold market! - 2/27/2010 8:55:39 PM   
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Just what rock did you crawl out from under?  Don't you know that Jesus was a Jew? 

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Israel and Islam are 2 wicked brothers from the father Abraham. They are eternal slaves in search of more holey ground to absorb the blood from their child sacrifices.



he was a rebel jew


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RE: The Rothschilds controls the gold market! - 2/27/2010 9:00:34 PM   
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The Rothschild story: A golden era ends for a secretive dynasty


This week NM Rothschild & Sons pulled out of trading in gold, the commodity that made their name in banking
By Paul Vallely

 
 
Friday, 16 April 2004 The news that the bankers Rothschild are to withdraw from the gold market, in which they have been a major player for two centuries, has been hailed as the end of an era. 
In one sense, of course, it is. This was the company that smuggled gold coins across the English Channel to finance the Duke of Wellington's advance through France to his final triumph at Waterloo over Napoleon (who, it turned out, had also borrowed money from the Rothschilds).

But in another way it marks out the continuation of an even older tradition - the ability of the family which has founded one of the world's largest private banking dynasties to sustain their secretive fortune, which industry insiders count not in billions but in trillions, and keep it within the family.

Secrecy has been a hallmark of the Rothschilds from the outset. Mayer Amschel Rothschild, the son of an itinerant money lender and goldsmith who settled in the Jewish ghetto in Frankfurt-am-Main in 1744, specialised not just in clever accounting practices but also kept secret books and subterranean vaults which he ensured were never the privy of auditor, lawyer or taxman.

As the paterfamilias became more successful he despatched four of his five sons to different European capitals to take advantage of the rise of capitalism and the growth of international trade. Nathan he sent to London, James to Paris, Saloman to Vienna, and Carl to Naples, keeping the eldest, Amschel, at home with him in Prussia. Of these the two most important proved to be London and Paris, where the two main branches of the family developed a friendly rivalry, with the English branch developing the edge in business and the French in philanthropy, the arts and winemaking. But then in 1996 Amschel Rothschild, a 41-year-old man who had lived in the flamboyant style of many of his ancestors, hanged himself in a Paris hotel room. He was the Rothschild who had been groomed to take over as head of the English arm of the dynasty.

So when the bank's chairman Sir Evelyn de Rothschild retired earlier this year the succession passed to the French side of the
family. Baron David de Rothschild, who had been running the family's Paris-based bank, inherited.

None of the Rothschild enterprises have been banks in the sense as understood by the man or woman in the street. What Mayer Rothschild founded in the 1760s was a business which grew from the humble beginning of selling rare coins to becoming the prime moneylender to greedy and spendthrift governments across Europe. One German contemporary quipped that Mayer was "the pride of Israel ... before whose money box kings and emperors humbly bow". And the novelist

Thackeray said of Nathan that he was "not king of the Jews, but the Jew of the kings". The brothers financed both sides in the Napoleonic wars and in the Austro-Prussian war too.

It has long been supposed that Nathan increased the family fortune 20-fold by speculating on the outcome of the Battle of Waterloo in 1815. The Rothschilds had a network of agents throughout Europe who, using fast boats, coded letters and carrier pigeons, got information to the family ahead of official sources. Victor Rothschild, third baron and former chairman of the London bank, N M Rothschild, always maintained that Nathan had made a killing by encouraging rumours that Wellington had lost when he knew he had won, though the historian Niall Ferguson in his magisterial history of the family recently disputed that.

Certainly, for all the family motto of Concordia, Integritas, Industria (Unity, Integrity, Industry), Nathan's ability to depress stock prices by using the network of agents to spread rumours, true or false, and then buy the stock up after people panicked, was legendary.

More significant, however, was that in the process the Rothschilds created the world of banking as we know it today. Nathan operated principally as an underwriter and speculator in the early 19th-century bond market. He and his brothers invented, or at any rate popularised, the government bond, which allowed investors, big and small, to buy bits of the debts of sovereign states by purchasing fixed-interest bearer bonds.

Governments liked this because they could use them to raise colossal sums of money. Investors liked them because they could be traded - at prices that fluctuated in relation to the performance of the issuing government - and shrewd investors could make big sums. It brought investment in railways, the industrial revolution and ventures like the Suez Canal. The Rothschilds got a cut of everything.

