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ORIGINAL: Aynne88

That. . After a fabulous dinner and with a yummy cognac . Nice taste Aileen~

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ORIGINAL: Aneirin


have we lost the ability to make choices in this namby pamby round cornered modern world.

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ORIGINAL: Termyn8or

"Trashing about indignantly without evidence isn't any smarter than a flawed study. "

You talkin to me ?

Who the fuck you think  ? I expressed an OPINION. THIS IS A DISCUSSION FORUM.

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ORIGINAL: Termyn8or

Other day the TV news reported that a smoker scores lower on an IQ test than a non smoker by eight or ten points, I forget. But it was something like that.

I CLAIM DISCRIMINATION. I'd play the race card if I had it. We know it works. Fact is I think these guys are not all that smart. Were all the great innovators in the world non-smokers ? And how did they do on an IQ test ? From what my lone brain cell can retrieve, weren't a few inventors called "slow" in school ?

Take guys like Bell, Edison and Carver, can it be found out whether or not they smoked ? If it is found that they did not, does that mean that smoking detracts from one's IQ, or that higher IQ people simply do not imbibe in smoking ? Or can any conclusion be drawn ?

What if it is found that the great innovators did smoke ? If so do we hem and haw about "margin of error" and "entrant profiling" or just figure they're full of crapola ? Or do we consider these to be exceptions to the rule, out of hand randomness and such ? Can we assume they would've invented more if they kicked the habit, other than the factor of their possibly living longer ?

Or should I take the far side and say that smokers don't care whether they live or die ? And in that case, is that stupidity, or not ? Based on many people's reality, I can fully understand why some don't care. In other words some people are in bad shape.

Another factor is this - A pollster called the other day and I told them politely that I do not participate in polls. I did this most likely with a cigarette in my hand. Could it be that some of us are so smart that we know better than to get into the poll trap ? Because I know this much, if some guy is out on the street giving out IQ tests and the first question is whether or not I smoke I'd wipe my ass with it. And who paid for this stupidity in the first place ? More importantly WHY ?

It's amazing that in a country this broke, people have enough time on their hands to worry about this stupid non-issue. Now who's stupid ?

(I know what your thinking, don't even bother going there LOL)

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• tobacco smoke contains no carcinogens, while diesel fumes contain four known carcinogens;
  
• that lung cancer is rare in rural areas, but common in towns;
  
• that cancers are more prevalent along the routes of motorways;
  
• that the incidence of lung cancer has doubled in non-smokers over past decades;
  
• and that there was less lung cancer when we, as a nation, smoked more.

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ORIGINAL: Termyn8or
Oh, and about the deisel fuel and fumes - known that for years. Deisel mechanics, even the non smokers among them have a higher lung cancer rate than smokers in general. Been that way for a couple of decades.