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Real0ne -> Americas 2 party dictatorship (2/27/2010 9:53:13 PM)

so hows that change working out for ya?

Same shit different day from what I can tell.

…Dictatorships have gotten wise. It is easier to run a dictatorship when you present the public with two parties instead of one. Dictatorial Power no longer resides in just one single individual in today’s dictatorship, but within one power bloc instead. The public face of today’s dictatorship is a bureaucratic assemble of hacks, not just the face of one Supremo.


Take the current American dictatorship for an example (though Mexico’s current dictatorship is run exactly the same way, and if the American public was more familiar with Mexico would be just as illustrative as the American dictatorship itself is), where dictatorial power resides in a bureaucratic assemble of a bloc of bipartisan DP-RP hacks. We shall look at the present US government drive towards war with Russia as our example.

The public face of the American dictatorship comes in condensed form through the faces of about 6 individuals; Obama, Biden, Cheney, Bush, McCain, Lieberman (very possibly the VP selection by McCain). All have been appointed more than truly elected, and all are united in the need for the US to attack Russia. Russia confronts not El Supremo but rather a six headed hydra of global business domination centered in the US.


A modern day American dictatorship is the viper we can all see publicly, but it is multi-faced, and not that of just one Gran Prepotente (Big Shot). Unfortunately, the public has a hard time truly understanding that the face of America’ modern dictatorship is truly not much different from dictatorship’s of the past, where Mr. Power Hog ruled over all.

In the past, the dictator put on a show election, but that is still how it is done today with the multi-headed Dictator Bloc, too. The show currently is in the pageantry at Denver and St. Paul. In both cases, your vote really need not be bothered to be counted, since the selection was already made for you by raw economic power, which you have none of.

Dictatorship has always resided in ownership, and today’s multi-headed hydra dictatorship for all its apparent differences with the past is no different. The dictatorship owns all; press, soldiers, police, banks, oil, money supply, jobs, the water and air your life depends on. Rebel, and they’ll take off the shirt on your back and the pants you wear, and give you those of their own which they will now own.

Well what about our example of the American dictatorship confronting Russia? It is obvious to see for all that should look and think, that the 6 headed hydra of Obama, Biden, Cheney, Bush, McCain, Lieberman all have obtained ‘consensus’ to rule just like a one headed El Supremo style dictatorship would. They are all for using the Pentagon and NATO to attack Russia. Your vote doesn’t count in the 2 party dictatorship! It’s because the America you live in is a dictatorship. Vote if it makes you feel good but don’t be under any delusions about it.



Hell the supreme court elected dubya!
The electronic voting machines can be hacked in less than 10 seconds
Stalin: Its not the voters who count but who counts the votes!
Federal government is a corporation and they work for the same corporation so is this tough to figger out?
http://notmytribe.com/2008/your-vote-just-doesnt-count-in-the-2-party-dictatorship-84470.html



Termyn8or -> RE: Americas 2 party dictatorship (2/27/2010 11:03:21 PM)

I guess you have to tell some people EVERYTHING. Though I pretty much agree, when you start talking about mythical beasts it is counterproductive. This is on so many levels it is not funny.

When possible, leave illusion and all that bullshit to the experts. In the end we come out as true. What, are you a spy who comes among us from the FBI ? Designated to infiltrate us, make us look like a bunch of dangerous fools, like McVeigh ?

Or are you actually religious, which renders you useless to our cause ?

T



pahunkboy -> RE: Americas 2 party dictatorship (2/28/2010 6:27:59 AM)

It is very much a dictatorship.



mikeyOfGeorgia -> RE: Americas 2 party dictatorship (2/28/2010 6:34:25 AM)

and people wonder why i'm not even registered to vote. And, before anyone ridicules me for this position saying that, since i don't vote, i have no right to complain...remember what George Carlin said on the subject (and i might point out that, when he said it, nobody ridiculed him for this viewpoint)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xIraCchPDhk



Termyn8or -> RE: Americas 2 party dictatorship (2/28/2010 7:22:43 AM)

FR

Just thinking, people bitch about Chavez, Fixed elections and so forth while not looking in our own backyard. When I was a kid they would say that "Anyone can become President". They no longer say that do they ?

What if someone came up with the balls and money to offer up a viable alternative. I would expect them to somehow "shoot themself in the foot" sometime before the election. Seems something like what happened to Ross Perot.

Not wanting to make martyrs, of course they like to simply buy what they want. This is not unique nor ad hoc for the purpose of installing a US President. When my Uncle ran for union President they bought him off. A big big Man with guns, and he took the money and ran. Or didn't run that is. The only proof of this is possible that would be even close to satisfactory would be the fact that he was in the race and doing well, and all of the sudden dropped out. Property records will also reveal that right afterwards he bought a real dandy house. In fact a bunch of them. He actually moved from one near mansion because the internet was too slow. Every tme we saw him he had a different house. They must pay quite well, he was seemingly set for life. For proof, mail me for his name and there might be enough public record to prove it. Knowing him, he probably paid taxes ON A BRIBE !