It was a new kind of power. "I care not what puppet is placed upon the throne of England to rule the Empire on which the sun never sets. The man who controls Britain's money supply controls the British Empire, and I control the British money supply," Nathan said. The family developed a lack of awe for the powerful and important. A pompous aristocrat one day called on Nathan who was head down at his desk. Without looking up, the banker said: "Take a chair." His caller, affronted, said: "You are speaking to the Prince of Thurn and Taxis." To which Rothschild replied: "Take two chairs." At one point he even rescued the Bank of England after a run on gold caused the collapse of 145 banks. In 1885 he was given the hereditary title of Baron Rothschild.

Many of the distinct characteristics of the family can be traced back to the will of the founder Mayer Rothschild. It stipulated that no public inventory should be made of his estate; that key positions in the House of Rothschild were to be held by family members; that the eldest son should inherit unless the rest agreed otherwise; that the family was to intermarry with first and second cousins to keep the fortune together; that anyone disputing these terms would be struck from the will. And that all this should apply in perpetuity.

In part this was about preserving not just their Jewish identity but a self-conscious position as role models for their poorer co-religionists. The Rothschilds expended much effort and money pressing for Jewish emancipation and equality across the continent.

Their Jewish solidarity was not heterogeneous. In 1938 Nathan's great-great-grandson, Victor, shocked an audience by saying that in spite of "the slow murder of 600,000 people" on the continent "we probably all agree that there is something unsatisfactory in refugees encroaching on the privacy of our country, even for relatively short periods of time." And the family split over the question of the dream of a Jewish homeland, with some members supporting the first Zionist settlement in Palestine and the Balfour declaration and others opposing it on the grounds that it would encourage anti-Semites to question the existing national identities of assimilated Jews around the rest of the world. None of which has allayed the wild fears of anti-Semites who throughout the 20th century branded the Rothschilds as part of a Jewish plot to take over the world.

The world has changed around the Rothschilds. At one point Nathan Rothschild was the richest man in Britain and probably in the world. In today's terms he was wealthier than Bill Gates. But they never gained the foothold in America they needed. The world became corporate. Private banking got left behind.

Still, the family has moved down only from fabulously rich to enormously wealthy. And they adjusted to the times. They made billions in the 1980s from Margaret Thatcher's privatisations of state-owned industries on which they advised. In France after their bank was nationalised by the Socialist president Francois Mitterrand they slowly built a new business which, under Baron David de Rothschild, has risen to the top ranks of the merger and acquisition league tables. They have pulled out of retail fund management - into which they went with much fanfare only three years back - and now they are pulling out of oil and gold in favour of the higher-margin areas of private banking and wealth management.

Do not spend too many tears. In 1997 the family's Swiss holding company increased its profits by 66 per cent. The firm is not called Rothschild Continuation for nothing.
 
Mayer Amschel Rothschild (1743-1812), Founder of the family business
Mayer, orphaned at the age of 12, was forced to make his own living with the help of the good name of his father in Frankfurt. He carved out a self-taught career as a dealer in coins and medals, branching out into state loans and trade in general commodities. He established the family name by placing a Roman eagle on a red shield (Rothschild in German) over the door of his counting house.

Mayer established one of the Rothschild firm's principles: to settle for less profit to ensure long-term business ties. A brisk market in English textiles prompted him to send one of five sons, Nathan, to England.
 
Jacob, 4th Baron Rothschild (b. 1936), Head of the English side of the family
Chairman of NM Rothschild before resigning in 1980 to run Rothschild Investment Trust. He chaired the National Heritage Memorial Fund, handing out £1.2bn of lottery grants. He restored Waddesdon Manor, right, the family pile, and chairs Yad Hanadiv, the family foundation in Israel, which donated the Knesset and Supreme Court to the state
 
David de Rothschild (b. 1942), Head of the French family
The head of the French family, David de Rothschild has escaped two catastrophes in France: he was born in New York after the Luftwaffe seized the family home in Paris and his mother fled from Nazi Europe; and, in 1981, President Mitterrand nationalised the French financial empire, Banque Rothschild. David and his cousins started afresh with PO Gestion, renamed PO Banque and thenRothschild & Cie Banque.

Seven Generations and two Centuries of Banking
1760s The orphaned Mayer Amschel Rothschild starts a coins and medals business in Frankfurt
1789 Mayer appointed an agent to William IX of Hanau
1798 Mayer's son Nathan leaves Frankfurt to become a textile and general merchant in Manchester
1812 Nathan's brother James establishes a banking house in Paris
1815 The English branch of the Rothschilds supply gold to the Duke of Wellington's campaign at Waterloo
1820 Nathan's brother settles in Vienna; his brother Carl starts a business in Naples
1836 Nathan dies
1840 NM Rothschild and Sons becomes one of the Bank of England's bullion brokers
1850s Great houses are built. Bordeaux vineyards of Mouton and Lafite are acquired
1875 Lionel de Rothschild raises finance for British stake in the Suez Canal
1887 Rothschilds funds the creation of the diamond dealers De Beers
1901 With no male heirs, the Frankfurt dynasty comes to an end
1919 NM Rothschild & Sons chair new daily fixing of the gold price
1926 The company finances the spread of the London Underground
1929 Beginning of difficult years for family. Wall Street crash; rise of Nazi Europe
1960s Rothschilds look to US; start of Rothschild Inc
1981 France nationalises the highly successful Paris House but the family refuses defeat and starts new business.
1985 Rothschilds advises on British Gas privatisation
2004 An international banking dynasty, Rothschild have 40 countries worldwide  http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/this-britain/the-rothschild-story-a-golden-era-ends-for-a-secretive-dynasty-756388.html 






now you went and did it!

You are like major on kittens shit list now!

Everyone knows that all jews are good jews and there is no such thing as a fucking jew crook!

I mean like everybody knows that.

HE pulled out of gold cuz he has it all and is in oil now.


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RE: The Rothschilds controls the gold market! - 2/27/2010 9:01:08 PM   
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Israel and Islam are 2 wicked brothers from the father Abraham.



Jacob and Esau, who are Biblically the fathers of Judaism and Islam, respectively, were in fact brothers and were sons of Abraham.  I'm not sure what you mean by :"wicked".
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They are eternal slaves in search of more holey ground to absorb the blood from their child sacrifices.


They are not slaves. 
They are not in search of holy ground.  Of all the Arab nations, only Iraq has shown any expansionist tendencies under Saddam, and that was to obtain a port to replace the one that the Shah took from him.  (Note that with petrodollars, Arabs could have bought considerable property if they were inclined toward expansion.)  Israel has sought only to make its borders secure.
The idea that Jews killed Christian babies was popular a few hundred years ago, but has not been heard of since.  To  the best of my knowledge, nobody has ever insinuated that Muslims do human sacrifices.


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RE: The Rothschilds controls the gold market! - 2/27/2010 9:13:29 PM   
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Just what rock did you crawl out from under?  Don't you know that Jesus was a Jew? 

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Israel and Islam are 2 wicked brothers from the father Abraham. They are eternal slaves in search of more holey ground to absorb the blood from their child sacrifices.



LMAO, her reply is going to be something like "no that's not true, that's a Jew conspiracy."

Some people are so arrogant that's it's just sad beyond belief.  




well what I dont understand is that when I quote anything from christ christians and even muslims smile and have their own quote to pass unto me..........but then quote from the jewish talmud and the sky falls and the jews hate me and call me hitler and all sorts of henious names!

Any idea why?

Soferim 15, Rule 10. This is the saying of Rabbi Simon ben Yohai: Tob shebe goyyim harog ("Even the best of the gentiles should all be killed").





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RE: The Rothschilds controls the gold market! - 2/27/2010 9:18:56 PM   
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2004 An international banking dynasty, Rothschild have 40 countries worldwide

anyway back to the topic, its pretty obvious when you ahve one family in control of the worlds money they can structure wars and literally do whatever they want with the world as they see fit.

look at the unbelievable amount of propaganda laid on the people through the media.  I never watch tv and when I do I am literally in shock at the level of bullshit people buy into.


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RE: The Rothschilds controls the gold market! - 2/27/2010 9:28:59 PM   
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they were worth 8 billion in the late 1800's and that was the last time they were audited.


This is where a world government is NOT an elected government.    Some of those effected- when they figure it out- will be in no position what-so-ever to do anything about it- once they decide they have no say so at all in the NWO.



wll its for profit corporations as law for all intents and purposes was abondanded in 1938 and the new era of slpit title and "public policy" was ushered in, not that there are more than 5 people who post here that even have a clue what I am talking about.