We need someone untouchable. They are never going to allow that. To accomplish what they will not allow takes a hell of alot of money, guts and an impeccable record. If they don't want you in they will find out about the time when you were five years old and grabbed something somwhere - THIEF !. But if they want you in you could be a serial killer and who knows what else, and the fact of the matter is they like it that way. That's because if you betray them they have something on you.

From one of my favorite songs :

There's mud in the water,
Roach in the cellar,
Bugs in the sugar,
Mortgage on the home,
Mortgage on the home.

There's garbage on the sidewalk,
Highways in the back yard,
Police on the corner,
Mortgage on the car,
Mortgage on the car.

They're selling independence,
Actors in the White House,
Acid in digestion,
Mortgage on my life,
Mortgage on my life.

Down the road I go.
(I'm out of beer)

T



pahunkboy -> RE: Americas 2 party dictatorship (2/28/2010 7:47:05 AM)

A mans home is his castle.   Something to think about.



kdsub -> RE: Americas 2 party dictatorship (2/28/2010 7:57:08 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: mikeyOfGeorgia

and people wonder why i'm not even registered to vote. And, before anyone ridicules me for this position saying that, since i don't vote, i have no right to complain...remember what George Carlin said on the subject (and i might point out that, when he said it, nobody ridiculed him for this viewpoint)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xIraCchPDhk



Why didn't George Carlin run for office then... or you? I guess deep down you just don't care. I understand that way of thinking, just don't make it sound noble.

Butch



Real0ne -> RE: Americas 2 party dictatorship (2/28/2010 8:45:43 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: kdsub


quote:

ORIGINAL: mikeyOfGeorgia

and people wonder why i'm not even registered to vote. And, before anyone ridicules me for this position saying that, since i don't vote, i have no right to complain...remember what George Carlin said on the subject (and i might point out that, when he said it, nobody ridiculed him for this viewpoint)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xIraCchPDhk



Why didn't George Carlin run for office then... or you? I guess deep down you just don't care. I understand that way of thinking, just don't make it sound noble.

Butch



thats what you all completely fail to comprehend.

you dont join al capone to straighten out the al capone gang, you will be dead!

Same thing with the government.

The way the government is "supposed" to operate is with the militia gaurding our rights not the corporation.

Thre is so much fundamental history and law that people in this country are either ignorant of or oblivious too, but there really is a new breed on the rise and its national.

There are zillions of freedom websites and its all over the radio how to fight the thugs and many states are even founding common law grand juries who btw over rule both supreme courts.   Yeh I know you thought there was only one.

Anyway as a Sovereign you cannot join the thug club by "registering" to vote and it does not matter cuz you have the power to go around anything they do anyway.

"The meaning of 'sovereignty' is the decree of the sovereign makes law." American Banana Co. v. United Fruit Co., 29 S.Ct. 511, 513, 213

one of many decisions.......



kdsub -> RE: Americas 2 party dictatorship (2/28/2010 9:10:19 AM)

soooo what is your alternative?



tazzygirl -> RE: Americas 2 party dictatorship (2/28/2010 2:38:54 PM)

Strikes me as odd how no one was complaining about any of this before 2007.



pahunkboy -> RE: Americas 2 party dictatorship (2/28/2010 5:45:10 PM)

well the supreme court even ruled that corporations have  1st amendment rights.

I think the court is no longer relevant to humanity.



Real0ne -> RE: Americas 2 party dictatorship (2/28/2010 6:02:48 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: kdsub

soooo what is your alternative?


well my personal solution was to become sovereign.  You will study long hours and spend well over 1000 bucks in mailing fees to all the alphabet agencies that you had contracts with as a slave.

What can you do personally, well it starts with the realization that we have no judicial courts, they are all under the apa, we have no money therefore no consoideration therefore no lawful contracts, no separation of government.

All we have is one huge spiderweb of corporations and franchises including the STATE OF ILLINOIS CITY OF CHICAGO et al.

When people begin to realize they are dealing with corporations masking as government then and 0only then can they go into court effectively agasint them and start making changes,

the biggest thing I would change is to bring the grand "peoples assemblies" or the de jure grand juries back to stop this extortion from the common people.

Find even one attorney who knows that 3 notarry public panel has more power and can over rule a judge.

The law is on the side of the people the problem is they orefer to play in their little fantasy land. 

The alternative is get back to reality.



mikeyOfGeorgia -> RE: Americas 2 party dictatorship (2/28/2010 6:51:09 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: kdsub


quote:

ORIGINAL: mikeyOfGeorgia

and people wonder why i'm not even registered to vote. And, before anyone ridicules me for this position saying that, since i don't vote, i have no right to complain...remember what George Carlin said on the subject (and i might point out that, when he said it, nobody ridiculed him for this viewpoint)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xIraCchPDhk



Why didn't George Carlin run for office then... or you? I guess deep down you just don't care. I understand that way of thinking, just don't make it sound noble.

Butch

1. i can't speak for Carlin, but i suspect that the government wouldn't have allowed him to run.