Well taking the high road here, first understand that while the Rothchilds have and do control...vast banking and industrials interests, they only acted to convince the British govt. to establish in law the Bank of England's power of the currency and legal autonomy. That's all. The Bank of England was nationalized in 1946 but with complete power of the currency, unaudited by govt., even beyond the "Official State Secrets Act."

As for the gold, I couldn't care less as long as I am not forced to give up my cash for it. Maybe our govt. will do a reverse profit-taking somehow and force us all to cash them out. Gold is nothing (only 12% industrial demand) and I don't want any. Can't eat it and it won't keep me warm at night. Gold exists typically, only on paper and only upon which to speculate. Don't be the last buyer kinkroids.

Rothchilds family total estimated worth as of 1900...$500 Billion.

BTW, I've heard about the NWO and it is and seems more progressively...very plausible, otherwise as for the 'wll its for profit corporations as law for all intents and purposes was abondanded in 1938 and the new era of slpit title and "public policy" was ushered in,"

You are correct...I haven't the slightest idea what you are talking about.

BTW, kittenSol is exasperated because we have covered this and it is very likely at this late date, that there is to the extent we'd like to...nothing we can do about it.





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RE: The Rothschilds controls the gold market! - 2/27/2010 9:40:53 PM   
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they were worth 8 billion in the late 1800's and that was the last time they were audited.


This is where a world government is NOT an elected government.    Some of those effected- when they figure it out- will be in no position what-so-ever to do anything about it- once they decide they have no say so at all in the NWO.



wll its for profit corporations as law for all intents and purposes was abondanded in 1938 and the new era of slpit title and "public policy" was ushered in, not that there are more than 5 people who post here that even have a clue what I am talking about.

Well taking the high road here, first understand that while the Rothchilds have and do control...vast banking and industrials interests, they only acted to convince the British govt. to establish in law the Bank of England's power of the currency and legal autonomy. That's all. The Bank of England was nationalized in 1946 but with complete power of the currency, unaudited by govt., even beyond the "Official State Secrets Act."

As for the gold, I couldn't care less as long as I am not forced to give up my cash for it. Maybe our govt. will do a reverse profit-taking somehow and force us all to cash them out. Gold is nothing (only 12% industrial demand) and I don't want any. Can't eat it and it won't keep me warm at night. Gold exists typically, only on paper and only upon which to speculate. Don't be the last buyer kinkroids.

Rothchilds family total estimated worth as of 1900...$500 Billion.

BTW, I've heard about the NWO and it is and seems more progressively...very plausible, otherwise as for the 'wll its for profit corporations as law for all intents and purposes was abondanded in 1938 and the new era of slpit title and "public policy" was ushered in,"

You are correct...I haven't the slightest idea what you are talking about.

BTW, kittenSol is exasperated because we have covered this and it is very likely at this late date, that there is to the extent we'd like to...nothing we can do about it.




cash for it?

if you had 1 million in "CASH" in the bank in 1933, and you paid 20% tax on the profits, and you made 6% interest on your money how much would you have in 2007 if you took it all out?

No you would not have 18 million!  LOL

You would have roughly 1/2 million bucks CASH, because inflation and taxes will eat you alive.

You need to make damn near 15% just to break even.  Now if you had gold you would have lots more than a million dollars but when you calculate it back your buying power is the same and you broke just about even.

I call it the miracles of the jewish banking system.  (its leviticus)







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RE: The Rothschilds controls the gold market! - 2/27/2010 10:01:31 PM   
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The Rothschild story: A golden era ends for a secretive dynasty


This week NM Rothschild & Sons pulled out of trading in gold, the commodity that made their name in banking
By Paul Vallely


now you went and did it!

You are like major on kittens shit list now!

Everyone knows that all jews are good jews and there is no such thing as a fucking jew crook!

I mean like everybody knows that.

HE pulled out of gold cuz he has it all and is in oil now.


Nice reading but all we find out is that the ancestors were also greedy capitalist scum. So what else is new ? Maybe they created the club and it was a big club.

But one could say it was all started by a rich Scottish loan shark..William Paterson in 1694 with the formation of the Bank of England. The Rothchilds were just good students.

BTW, would you buy any gold with this announcement ? It is foolish as it automatically reduces the price of gold. This is either the Rothchilds telling the market gold isn't going any higher and they'll cash out and take their billions in profit or, a rumor so the Rothchilds take a big hit...then they'll cash out.

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RE: The Rothschilds controls the gold market! - 2/27/2010 10:08:00 PM   
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The Rothschild story: A golden era ends for a secretive dynasty


This week NM Rothschild & Sons pulled out of trading in gold, the commodity that made their name in banking
By Paul Vallely


now you went and did it!

You are like major on kittens shit list now!

Everyone knows that all jews are good jews and there is no such thing as a fucking jew crook!

I mean like everybody knows that.

HE pulled out of gold cuz he has it all and is in oil now.


Nice reading but all we find out is that the ancestors were also greedy capitalist scum. So what else is new ? Maybe they created the club and it was a big club.

But one could say it was all started by a rich Scottish loan shark..William Paterson in 1694 with the formation of the Bank of England. The Rothchilds were just good students.

BTW, would you buy any gold with this announcement ? It is foolish as it automatically reduces the price of gold. This is either the Rothchilds telling the market gold isn't going any higher and they'll cash out and take their billions in profit or, a rumor so the Rothchilds take a big hit...then they'll cash out.



never happen!

no one in their right mond would trade metal for paper with a number on it that changes before the ink dries.





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RE: The Rothschilds controls the gold market! - 2/27/2010 10:20:48 PM   
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cash for it?

if you had 1 million in "CASH" in the bank in 1933, and you paid 20% tax on the profits, and you made 6% interest on your money how much would you have in 2007 if you took it all out?

No you would not have 18 million!  LOL

You would have roughly 1/2 million bucks CASH, because inflation and taxes will eat you alive.

You need to make damn near 15% just to break even.  Now if you had gold you would have lots more than a million dollars but when you calculate it back your buying power is the same and you broke just about even.

I call it the miracles of the jewish banking system.  (its leviticus)

RO, history kinda messes with ya here. I understand the concept but two very large problems.

First, if anyone had a million dollars in the bank as of 3/33, it was almost assuredly gone...FDR closed the banks. Most never reopened. If one had a million dollars in cash in 1933, he wouldn't part with it at all except to bottom-feed broke banks and businesses.

Second, 4/33 by exec. order, FDR ordered all gold sold to the govt. for I believe it was $40-$42/oz. So your comparisons are off to real bad start.

Furthermore, to expect even the most patient of investors to sit on a commodity with the history of gold, for generations...is not plausible.

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RE: The Rothschilds controls the gold market! - 2/27/2010 10:29:25 PM   
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now you went and did it!

You are like major on kittens shit list now!

Everyone knows that all jews are good jews and there is no such thing as a fucking jew crook!

I mean like everybody knows that.

HE pulled out of gold cuz he has it all and is in oil now.


Nice reading but all we find out is that the ancestors were also greedy capitalist scum. So what else is new ? Maybe they created the club and it was a big club.

But one could say it was all started by a rich Scottish loan shark..William Paterson in 1694 with the formation of the Bank of England. The Rothchilds were just good students.

BTW, would you buy any gold with this announcement ? It is foolish as it automatically reduces the price of gold. This is either the Rothchilds telling the market gold isn't going any higher and they'll cash out and take their billions in profit or, a rumor so the Rothchilds take a big hit...then they'll cash out.

never happen!

no one in their right mond would trade metal for paper with a number on it that changes before the ink dries.

Well the value of that metal is also changing and the 'value' of the currency is only in comparison to other currencies. They are both commodities...subject arbitrage.

Without any real inflation in the US currently, dollars are remaining a strong reserve currency. So it is a matter of giving up something with which you can pay your mortgage (cash) and buy your food, for something you can't.

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RE: The Rothschilds controls the gold market! - 2/27/2010 10:30:34 PM   
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cash for it?

if you had 1 million in "CASH" in the bank in 1933, and you paid 20% tax on the profits, and you made 6% interest on your money how much would you have in 2007 if you took it all out?

No you would not have 18 million!  LOL

You would have roughly 1/2 million bucks CASH, because inflation and taxes will eat you alive.

You need to make damn near 15% just to break even.  Now if you had gold you would have lots more than a million dollars but when you calculate it back your buying power is the same and you broke just about even.

I call it the miracles of the jewish banking system.  (its leviticus)

RO, history kinda messes with ya here. I understand the concept but two very large problems.

First, if anyone had a million dollars in the bank as of 3/33, it was almost assuredly gone...FDR closed the banks. Most never reopened. If one had a million dollars in cash in 1933, he wouldn't part with it at all except to bottom-feed broke banks and businesses.