2. i can't afford to run, only the rich are allowed to run (unwritten rule)



Real0ne -> RE: Americas 2 party dictatorship (2/28/2010 7:34:59 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: mikeyOfGeorgia

quote:

ORIGINAL: kdsub


quote:

ORIGINAL: mikeyOfGeorgia

and people wonder why i'm not even registered to vote. And, before anyone ridicules me for this position saying that, since i don't vote, i have no right to complain...remember what George Carlin said on the subject (and i might point out that, when he said it, nobody ridiculed him for this viewpoint)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xIraCchPDhk



Why didn't George Carlin run for office then... or you? I guess deep down you just don't care. I understand that way of thinking, just don't make it sound noble.


Butch

1. i can't speak for Carlin, but i suspect that the government wouldn't have allowed him to run.

2. i can't afford to run, only the rich are allowed to run (unwritten rule)



you can run but the deck is stacked against you unless you have brit and/or shall I say banker heritage.




mikeyOfGeorgia -> RE: Americas 2 party dictatorship (2/28/2010 7:37:46 PM)

that's why this country will continue to be a total screw-up...the poor are forced to elect the rich and the rich don't care about those without money



Real0ne -> RE: Americas 2 party dictatorship (2/28/2010 7:54:51 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: mikeyOfGeorgia

that's why this country will continue to be a total screw-up...the poor are forced to elect the rich and the rich don't care about those without money


well thats not really correct.

you can get most of the information from the net, most of it is out here.

The biggest problem isnt getting the information to make the change, the biggest problem is got people to get over the hump of wrapping their minds around the fact they have been severely lied to by implication.  Meaning they took their eye off the ball and lost site of their inheritance. 

Once a person is capable of deprogramming then the long journey and hard work begins to properly put what has been done and what needs to be done in proper perspective such that it can be made productive.

As a sovereign they dont even have jurisdiction to stop you on the street much less give you a ticket or drag you into their kangaroo admin courts, and if they do and in doing so they violate your rights, not necesarily the ones in the constitution yo simply liquidate them.

They are learning even the irs is learning how to do the business correctly.   The people liquidated them for over 400 billion before things started to change.  Money talks.  Its part of the reason they had this latest supreme court ruling to try and stay the inevitable shift to the people.  anyway I said to much and beyond that I aint saying :)

The problem is not the government as much as it is the people who dont knwo shit about it and a government who likes it that way so they put up little and sometimes large road blocks to attempt to hide the truth from you.

Study, its sad that the 14th amendment requires us all to be fucking lawyers just to know the difference between freedom and slave but thats the way it is so what can I say.  It brought me here today.





Termyn8or -> RE: Americas 2 party dictatorship (2/28/2010 9:42:08 PM)

FR

You all think Real is full of shit, but he is not. I have seen this happen. A guy walks into court and walks out after declaring "You simply do not have jurisdiction over me". Also asked to produce tax records for a PO, "There is no law saying I have to pay taxes". I have seen both. I saw a guy go sovereign while collecting a handsome private pension. I have seen it with my own eyes and have been privvy to alot more in personal settings, and in the reading of documents, that were paid for by your tax dollars.

And also right is the fact that it is not easy. You have to officially challenge every entity that claims any type of jurisdiction, and in most cases accuse them of fraud, putting them on the defensive. NOW LISTEN UP, they are the court system and are highly intertwined with LEOs, therefore you are making yourself into a big target.

Then with one little fuckup you can wind up in a place like Gitmo. This is not for everyone, at least right now. You have to study and plan, and understand your future limitations. There are certain things you can't ever do again. Enumeration on request, but let's put it this way, once holding this status, it is very hard even to open a bank account. No kidding.

Don't kid yourself, either way on the idea. This is not for the shallow pockets. And don't think you can drive on "their" roads for free. Don't think you can send your kids to "their" schools for free. Not giving them anything requires that you don't take anything as well. Once you sign your name to certain documents, the whole process is undone, and you cannot do it twice.

This is because part of the process involves usually accusing them of fraud and conspiracy. If you make one mistake and sign back into the system, you have automatically retracted all those allegations. You have agreed. You have joined, voluntarily.

This can be done once by every natural born US Citizen. But only once. I have been to their meetings, there are alot of other things. You no longer vote. The gas compay can shut you off when it is twenty below. The state troopers will not help you change a tire. Any court of record's demeanor will be biased against you for the rest of your life, so there is no getting off easy on anything. If you need to beat them you either challenge jurisdiction or you need solid hard facts to prove your case, even as a defendent.

But you are free. You are also free of getting a government check, having A.C.M.E. come out for free to evaluate a problem on your property, free from getting HEAP or PIP, free from social security, free from alot of things you might not be ready to be free from.

And that little grand Real spoke of in filing fees, it is nothing compared to the cost of learning how to do it. In time if nothing else, you have the education of a lawyer almost, and you have to. No member of the bar will represent you so you have to go to court pro se. If you think you are playing with kids there, I got news for ya.

T



slvemike4u -> RE: Americas 2 party dictatorship (2/28/2010 9:45:39 PM)

Guess who else most of us think "is full of shit"?......hint check the mirror termy.



Termyn8or -> RE: Americas 2 party dictatorship (2/28/2010 9:51:24 PM)

Tithe to your Masters slv, tithe and tithe until it hurts. Do what you want.

I do what I want.

T



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