Second, 4/33 by exec. order, FDR ordered all gold sold to the govt. for I believe it was $40-$42/oz. So your comparisons are off to real bad start.

Furthermore, to expect even the most patient of investors to sit on a commodity with the history of gold, for generations...is not plausible.



well that skirts my whole point I made which applies today.
If you put 1mil in the bank
collect 6% interest
pay 20% tax on profit
take it out 72 years later you have about 1/2 million bucks left

that is paper money

if you had gold you still have at a minimum 1 million.

this wasnt about what went on in banking or government it was about money basics.  nothing more.



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RE: The Rothschilds controls the gold market! - 2/27/2010 10:36:57 PM   
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Well the value of that metal is also changing and the 'value' of the currency is only in comparison to other currencies. They are both commodities...subject arbitrage.

Without any real inflation in the US currently, dollars are remaining a strong reserve currency. So it is a matter of giving up something with which you can pay your mortgage (cash) and buy your food, for something you can't.



well I di,nt run the "exact" numbers on that one but 1 oz of gold today should buy you pretty close to the same amount of goods it did 100 years ago.

negotiable instruments fluctuate all over the map, which is to say that gold does not go up as a result of paper, paper goes down as a result of supply thuse that ounce of gold requires more of the paper to acquire it.



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RE: The Rothschilds controls the gold market! - 2/28/2010 6:26:40 AM   
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The ethnicity is not the purpose of the thread.

rigging of the gold market is.

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RE: The Rothschilds controls the gold market! - 2/28/2010 7:51:38 AM   
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Jesus, you two.  Get a room!



A room?

Hell no.   Guys like us will be buying prime real estate for pennies on the dollar.  You can count on it.  Only gold and silver is money.   Anything else is a "promise", and with counter party risk.

So we wont need a room.  We are about to OWN your town.  You can count on it.

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RE: The Rothschilds controls the gold market! - 2/28/2010 7:57:54 AM   
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but then quote from the jewish talmud and the sky falls and the jews hate me and call me hitler and all sorts of henious names!

Any idea why?


It's because you're a fucking revisionist neo-Nazi piece of shit, I think.

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RE: The Rothschilds controls the gold market! - 2/28/2010 8:01:29 AM   
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It is not too late to repent.

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RE: The Rothschilds controls the gold market! - 2/28/2010 8:07:21 AM   
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cash for it?

if you had 1 million in "CASH" in the bank in 1933, and you paid 20% tax on the profits, and you made 6% interest on your money how much would you have in 2007 if you took it all out?

No you would not have 18 million!  LOL

You would have roughly 1/2 million bucks CASH, because inflation and taxes will eat you alive.

You need to make damn near 15% just to break even.  Now if you had gold you would have lots more than a million dollars but when you calculate it back your buying power is the same and you broke just about even.

I call it the miracles of the jewish banking system.  (its leviticus)

RO, history kinda messes with ya here. I understand the concept but two very large problems.

First, if anyone had a million dollars in the bank as of 3/33, it was almost assuredly gone...FDR closed the banks. Most never reopened. If one had a million dollars in cash in 1933, he wouldn't part with it at all except to bottom-feed broke banks and businesses.

Second, 4/33 by exec. order, FDR ordered all gold sold to the govt. for I believe it was $40-$42/oz. So your comparisons are off to real bad start.

Furthermore, to expect even the most patient of investors to sit on a commodity with the history of gold, for generations...is not plausible.



well that skirts my whole point I made which applies today.
If you put 1mil in the bank
collect 6% interest
pay 20% tax on profit
take it out 72 years later you have about 1/2 million bucks left

that is paper money

if you had gold you still have at a minimum 1 million.

this wasnt about what went on in banking or government it was about money basics.  nothing more.




you failed math, didn't you?

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RE: The Rothschilds controls the gold market! - 2/28/2010 8:20:29 AM   
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http://thatsjustplumdumb.com/index.php/2010/01/the-u-s-personal-income-tax-it-goes-to-the-family-rothschild/

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RE: The Rothschilds controls the gold market! - 2/28/2010 8:22:39 AM   
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the Rothschilds think they can enslave each nation, abolish those nations’ constitutions, suspend the rights of the people, take over governments, and force people to pay them day in, day out and to be their slaves for the lifetimes of those under them?

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